The applenova folding team! [Archive] - Page 6

turtle

2007-02-05, 20:58

WTF your like the police officer of the AN folding team or what ? :) ...

Naw, I just like the idea of our team making an impact, that's all.

I looked at the list of active folders and it was down to only 20. With the number of people on this board it seems we should have a much higher count is all. I was actually looking at my stats, as I often do since I'm trying to catch back up to 709, and noticed yours didn't show any work even though you just posted saying you were working. I thought you might have the wrong team listed or something like that. Hopefully you weren't offended.

Yeah, this is a pet project of mine. I like what we are helping with, that's all. :)

PKIDelirium

2007-02-08, 14:11

Holy crap my score is 1161 with only 3 work units. :err:

turtle

2007-02-08, 16:47

Holy crap my score is 1161 with only 3 work units. :err:

What systems do you have folding? The Intel Mac system gets me about 587 points per unit per day.

turbulentfurball

2007-02-08, 16:49

I can't cope with folding on my MB for too long. It sounds like a jet engine compared to my Mini (which folds 24/7), so it's not folding any more than a couple of hours a day.

PKIDelirium

2007-02-08, 18:36

What systems do you have folding? The Intel Mac system gets me about 587 points per unit per day.

Just one: This G4 iBook.

SpecMode

2007-02-08, 21:28

Hey, we're about to take 126th place back from LiquidNinjas.com SG-1! WTG team! :D

Oh, and I finally made the team's top 20. W00t!

turtle

2007-02-08, 22:24

I can't cope with folding on my MB for too long. It sounds like a jet engine compared to my Mini (which folds 24/7), so it's not folding any more than a couple of hours a day.

Do you used InCrease? If so, it's easy to have it set to automatically stop folding when you're using certain programs. This means it would be able to shut the fans down (at least make them quiet) while you're working on the things you need to and prevent it from sounding like it's taxiing down a runway.

I do understand though, the noise can get loud sometimes. I normally have enough background noise to keep me from hearing it though.

SpecMode

2007-02-09, 23:06

WR: You and your frackin' GPU WUs. Over 3500 points for TWO work units?! BAH!

Methinks I need an X1900 in my generic tower now... :D

Windowsrookie

2007-02-09, 23:24

I'm having trouble with F@H on one of my iMacs too... Normally I produce around 2,000 points/24 hours. But I'm down to 1,400. :(

Right now I have a 1760 point WU at 60% though. :)

turtle

2007-02-09, 23:34

I'm having trouble with F@H on one of my iMacs too... Normally I produce around 2,000 points/24 hours. But I'm down to 1,400. :(

Right now I have a 1760 point WU at 60% though. :)

I'm visiting my mom right now and have her MBP going with a 1760 point that's at 50% now. Every little bit I can get to help out the better.

SpecMode

2007-02-09, 23:34

Said generic tower seems to have decided to shoot itself in the head. XP is crashing if I look at it funny, and I can't even put it out of its misery by upgrading to Vista; it locks hard right after the GUI loads.

Looks like it's time to put it to use as a Linux folding box, or something...it ought to give me an extra hundred points a day or so.

Windowsrookie

2007-02-09, 23:36

Remember, F@H runs faster on Windows than on linux. (except for the SMP client)

turtle

2007-02-09, 23:38

If you're gonna slick it, then just do a fresh XP load on it. I have done this with two of my machines and now they just fold and are file servers on my network.

SpecMode

2007-02-09, 23:40

Remember, F@H runs faster on Windows than on linux. (except for the SMP client)

Well, yeah...but the entire point is that Windows doesn't seem to want to work anymore, and I can't find my XP install CD (or rather, I'm too lazy to bother looking for it). In the meantime, since I have 2 HDDs in the tower in question, I'll just put some random version of Linux (maybe Ubuntu) on one of 'em for the time being.

It'll at least keep the machine doing something useful until I figure out what I'm going to do with it as a long-term solution.

Windowsrookie

2007-02-09, 23:58

Well, you paid for XP. So it's perfectly legal to torrent it. :)

SpecMode

2007-02-10, 00:16

Suddoo

2007-02-11, 12:07

Well, you paid for XP. So it's perfectly legal to torrent it. :)

Really? :\ hmm i doubt it..

~/Suddoo

p.s. I'm probably being seriously over gullible.. :o

Brad

2007-02-11, 12:55

Well, you paid for XP. So it's perfectly legal to torrent it. :)
Wrong.

When you "download a torrent", you are also automatically sharing the portion that you've downloaded with others. Even if it was okay for you to download a copy of Windows, it's certainly not okay for you to freely distribute it across the Internet.

JK47

2007-02-11, 13:01

Wrong.

When you "download a torrent", you are also automatically sharing the portion that you've downloaded with others. Even if it was okay for you to download a copy of Windows, it's certainly not okay for you to freely distribute it across the Internet.
Aww, it's Windows. Such rules don't apply. ;)

Tomato, Tomato.

turbulentfurball

2007-02-11, 13:11

I've given up on folding on my MacBook. I don't want to fold 24 hours a day since the noise is just too loud. I can't sleep properly due to it. Also, since I wasn't folding very often (no more than about 4 or 5 hours a day) work units were never finished before their deadline. I'm also concerned about the heat being produced. It's just my G4 Mini from here on.

turtle

2007-02-11, 13:11

Debatable, but I'm not going to press the issue. (After all, I have physical CDs of XP Home and XP Pro somewhere, I just don't feel like digging them out just yet.) I'll be downloading the latest Ubuntu ISO tonight, and I'll see about installing it when I get home tomorrow afternoon.

So what have you come up with? Did you end up putting Ubuntu on it?

I've given up on folding on my MacBook. I don't want to fold 24 hours a day since the noise is just too loud. I can't sleep properly due to it. Also, since I wasn't folding very often (no more than about 4 or 5 hours a day) work units were never finished before their deadline. I'm also concerned about the heat being produced. It's just my G4 Mini from here on.

Thanks for supporting any way you can! :)

PKIDelirium

2007-02-16, 11:40

Hot Damn I'm #69 (http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=39160)

Windowsrookie

2007-02-16, 15:32

#11 :)

SpecMode

2007-02-16, 15:37

19 here...on pace to skip ahead to #15 by this time next week. I finally started picking up some of those big, 1700+ pointers a couple days ago. I'm outpacing you now, WR. :D

Windowsrookie

2007-02-16, 15:41

Well, I'll have to do somehting about that. :p

turtle

2007-02-16, 21:39

How annoying. Not even a mention of F@H. C|Net (http://news.com.com/2061-11204_3-6160356.html?part=rss&tag=2547-1_3-0-5&subj=news) let me down this time.

SpecMode

2007-02-20, 22:02

I like those 2605s...I figured they'd help my pace along a bit, sure, but I didn't figure it would be enough to help me bump alc from the team's #1 producer spot for the first time in God knows how long.

Hrm...probably won't last too long, better take a screenshot before reality reasserts itself. :D

alcimedes

2007-02-20, 22:08

Wake me up when you break a million. ;)

turtle

2007-02-20, 22:34

See, this is why I need a Mac Pro after popping some quad cores in it. My wife's MB is working on a 1760 pointer right now. My P4's and G4 just don't come close to the level of production the new Intel Macs do.

Windowsrookie

2007-02-20, 22:50

My AMD PC's CPU fan died last night. It was running F@H and I was gone when it happend. So it was running for who knows how long with a fan turning at 500rpm. I got home and it was nearly vibrating onto the floor......

turtle

2007-02-20, 23:05

So did it die a miserable death or is it still functioning? My system go into thermal overload and shutdown regularly due to dust build up.

Windowsrookie

2007-02-20, 23:06

I'll find out after I buy a new Heatsink/Fan. It didn't shutdown, so I'm guessing it has some damage.

turtle

2007-02-20, 23:16

I'll find out after I buy a new Heatsink/Fan. It didn't shutdown, so I'm guessing it has some damage.

If it didn't fry, make sure your BIOS is set to shut down on thermal overload. I hear the AMD's are pretty durable anyway.

spotcatbug

2007-02-21, 06:59

I didn't figure it would be enough to help me bump alc from the team's #1 producer spot for the first time in God knows how long.
Uh... where do you get to see these producer stats?

Windowsrookie

2007-02-21, 08:14

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/

alcimedes

2007-02-21, 08:18

More specifically

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=39160

torifile

2007-02-21, 08:46

What are you guys using for your Intel machines? The UB InCrease client? I'm going to get my iMac folding.

dmegatool

2007-02-21, 09:15

Yep, InCrease for me...

torifile

2007-02-21, 09:25

I got it working after trying to figure out where it was getting my old info from. I had a really old backup of my emac on an external drive that InCrease insisted it should use. :lol: It's working now. On up the charts I march! :)

torifile

2007-02-25, 11:23

My iMac is machine! The intel macs can churn out quite a bit of work. I almost want to get my macbook folding since they're so good at it. And I can't even notice a slowdown on my machine when it's running.

Windowsrookie

2007-02-25, 11:24

PKIDelirium

2007-02-25, 12:29

Power outage knocked my folding offline from midnight last night to noon today (thanks ice storm, fuck you and your power line-killing tendencies) but is now back in action.

torifile

2007-02-25, 16:13

It's designed that way, so you shouldn't. :p
I know that's it's supposed to work that way, but when I was folding on my eMac last year (and all those Dell POSes that are still going at Dook), it didn't. Things got really slow. I'm glad they're not now. :)

Windowsrookie

2007-03-03, 09:32

w00t! #1. :D

turtle

2007-03-03, 09:59

w00t! #1. :D

That's all a perspective. :p

SpecMode

2007-03-03, 17:18

WR, I think this quote quite nicely sums it up:
Wake me up when you break a million. ;)

Yup. Besides, I'll be taking that spot back in about an hour or so. ;)

Windowsrookie

2007-03-11, 23:31

Yup. Besides, I'll be taking that spot back in about an hour or so. ;)

Still waiting. :p

SpecMode

2007-03-12, 00:52

Actually, I had taken it for about a day or so, then lost it again. Since then, I've been getting WUs that take longer to crunch but give less points than the ones I was getting before. :(

Windowsrookie

2007-03-23, 18:52

Well, the PS3 client is out everyone! Get folding if you have one. If it's putting out enough points I might buy one just to fold. :)

NosferaDrew

2007-03-23, 21:01

Awesome!
There's 62 PS3's at work. Muhuuhuhahahaa! :D

SpecMode

2007-03-23, 21:09

Well, considering the PS3 client was just released today and PS3s are already utterly crushing the rest of the FAH community (over 400 teraflops, or 2/3 of the total project computing power), I'd say they're putting out enough points, WR.

Windowsrookie

2007-03-23, 21:46

Well it doesn't work like that. Yes, they are putting out alot of power, but each unit is only 300ish points, unlike the SMP's 1,000+ points per unit.

turtle

2007-03-23, 21:57

I have to admit, I'm still thinking of getting a PS3 just to Fold and play Blu-Ray movies. I'm just not much of a gamer. :\

NosferaDrew

2007-03-23, 22:09

Very cool interface.
It shows "rough" locations of PS3's on a rotating globe.
(Please excuse the crappy standard def TV. 46" LCD coming soon.)

http://homepage.mac.com/drew1/.Pictures/F@H_PS3.jpg

PKIDelirium

2007-03-24, 10:41

SpecMode

2007-03-24, 18:48

Over 26,000 PS3s are now folding, combining for 639 TFLOPs of processing power (nearly equal to the project's combined total this time yesterday). At this rate, the project will likely exceed a petaflop of active processing capacity by this time tomorrow (by Monday, at the latest).

I figured they'd add a sizable chunk to the pool when the client was released, sure, but I had no idea they'd make this much of a difference.

turtle

2007-03-24, 18:54

For us Wordpress users, there was a F@H stats plugin released today.

http://www.j2fi.net/2007/03/23/foldinghome-wordpress-plugin/

Funny, I saw a SETI@Home plugin yesterday and thought "Gee, someone needs to make one for F@H!"

:lol:

Shit, I'm telepathic.

Have you got your code working? I put this in
<li><h2>Folding@Home Stats</h2>
<ul>
<php get_folding_stats(); ?>
</ul>
</li>
but all I get is the heading with no details. Do I just need to give it time? Or am I missing something?

Man, after seeing the PS3's doing that much I have to admit, I'm more interested in buying one just for the point. :D (Ok, not really.)

PKIDelirium

2007-03-24, 18:57

Need to make sure it's activated on the Plugins page, and then go to Options > Folding Options and put in your F@H username.

turtle

2007-03-24, 19:00

Need to make sure it's activated on the Plugins page, and then go to Options > Folding Options and put in your F@H username.

It is. I on both sides. Do I need to do the "chmod_777" thing? (I'm sure I quoted it wrong.)

PKIDelirium

2007-03-24, 19:05

That's strange...

Don't CHMOD it or it'll break. You're running on a Phpsuexec server, which means everything that says it needs CHMOD works fine without it.

I think this plugin might use PHP's fopen. I seem to remember something about the newer Surpass servers having that module disabled for security.

I'm not 100% sure on that though. Mine showed up normally as soon as I put the code in the sidebar, activated the plugin and set the username and refresh period.

Only thing I can think of would be to set that refresh time to 6 hours. Thats what I put on mine, and it's working.

My exact code in the sidebar:

<li><h2>Folding@Home Statistics</h2>
<ul>
<?php get_folding_stats(); ?>
</ul>
</li>

Edit2: Okay your code is wrong. I forgot about this from earlier, the sample code is missing the ? in the <?php opening tag. Add that in and you're golden.

turtle

2007-03-24, 19:09

Thanks for the help again. I'll give it some time and get back with you via PM or use Programmers Nook if I encounter more issues.

PKIDelirium

2007-03-24, 19:14

Adding reply to make sure this gets seen. I edited my post right as you were replying, and it will most likely fix it.

turtle

2007-03-24, 19:20

You da man!

Zodiac

2007-03-25, 06:33

So do you think the PS3's folding stats indicate that the PS3 will be one hell of a gaming machine once developers better learn to optimize their code for cell? Even with a less powerful GPU then the 360 the massive CPU performance will make up for it?

Not a fanboy for any console, just wondering.

Suddoo

2007-03-25, 07:57

Xbox 360 has the computational power to absolutely smoke the PS3 at F@H. It's called the Xenos, the graphics processor.

F@H already has a client designed to run on ATI Radeon 1900 cards, using the GPU to do all the computation. It wouldn't be too hard to port that to the Xenos, I'd imagine. And the Xenos would EASILY be 2 to 3 times faster than the Cell.
:lol:
The PS3's cell is no match for the 360's processor. Even MS themselves admit that...l
:lol:
It's not the CPU that matters, it's the GPU. Xenos is much, much more powerful than Cell for floating point ops, which is what F@H relies on. Folding on the 360 would be multiple times faster than folding on the PS3, which can't support GPU folding since it has an Nvidia chip. Get your facts straight.
:lol:
The Xbox 360 has a little thing called the Xenos GPU, which is half-a generation beyond the ATI Radeon X1K GPUs. F@H already has a client designed to run on an ATI Radeon X1900 GPU. I don't think it would be too hard to get it to run on the Xenos instead.

The Xenos would easily be 2 to 3 times faster than the Cell.

:lol: Here (http://xbox360.qj.net/A-plea-for-Folding-Home-on-Xbox-360/pg/49/aid/87225) is one helluva fanboy argument on PS3 vs. 360s....

torifile

2007-03-25, 09:43

Personally, I'd never want to use my Xbox to fold. It's too damned loud and hot to keep on unless it's playing a game. I wouldn't trust something that hot to run continuously. Is the PS3 better?

Suddoo

2007-03-25, 11:04

From what I've heard, the PS3 is around 4.5x quicker than the XBox at folding. Also, there are many significant worries about the heating that will be inflicted apon the machine. Normal games often don't use up the complete power of the CPU, but the F@H client is designed to completely saturate the processor. Some think it may burn it out if you leave it on too long, and others believe that it can begin to deform the HD platters by several micrometers - but this can still destroy them - if heated unevenly

*yawn* that was a long post :D

:EDIT: I have been talking about the XBox 360 above!

NosferaDrew

2007-03-25, 12:07

I've been folding continuously since 7PM on Friday (4.5 WU's completed) and my PS3 is cooler than when I play 15 minutes of Motor Storm, so I think the speculation about overheating is BS. It's also practically silent.

alcimedes

2007-03-25, 12:29

Is there a way to put in the team number along with your name?

NosferaDrew

2007-03-25, 12:32

Yes. Options -> Identity -> Join an existing team.

Suddoo

2007-03-25, 13:08

Oops, NosferaDrew should have made clearer I was talking about the XBox 360 ..:D..

alcimedes

2007-03-25, 13:46

Now that is the first reason I've heard to actually buy a PS3.

Holy fucking shit.

Windows 153 161137 1627793
Mac OS X/PowerPC 7 8843 95503
Mac OS X/Intel 9 2932 7524
Linux 43 25321 216208
GPU 44 749 2251
PLAYSTATION®3 734 29977 35463
Total 990 228959 1984742

PS3's are now producing almost 3 times as many work units after a day or two than every single other computer combined.

Windowsrookie

2007-03-25, 14:44

turtle

2007-03-25, 14:54

Yes, but as I explained before, You only get 300ish points per unit on the PS3. On Macs with the SMP client you get 1700ish points per unit. So really, you'd probably be better off spending the $600 on a Mac mini, instead of a PS3.

Unless you care more about helping Stanford, and not the points. :)

Or you want a cheap Blu-Ray player that gives you points too. :D

Plus, I can't see the PS3 being limited to 300 point projects forever. Seems to me they would open it up to larger projects as they prove themselves out.

Windowsrookie

2007-03-25, 14:59

I believe the projects are about the same size as the SMP projects. They are just worth less.

Suddoo

2007-03-25, 15:12

Woah! 4 o'clock: 969 tflops, 9 o'clock 990 tflops... Nearly a freakin PETAFLOP of power! :eek:

TeraHz

2007-03-25, 15:28

So is there an intel build for a single core CPU? I would like to join, but the ppc version never finishes a single unit...

Thanks

Windowsrookie

2007-03-25, 15:43

Nope. Apple only had one single CPU computer for a few months. It was never a priority to make a single core client.

turtle

2007-03-25, 20:30

Where are you all seeing the stats on the PS3 performance? I can't seem to locate it anywhere. :\

Windowsrookie

2007-03-25, 20:46

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=osstats

turtle

2007-03-25, 21:25

Thanks.

turbulentfurball

2007-03-27, 15:03

I've just added a 1.5GHz AMD Sempron to the team. I'm not sure what it's performance will be like, but every little helps!

turtle

2007-03-27, 22:46

Every little bit helps! :)

rasmits

2007-03-28, 00:31

Is it bad to leave the PS3 on all night folding? Seems like it would be unhealthy for the system, that's not really what it was designed for.

turtle

2007-03-28, 00:37

On the FAQ's at the Stanford site they mention leaving a few running 24/7 without issues. Seems like it shouldn't be a problem. Besides, I'm sure you got some warranty plan with it right? Running those programs falls under normal wear and tear. :D

torifile

2007-03-30, 06:35

I'm getting a PS3 today. It will be folding by the end of the day. I wonder how it'll do.

Windowsrookie

2007-03-30, 10:41

You get about 300 points a unit. So about halfish as much as folding on an intel Mac.

alcimedes

2007-03-30, 10:51

Yeah, but doesn't it finish a work unit in under a day? How many point per hour are these things churning out relative to everything else?

turtle

2007-03-30, 11:16

I think from what I read it's going to put out about 900 points per 24 hours as opposed to my wife's CoreDuo that puts out 1760 per 48 (roughly). Seems that the PS3 will be right on track overall with the new Intels.

torifile

2007-03-30, 12:44

IOW, I'll double what I'm doing now. And with my mini also folding as of this morning, I should be putting out about 2000 pts/day. :D

bbassett67

2007-03-30, 15:19

O.K. You guys got me interested. I have a dual core iMac that I can contribute to the cause. What do I have to do to get it to give the best performance. I need step by step instructions since I've never done this before. I a real new Mac user so be gentle.

Windowsrookie

2007-03-30, 15:25

turtle

2007-03-30, 16:05

Download and install this. (http://calxalot.net/InCrease/)

For team type 39160

Then choose a user name.

Does InCrease automatically load SMP on Intels now? I had to install the SMP client from Stanford's site first on my wife's MB, then load InCrease and direct it to control my Cores from Stanford's. It works well for me anyway, plus if my accounts isn't booted first it still runs F@H as soon as the system is booted.

Windowsrookie

2007-03-30, 16:07

It's been automatically loading the SMP client for months now. :p

turtle

2007-03-30, 16:15

It's been automatically loading the SMP client for months now. :p

Boy am I up to date. :D

Windowsrookie

2007-03-30, 22:29

Think your PS3 can keep up with THREE SMP clients?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/440269321_c7b7515caa_o.png

:D

turtle

2007-03-30, 22:31

Think your PS3 can keep up with THREE SMP clients?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/440269321_c7b7515caa_o.png

:D

Why not just get a Quad Mac Pro and put 4 core CPUs in?

Windowsrookie

2007-03-30, 22:37

Cause I needed a laptop. My iMac isn't very portable. :)

And I don't think the MBP's are worth the extra cash.

turtle

2007-03-30, 22:38

Well that makes sense.

bbassett67

2007-03-31, 06:37

Download and install this. (http://calxalot.net/InCrease/)

For team type 39160

Then choose a user name.

Thanks, I'll give it a try this weekend.

torifile

2007-03-31, 08:16

Is there anyway to use Xgrid with folding@home? I've got 2, potentially 3, computers I'd like to put in a mini-cluster. Mostly, I don't want to have manage 3 individual installations and this way I can add computers to the grid and remove them without a whole job being stopped. I know it doesn't offer an increase in output but management of all these individual clients is a pain.

Windowsrookie

2007-03-31, 10:12

I don't really know. But what management? I just install and let it run.

torifile

2007-03-31, 10:29

I don't really know. But what management? I just install and let it run.
You don't check periodically to see how they're doing? Also, if I decide to stop for a while, there's less chance I'll leave one with a deadline hanging. Plus it would be super-cool to say that I've got my own distributed network. :D

Windowsrookie

2007-03-31, 10:51

Nope, F@H has been running on my Grandma's iMac for months now. Hasn't been touched. And Mine I just check once a week or so to make sure it's ruunning.

turtle

2007-03-31, 12:46

I like the concept torifile but I don't know how one would go about it. It could be nice with my PCs to do something like that since I have so many just laying around folding on their own.

torifile

2007-03-31, 13:20

I like the concept torifile but I don't know how one would go about it. It could be nice with my PCs to do something like that since I have so many just laying around folding on their own.
I've made some progress getting the Xgrid controller running on my iMac and my mini seeing it. I haven't been able to figure out how to add a job yet but it can't be too hard. I'll post back with my findings.

torifile

2007-03-31, 14:03

Ok. I've made some headway getting a job added, but I don't know the syntax for FAH's CLI. How would one get a job started using the CLI? If I can get that, then I think it'll work.

turtle

2007-03-31, 15:22

I've never played with Xgrid so I won't be of much help. Though I love the concept. I might just have to get me a few Mini's and play. :D

torifile

2007-03-31, 15:57

What about the CLI syntax for running FAH from the terminal? That would work, too.

bbassett67

2007-03-31, 15:58

I downloaded InCrease and loaded it. Put in the team number and now I see a page with WU Name,Code,points, etc.

Under WU Name I see nothing. Now what?

turtle

2007-03-31, 16:36

I downloaded InCrease and loaded it. Put in the team number and now I see a page with WU Name,Code,points, etc.

Under WU Name I see nothing. Now what?

Give it time. Mine doesn't update every time. You can select the log file from to tool bar it it'll show you more information and even allow you to see what your system is working on.

Elysium

2007-03-31, 18:12

I'm giving folding another go. I had all sort of problems with the graphical client. I would get a protein up to around 75-80% complete, and then have it magically reset back to zero. It was always the same one and well before the deadline.

Giving things a go using InCrease this time. I like it because I can see the time remaining and set it up to use both processors on my machine. I'll get the office one up and running when I stop in tomorrow. :)

Windowsrookie

2007-03-31, 18:19

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/210/441285507_1879c17f00_o.png

:D

turtle

2007-03-31, 19:23

Schnauzer

2007-03-31, 19:28

Think your PS3 can keep up with THREE SMP clients?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/440269321_c7b7515caa_o.png

:D

nice :)

Windowsrookie

2007-03-31, 19:29

Thanks. I'm excited. :D

torifile

2007-04-01, 20:17

Man, check out this team (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=54733)!

For those who have PS3's here at AN, please update the user name so you get the credit. We have our own PS3 user (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=214187) that's climbing up the charts quick.

What happened to SpecMode? He was running strong there for a while. I guess WR scared him off. ;)

My PS3 is folding at a rate of about 900/day. My mini just turned in it's first WU and my iMac continues to crunch away. I should be averaging about 2500-2700 points/day from now on. If I decide to get my Macbook folding, it'll add another couple hundred (since it won't fold while I'm at work on battery power).

That team has like 1000+ active members or something like that. No wonder they are shooting up the charts like that.

SpecMode

2007-04-01, 20:41

Alrighty...I had stopped running the client on both of my machines for the past few weeks (can't remember why, though I'm pretty sure it seemed like a good reason at the time), but I just fired it back up on the iMac.

Wonder if I can find a way to sneak a FAH client onto my AppleTV... :D

Windowsrookie

2007-04-01, 20:44

SpecMode was the closest competition to me. So it was a nice break, and I didn't want to say anything. :p

SpecMode

2007-04-01, 20:52

To be fair, there's no way in hell I'm going to be able to break a 3000 average. No PS3 here, and unless someone persuades Microsoft to push an Xbox 360 version of the client, it looks like my iMac and MBP are going to be shouldering the load here.

turtle

2007-04-01, 22:48

...
That team has like 1000+ active members or something like that. No wonder they are shooting up the charts like that.

If you notice though, they also just started when the PS2 client was made public. It's a new team. We need the people on here with PS3's to lend a hand! That's amazing growth for a startup team.

...
Wonder if I can find a way to sneak a FAH client onto my AppleTV... :D

Good to have you back. :D

I don't think the CPU is geared to handle that much work on the tv. There isn't a heat sink on there really. Maybe it would be fine, but I know I wouldn't want to try it out myself.

tv car-puter, now that I'm interested in.

torifile

2007-04-03, 06:47

My mini's FAH core crashed the other day. It seems to be folding fine, but I wonder what the deal is and if there's anything I can do to fix it. I didn't notice it at the time because the mini is just in a cabinet running my "home theater" but here's the code:

Host Name: zekimac
Date/Time: 2007-04-01 14:39:10.530 -0400
OS Version: 10.4.9 (Build 8P2137)
Report Version: 4

Command: FahCore_a1.exe
Path: ./FahCore_a1.exe
Parent: mpiexec [942]

Version: ??? (???)

PID: 943
Thread: 1

Exception: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (0x0002)
Code[0]: 0x00000001
Code[1]: 0x00000000

Thread 0:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90037a57 mach_wait_until + 7
1 FahCore_a1.exe 0x0024e72f 0x1000 + 2414383
2 FahCore_a1.exe 0x00003a4e 0x1000 + 10830
3 FahCore_a1.exe 0x000026c6 0x1000 + 5830
4 FahCore_a1.exe 0x000025ed 0x1000 + 5613

Thread 1 Crashed:
0 FahCore_a1.exe 0x001d68c8 0x1000 + 1923272

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90037a57 mach_wait_until + 7
1 FahCore_a1.exe 0x0024e72f 0x1000 + 2414383
2 FahCore_a1.exe 0x00008f70 0x1000 + 32624
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024147 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 1 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x001d6750 ecx: 0x00000001 edx: 0x900015d0
edi: 0xa000bda0 esi: 0x00000001 ebp: 0x0180e800 esp: 0xb007f49c
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010202 eip: 0x001d68c8 cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037

Binary Images Description:
0x1000 - 0x302fff FahCore_a1.exe /Users/sbanawan/Library/InCrease/cpu1/FahCore_a1.exe
0x8fe00000 - 0x8fe4afff dyld 46.12 /usr/lib/dyld
0x90000000 - 0x90172fff libSystem.B.dylib /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
0x901c2000 - 0x901c4fff libmathCommon.A.dylib /usr/lib/system/libmathCommon.A.dylib

Any thoughts? Oh, and WR, you better get that other computer soon because ima comin' for your ass. ;)

turtle

2007-04-03, 08:35

I've had several cores crash lately. I don't think it's a big deal, but the loss of point and progress sucks.

Windowsrookie

2007-04-03, 11:25

Any thoughts? Oh, and WR, you better get that other computer soon because ima comin' for your ass. ;)

We'll see about that. :p

macleod

2007-04-03, 13:24

Just started my PS3 folding today. If it doesn't heat my room too much I may start using my Mac Pro and MacBook too! Team number is 39160 right?

Think your PS3 can keep up with THREE SMP clients?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/440269321_c7b7515caa_o.png

:D

How many clients can you run on a Mac Pro and how do you do this?

Windowsrookie

2007-04-03, 13:32

Only run 1 client. It's optimized for 4 cores.

macleod

2007-04-03, 13:34

Ok.

I loaded it on my MacBook and it says it is working but how do I view the progress?

Windowsrookie

2007-04-03, 13:35

Did you use increase? It will tell you the percentage and time remaining.

macleod

2007-04-03, 13:37

I just downloaded it from the main FAH page downloads sections. Is there a better one to use?

Windowsrookie

2007-04-03, 13:39

Delte the client you installed, then install this one.

http://calxalot.net/InCrease/

macleod

2007-04-03, 21:02

PS3 just finished it's first one for me! :D

torifile

2007-04-03, 22:14

PS3 just finished it's first one for me! :D
Nice.

Do you find that your fans run all the time when folding on your PS3? It got pretty toasty in my cabinet so I had to move it out by my t.v. so it wouldn't get so hot. My mini's still in the cabinet but it's getting toasty too. I need to figure out the circulation thing in there.

NosferaDrew

2007-04-03, 22:14

Congrats!
The PS3 is a wonderful folder.

macleod

2007-04-03, 22:19

Can't say for sure because my room is SOOOOO hot I have big fans running 24/7 and have one pointing on my PS3 while it folds. I think they run the whole time though. I am kind of worried about hurting my PS3 while it is in such a hot place so I don't have it folding while I sleep. I just turn it on when i get back from classes and let it go till I fall asleep. When I get home for the summer I will probably let it fold 24/7 along with my Mac Pro, but I just don't want to hurt them with to much heat. Anybody know how much more my energy bill will be if I leave my Mac Pro and my PS3 folding all the time? I ask only because next year I am living in an air conditioned nice apartment (compared to my crappy non air-conditioned on campus housing right now) and I don't want to run the bill up for my roommates.

NosferaDrew

2007-04-04, 01:28

torifile

2007-04-04, 06:41

I'm disappointed in Team AppleNova. How are we only averaging 12,000 points a day?!? Come on people! Go out and buy up some of those PS3 rotting away on craigslist and get them folding! ;)

macleod

2007-04-04, 07:05

It's not the PS3 heating your room - unless you live in a closet!

The PS3 gets hot, but nothing like my dual Xeons (which have been powered down forever).
If I play Motor Storm for a half an hour, it's much hotter than 24/7 folding.

It definitely needs good air circulation, as torifile has found (yeah, fans run all the time and it cannot be in a cabinet), but it's very quiet and it takes care o' business as far as folding is concerned.

First of all, I pretty much do live in a closet. These rooms are tiny and are not air-conditioned. I think they are about 7 by 11.

Second, sorry if what I said came out wrong but want I was trying to explain is that my room is so hot I don't want to hurt my PS3 because the ambient temperature around it is so hot without it folding. I wasn't saying that it heats my room, but rather my room is so hot I am scared it will not cool properly.

SpecMode

2007-04-04, 10:08

I'm disappointed in Team AppleNova. How are we only averaging 12,000 points a day?!? Come on people! Go out and buy up some of those PS3 rotting away on craigslist and get them folding! ;)

Well, I'm down to one machine since my MBP started randomly disconnecting from my wireless network again (and the SMP FAH cores tend to die a painful death every time a network connection is lost, for some strange reason). Until I figure out what's going on, it looks like I'm down to just my iMac again. :(

Windowsrookie

2007-04-04, 12:14

torifile

2007-04-04, 12:43

Or install the SMP client, because you get more points with it.
How do I know which client I've got installed?

Windowsrookie

2007-04-04, 12:45

No, I'm saying install the SMP client on your Macs before buying a PS3.

torifile

2007-04-05, 07:36

http://homepage.mac.com/torifile/.Pictures/folding.jpg

:D

turtle

2007-04-05, 10:34

http://homepage.mac.com/torifile/.Pictures/folding.jpg

:D

Yeah, wait 'til I buy my Octo Mac Pro (next year)! :D

I am going to be getting a MB soon though. I'm not sure if I can wait until June, but I'm trying to hold out so I won't have to buy the new OS. Plus, I'd hate it if they upgrade the hardware with the OS and I'm a generation behind by only a matter of weeks. I need my MB though, just dragging my feet hoping for the expected upgrade at least in OS if not hardware.

Windowsrookie

2007-04-05, 12:39

Enjoy that Torifile, you'll be back down as soon as my MacBook gets here (within the next couple hours). :p

Elysium

2007-04-05, 20:09

Two more work units for the home team. :)

SpecMode

2007-04-05, 22:22

Aww, sonuva...I killed the client last night because it was making Youtube clips jittery, and I forgot to restart it before I went to sleep. :(

macleod

2007-04-10, 17:19

Will I see a noticeable increase in my electric bill if I let my Mac Pro fold 24/7? I am asking because I am going to be sharing an apartment and don't want to run the electrical bill up.

turtle

2007-04-10, 17:40

Will I see a noticeable increase in my electric bill if I let my Mac Pro fold 24/7? I am asking because I am going to be sharing an apartment and don't want to run the electrical bill up.

Not really sure on that one. It doesn't seem like it'd be that much, but I don't know.

alcimedes

2007-04-10, 17:49

http://homepage.mac.com/torifile/.Pictures/folding.jpg

:D

I prefer this view myself. ;)

http://www.alcimedes.com/folding.png

You let me know when you have it down to a year, I might start adding it to some more machines. :p

Windowsrookie

2007-04-11, 16:47

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/253/455819520_4dccaa1293_o.png

:D

SpecMode

2007-04-11, 20:13

Bah, there's no way in heck I'll get back up there. :(

Stupid MBP is *still* randomly disconnecting from my wireless network (and thus killing the FAH client every time); the only two changes I've made to my setup recently were the update to 10.4.9 and the addition of an AppleTV to the network. In fact, it was right around when I got the latter set up when the MBP started giving me headaches... I'm going to try reinstalling 10.4.9, zapping the PRAM, and resetting the PMU when I get home, maybe the shotgun approach will fix the problem.

Any other suggestions?

torifile

2007-04-11, 21:25

I give up. 4 computers folding in the same room is going to kill me when it gets warmer. :( I may try to figure out a way to get my computers folding at night so the heat doesn't bother us too much. WR, you win! And alcimedes, you cheated. :p

Windowsrookie

2007-04-11, 21:33

I actually close the heat vent in my room, and leave the window open most of the time. The P4 machine gets very toasty. I suffer for the team. :)

turtle

2007-04-11, 21:55

...

Any other suggestions?

This doesn't seem like it would be related to the SMP. Have you tried switching to the to the Stanford client instead of InCrease?
I give up. 4 computers folding in the same room is going to kill me when it gets warmer. :( I may try to figure out a way to get my computers folding at night so the heat doesn't bother us too much. WR, you win! And alcimedes, you cheated. :p

Well, you can keep folding until it actually warms up. :D My office gets outrageously hot in the summer. My monitor puts out more heat than the computers though. I do understand the heat issue. At least you can leave the PS3 going.
I actually close the heat vent in my room, and leave the window open most of the time. The P4 machine gets very toasty. I suffer for the team. :)

Suffer, suffer. :D

SpecMode

2007-04-11, 23:25

This doesn't seem like it would be related to the SMP. Have you tried switching to the to the Stanford client instead of InCrease?

Actually, I've never used the InCrease client. The 'client dies on network disconnect' bug was/is a known issue in the Stanford SMP client; I'm not sure if there's been a fix yet (I haven't checked the folding-community forum in quite a while, maybe it's time I visited again).

turtle

2007-04-11, 23:42

Why not give InCrease a try? It should solve your issue.

SpecMode

2007-04-12, 00:35

Well, I just tried the PMU reset and PRAM-zap; I'll startup the client and let the machine crunch for a day or so and see what happens. If it keeps giving me trouble, I'll switch clients (though that won't solve the issue of not being able to send/receive WUs...one problem at a time, I s'pose.)

turtle

2007-04-12, 13:46

Why not put InCrease on and try it? Let us know how it works for you.

SpecMode

2007-04-12, 21:02

Why not give InCrease a try? It should solve your issue.

Why not put InCrease on and try it? Let us know how it works for you.

OK, OK, I get the hint! :p ;)

I'll swap clients when I get home.

turtle

2007-04-12, 23:12

OK, OK, I get the hint! :p ;)

I'll swap clients when I get home.

:D.

macleod

2007-04-12, 23:28

Should I be folding two proteins with my Mac Pro seeing that it has two processors? Basically what is the best way to rip on the Mac Pro?

turtle

2007-04-12, 23:40

InCrease will handle everything for you. As I understand it, you are only folding one protein at a time, but it's broken up between cores.

macleod

2007-04-12, 23:43

Ok. I just didn't think I got many points for it. I was just trying to compare it to my PS3. Is there anyway to check how many points I got from it? I used InCrease.

turtle

2007-04-13, 09:04

Ok. I just didn't think I got many points for it. I was just trying to compare it to my PS3. Is there anyway to check how many points I got from it? I used InCrease.

Two days ago (the 11th) you had a 2300+ point day, so I'm sure you were given credit then. I check my stats here (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=39160). It the easiest list I have found to keep track with a running history. I'm going to change my signature a little to include a link to InCrease and this stat site. You should be getting at least 1760 point every two days with the Mac Pro. I would think it should be faster than 2 days, but I don't have one myself so I can't really say for sure. My wife's 2GHz MB does 1 protein for 1760 points every two day.

macleod

2007-04-13, 09:13

It does go faster, but I paused it for a while. Thanks!

macleod

2007-04-13, 12:19

I am letting my Mac Pro fold some today and looking at my processes using stat pro widget it is kind of odd. The top one is like 80-90, then 60-70, then the other two are like 50-60. It seems like I could be folding a lot faster if they each took 100% or more (I have seen some listed at 230 something when I am playing with video converting and such). Is this normal for it to only be using this much?
Sorry for all the questions and thanks in advance for all of the assistance! :D

Windowsrookie

2007-04-13, 14:46

That's normal.

macleod

2007-04-13, 14:55

Thanks. That seems kind of weird, but I don't know.

turtle

2007-04-13, 18:49

Yeah, it does the same on my wife's MB. I thought it was odd to, but it works. :\

macleod

2007-04-14, 10:48

I know I am asking a lot of questions and I am sorry. But why is InCrease not showing me anything in the points or points/hr field? Does this feature just not work yet?

Windowsrookie

2007-04-14, 10:49

Not every unit has that info available. It's not InCrease's fault.

On another note, I'll be overtaking torifile soon. :)

torifile

2007-04-14, 11:04

Not every unit has that info available. It's not InCrease's fault.

On another note, I'll be overtaking torifile soon. :)
Yeah yeah. When you start paying your own power bill and have a screaming child because it's stifling hot (not to mention a wife who wonders out loud "Why is it so hot in the den?"), lemme know. ;)

macleod

2007-04-14, 22:16

For some reason I can't get my MacBook to fold. I installed InCrease a little while ago and it worked fine, but I stopped using it and uninstalled because I was just going to use my PS3 and Mac Pro to fold. So I re-installed it and now it doesn't work at all. It says it is running but I look at my processes and it isn't even listed while the other processes are like 10% random widgets and such. Any thing I am doing wrong or any suggestions? I really feel like a dumb ass because I know I must have done something; I just can't figure out what. Thanks again for being patient and helpful with your answers to all my questions.

Windowsrookie

2007-04-14, 22:28

Delte inCrease, and delete the library/inCrease folder. I'd also reboot before re-installing inCrease.

Also, I wouldn't keep installing and uninstalling F@H clients without it finishing the unit. Stanford does need the units back! :)

macleod

2007-04-14, 22:44

Done and done. Still not working.

Windowsrookie

2007-04-14, 22:49

Ooops, forgot to mention deleting

Library/Aplication support/inCrease.

macleod

2007-04-14, 22:51

I got that one too because I did a search in spotlight an took everything out from InCrease.

Windowsrookie

2007-04-14, 22:53

If you deleted every inCrease file, and rebooted it should run fine.

You might just need to wait a while. I think my MacBook has done this before, but it started on it's own again.

macleod

2007-04-14, 23:15

Ok. I just figured something was messed up seeing that it wasn't even appearing in the processes. Thanks again Windowsrookie!

macleod

2007-04-15, 10:57

It has been running for 3 hours on my MacBook and still doesn't show anywhere in my processes that it is working. Also my MacBook is running VERY cool so I know it must not be folding. Any suggestions?

Windowsrookie

2007-04-15, 11:11

Deleting everything, then re-installing inCrease should have done it.

Have you tried stopping the unit, then restarting it?

macleod

2007-04-15, 11:14

Yeah I just tried that and it appeared at the top of my processes for all of a second and then disappeared. In the FAHlog tail it says "Entering M.D." and has never moved past that. This is really odd/bothering me that it won't fold. It also says: "running (1 client, 4 cores)" which doesn't make much sense on my CoreDuo MacBook.

turtle

2007-04-15, 11:14

macleod

2007-04-15, 11:17

[16:16:27] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[16:16:27] Entering M.D.
[16:16:44] on if available.
[16:16:44] Entering M.D.

last few lines

turtle

2007-04-15, 11:18

Does it keep repeating that? How about a longer selection.

macleod

2007-04-15, 11:21

-------- FAHlog.txt tail of Unit at ~/Library/InCrease/cpu1 --------
################################################## #############################

Launch directory: /Users/NAME/Library/InCrease/cpu1
Executable: /Users/NAME/Library/InCrease/cpu1/fah5
Arguments: -local -advmethods -forceasm -verbosity 9

Warning:
By using the -forceasm flag, you are overriding
safeguards in the program. If you did not intend to
do this, please restart the program without -forceasm.
If work units are not completing fully (and particularly
if your machine is overclocked), then please discontinue
use of the flag.

[16:16:25] - Ask before connecting: No
[16:16:25] - User name: macleod (Team 39160)
[16:16:25] - User ID:
[16:16:25] - Machine ID: 1
[16:16:25]
[16:16:25] Loaded queue successfully.
[16:16:25]
[16:16:25] - Autosending finished units...
[16:16:25] + Processing work unit
[16:16:25] Trying to send all finished work units
[16:16:25] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[16:16:25] + No unsent completed units remaining.
[16:16:25] - Autosend completed
[16:16:25] Core found.
[16:16:25] Working on Unit 01 [April 15 16:16:25]
[16:16:25] + Working ...
[16:16:25] - Calling './mpiexec -np 4 -host 127.0.0.1 ./FahCore_a1.exe -dir work/ -suffix 01 -checkpoint 15 -forceasm -verbose -lifeline 1419 -version 591'

[16:16:25]
[16:16:25] *------------------------------*
[16:16:25] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[16:16:25] Version 1.73 (November 27, 2006)
[16:16:25]
[16:16:25] Preparing to commence simulation
[16:16:25] - Ensuring status. Please wait.
[16:16:25] y forced on.
[16:16:25] - Not checking prior termination.
[16:16:26] - Expanded 2914457 -> 15182213 (decompressed 520.9 percent)
[16:16:27] - Starting from initial work packet
[16:16:27]
[16:16:27] Project: 2605 (Run 16, Clone 38, Gen 10)
[16:16:27]
[16:16:27] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[16:16:27] Entering M.D.
[16:16:44] on if available.
[16:16:44] Entering M.D.

What is this -forceasm flag thing? Is that my problem? I have no idea what it is.

Windowsrookie

2007-04-15, 11:24

Nope, -forceasm should be there.

It has something to do with SSE.

turtle

2007-04-15, 11:25

It looks like it's restarting a core. Has this machine run one already? If not, then you might want to just remove InCrease and start over. One my wife's MB I had to install the Stanford SMP client first, then install InCrease and use InCrease to control it. This worked really well for me and still does.

I'm not sure why you're system is having a challenge though. :\ Keep at it though and you'll get it going soon.

I'm heading out, I'll check back in a few hours.

macleod

2007-04-15, 11:27

How would I go about installing Stanford SMP and having InCrease control it? I will delete InCrease completely first, but some guidance on that would be great.

macleod

2007-04-15, 17:54

OK I uninstalled InCrease and anything else folding related on my MacBook. I then cleared the Caches, repaired disk permission, and reset the PRAM. For some reason it still will not work. I looked at activity monitor while trying to get it to work and it listed FAHCore_a1.exe 2 times but 0% activity. This is really weird. Any other suggestions would be great. I am thinking about doing a clean install this upcoming weekend when I go home.

macleod

2007-04-15, 21:28

Tried one more thing and still not working. I deleted everything related to InCrease on my account and created a second account. I then loaded it on that account and it still wouldn't show up as working at all in the activity monitor. I guess trying a clean install is the last option that I know how to do. If there are any other things I should try please let me know.

Thanks in advance.

Windowsrookie

2007-04-15, 21:33

Don't delete it next time. ;) :p

macleod

2007-04-15, 21:36

:lol:

Yeah I wish I hadn't but oh well. I have been wanting to do a clean install for a while now. I used shapeshifter for about a month and then decide it was a pain in the ass. So ever since that I have wanted to do a clean install to really get rid of everything and start fresh. I guess I have a project for this upcoming weekend. :D

macleod

2007-04-16, 17:26

I got InCrease to work on my MacBook! I had to do a clean install, but it was worth it.

turtle

2007-04-17, 15:37

Glad it worked for ya! I know it's been longer than a few hours, but I was out of state and got home late yesterday and just now got back to the forums. :)

Windowsrookie

2007-04-17, 15:39

And I'm now #7 :D

Windowsrookie

2007-04-18, 15:01

What the hell kratara? You haven't uploaded anything in at least a week, yet you'e #1?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/189/464351085_9bb11b2f51_o.png

turtle

2007-04-18, 15:24

I guess there was some catching up to do. :D

Windowsrookie

2007-04-18, 15:31

That was weird, back to normal now though.

Windowsrookie

2007-04-22, 13:16

#6 now, You're next Turtle. :D

turtle

2007-04-22, 13:54

#6 now, You're next Turtle. :D

Oh yeah, I bet you can't beat me! :p

Elysium

2007-04-25, 20:00

So I come home from work to this:

[00:32:19] + Downloading new core: FahCore_a1.exe
[00:32:19] Downloading core (/~pande/OSX/PowerPC//Core_a1.fah from www.stanford.edu)
[00:32:19] - Error: HTTP GET returned error code 404
[00:32:19] + Error: Could not download core
[00:32:19] + Core download error (#14), waiting before retry...

Seems to be server issues/updates and a network outage at Stanford are the culprits. Hopefully, they can get things fixed and I don't lose the WU that is currently on idle at 100%.

Windowsrookie

2007-04-25, 20:16

4/13/2007 Network problems at Stanford
We are experiencing problems with the Stanford network. Everything is working, just very slowly, causing retries in the client. Stanford IT is looking into this.

That's the last update....

Elysium

2007-04-25, 20:47

That's the last update....

Really? I'm seeing these:

April 26, 2007 (UTC) Stanford IT finds network problem (http://forum.folding-community.org/ftopic19500.html)
April, 26, 2007 (UTC) Collection server offline (http://forum.folding-community.org/ftopic19499.html)

Windowsrookie

2007-04-25, 20:50

Ahh, they just haven't updated the main site.

turtle

2007-04-25, 22:30

Hey WR, you're gonna gain a little more ground of the next few days. I've had to take two of my PCs offline while rearranging my network at home.

Windowsrookie

2007-04-25, 22:32

Early Christmas present? :)

turtle

2007-04-25, 22:40

Not really. We move my daughter into our office and our office into our daughters room. This place isn't actually wired for my network and I'm having to snake cables everywhere. WiFi doesn't cut it for regular data usage so I've got to run the cables and reconfigure.

NosferaDrew

2007-04-26, 19:59

There are a couple of updates for you PS3 folders - one PS3 update and a bump for the PS3 F@h client to version 1.1.
Once Folding@home version 1.1 is made available this Thursday, users will be able to complete their work units in an even shorter amount of time due to the update's improved processing speeds. The update will also allow for "increased visibility of user location on the globe" (based on IP address), as well as the added ability of creating longer names for donors and user teams.

FFL

2007-04-28, 22:21

:grumble:
Damn Stanford servers......

[03:17:53] Connecting to http://assign.stanford.edu:8080/
[03:17:53] Posted data.
[03:17:53] Initial: 0000; - Successful: assigned to (0.0.0.0).
[03:17:53] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[03:17:53] Work Unit has an invalid address.
[03:17:53] Error: Attempt #6 to get work failed, and no other work to do.

PKIDelirium

2007-05-14, 16:57

http://videogames.yahoo.com/ongoingfeature?eid=514753&page=0

While gamers endlessly bicker about which system will come out on top of the console war, a group of inventive scientists at Stanford University are concerned with a very different kind of battle - the fight against incurable diseases.

The university's Folding@home project focuses on protein folding, a chemical process that may hold the keys to unlocking the mysteries of diseases like Alzheimer's, Cystic Fibrosis, Hodgkin's and various other cancers. The team has created a program that simulates the nearly infinite number of ways proteins can fold, a system that requires a massive amount of computational power.

Instead of taxing resources by building a battalion of supercomputers to crunch the data, the Folding@home team decided to tap into the vast quantity of lonely home computers in the wild. And it worked -- since the program's inception in October of 2000, hundreds of thousands of ordinary folks have lent their computers' unused processing power to the project, effectively creating one of the largest distributed computing networks in the world.

But once kindhearted PS3 owners got involved, the numbers went from solid to staggering.

Folding@home was tucked into a recent PS3 firmware update as a small icon found in the Network section of the console's front end, allowing users to willingly join the program in a few quick clicks. It has since blossomed, with over 250,000 registered PS3 owners donating enormous amounts of spare power in the name of philanthropic science.

"The PS3 turnout has been amazing, greatly exceeding our expectations and allowing us to push our work dramatically forward," said Folding@home lead Vijay Pande.

Windowsrookie

2007-05-14, 17:36

Yeah, and? The PS3 client has been out for a while. :p

spikeh

2007-05-14, 18:14

PS3 is going to save lives.

Say it, WR.

Windowsrookie

2007-05-14, 19:12

By consuming huge amounts of fossil fuels. :p

SpecMode

2007-05-14, 22:21

By consuming huge amounts of fossil fuels. :p

:confused:

Seeing as you remain at the top of Team AppleNova's 'top producers' list by a wide margin, I fail to see why you of all people would be making such a big deal of this. Am I missing the point here?

Windowsrookie

2007-05-14, 22:26

Yes, it's well known I don't like PS3s. :)

turtle

2007-05-14, 22:35

I have really lost my steam after moving my office around. My MB hasn't completed one WU since. I'm not sure why either. I know one was corrupt and I had to reinstall the client to get it going again. :no:

More Intel Macs are one the way here though...

FFL

2007-06-12, 18:29

muaaa haaaa haaa
:cancer:

Windowsrookie

2007-06-12, 18:41

My point production will be lower now. MacBook is gone. :(

zsummers

2007-06-12, 19:03

A suggestion for whomever of you know what's going on with this thread: can we get a sticky or something similar? I'd love to figure out a.) how to get in on the folding and b.) where exactly you all are doing it, etc. I'm really pretty clueless, but I know for a fact that I'm bleeding cycles all over the place (iMac in back of apartment just sits, for the most part), and MBP isn't doing all it can. But figuring out where in this 50 page behemoth to start is pretty intimidating.

Windowsrookie

2007-06-12, 19:05

Donload this. http://calxalot.net/InCrease/

Chose a username

Type "39160" for team #.

FFL

2007-06-12, 19:16

I'm making a sticky now.

EDIT: DONE!

http://forums.applenova.com/showthread.php?t=24213

zsummers

2007-06-12, 19:22

Yowsers. Thanks for such a quick response.

kieran

2007-06-12, 19:27

I'm still trying to figure out where my points are coming from. I know it's not much, but I have installed the client on a couple of machines that I have used during my past two co-ops and I guess they are still going on those?

Anyways, I'll start again when I start my next co-op in the fall, but I'm glad to contribute in even the smallest increments.

turtle

2007-06-12, 23:07

I just wish I could get my MB folding again. My wife has been needing it for *real* stuff so I haven't been able to put it back on yet. :( My PCs are just not putting out many points. :\ I took it off the Mini because this 1.25 G4 isn't doing anything.

Someday I'll have more Intel Macs and maybe even a PS3. :D

Elysium

2007-06-12, 23:59

I took mine off after my power bill went up 20%. :\

turtle

2007-06-13, 00:13

I took mine off after my power bill went up 20%. :\

I don't want to think about how much power I'm consuming with my machines folding 24/7. My 2 PC laptops are likely not drawing that much, it's the three desktops that I'm more thinking of. Maybe I'll shut them down for a week and see if there is a difference for my knowledge's sake. I still don't plan to stop folding, it's too good of a cause.

zsummers

2007-06-17, 23:39

Hmmm. So, just a basic question. I've been running the clients non-stop for about five days. Though I put my MBP to sleep for a few hours the last two nights, my iMac has been running straight on. Should I really be running it that consistently (that is, not sleeping the machines). Is there any harm (just wearing the damn machine out, for one) that can come of maxing the processors all the time? My MBP is certainly much, much hotter for it. And both machines have their fans running 24/7.

Also, I seem to have lost a fold job when my wireless went out for a bit. Is that usual? Do I have to stay connected or risk losing a fold if I don't pause?

Windowsrookie

2007-06-18, 10:07

Your machines will be fine. Yes, you should stay connected. And putting your machines to sleep might prevent you from getting the points. The WU has to be finished within a certain time.

zsummers

2007-06-18, 10:13

Thanks, WR. And thanks for the quick response.

turbulentfurball

2007-06-30, 14:42

Can a Mac Mini Core Solo fold at all? The SMP client obviously won't work, and the other Mac OS client appears to be PPC only.

709

2007-06-30, 15:01

InCrease (http://calxalot.net/InCrease/) is a Universal Binary (and it's the preferred folding app for a Mac, if I'm not mistaken).

turbulentfurball

2007-06-30, 15:26

I thought InCrease still required the official F@H client?

Windowsrookie

2007-07-01, 22:19

Can a Mac Mini Core Solo fold at all? The SMP client obviously won't work, and the other Mac OS client appears to be PPC only.

No. Apple only made one single core Intel Mac for a few months. They never plan on making a single core version of F@H.

zsummers

2007-07-02, 22:39

Hmm. I have been jammed up for about 24 hours now. I'm stuck about 17% of the way through a fold. I'm on an MBP, Intel Core2Duo--my iMac is folding along just fine. I'm guessing it's related to the fact that I zapped my PRAM to try to get my AirPort connection up and running again.

It simply shows, in status, that it is stopped, but when I press start it just reverts immediately to stop. I've done all of the updates from preferences, and I've even reinstalled InCrease. Thoughts? Let me know what info (the FAHlog or anything) would be useful.

Windowsrookie

2007-07-10, 15:14

Ok, two of my systems that were down are back up. I should slowly climb back up in the ranks. :D

PB PM

2007-07-10, 17:08

Just started folding today on my MBP. Might Setup my G4 to do it, but I'm not a home most of the time so its shut off (saves a lot of power).

On thing is for sure, turns the MBP into a real cookbook... not something to run on a hot day like today (no AC in my place).

zsummers

2007-07-10, 18:24

I still can't seem to get my machine folding (see a few posts above). And my G5 is now off-line because of reformatting in preparation for sale. Any help out there?

FFL

2007-07-10, 23:56

This has worked for me a few times when InCrease seemed to get jammed up:

Go to Tools menu in InCrease and Uninstall InCrease.

Reboot.

Launch InCrease, go to Tools menu, and Install InCrease.

If all else fails, repeat the above and delete the InCrease folder in your user Library folder in between uninstalling and rebooting. If you have to do this, you'll have to start over with a new WU.

Elysium

2007-07-11, 01:32

I still can't seem to get my machine folding (see a few posts above). And my G5 is now off-line because of reformatting in preparation for sale. Any help out there?

I'll trade you a Yikes set-up that folds a work unit every 49 days. :p

Come on. You know you want to. Just think of the children.

PB PM

2007-07-11, 14:25

Yikes about that Yikes. I just added my G4, and its hardly doing anything (around a point an hour), but I guess every little bit helps.

turtle

2007-08-12, 10:12

Boo, WR finally passed me. Seems I'll have to finally buy more Intel Macs to be able to keep up. I had to take one of my systems off line from Folding because they don't have a F@H client for SME Server (at least not to my knowledge).

I also haven't been able to get it running on my wife's MB because all the encoding it's been doing and will be doing. Oh well, FFL is next to finally pass me. :( It's all for a good cause though.

How about some of you other people putting your Intel Macs or PS3s to work and serve a good cause in your CPU's off time?