The applenova folding team! [Archive] - Page 7

jcoley2

2007-12-07, 14:37

I decided to jump on the bandwagon today, but want to make sure I did this right. I downloaded the following:

Quad (G5) Mac OS X Graphical client (PPC) v 5.2
MBP (Intel) Mac OS X (Intel) SMP client Installer v 6.0 beta

My questions are as follow:

1. On Quad, dragged DMG file to Applications and launched. Put in an identity (jcoley2) and team number (39160). Can see now two Folding@home icons in my doc--is that correct? See applications sucking down 2 of the 4 CPUs. Did I do it correctly?

2. On MBP it automatically installed in Applications. I launched it and it shows some demo and seems to be running some type of viewer *folding@home viewer--"THis is just a demo - not the protein you're running right now." But the Preference option is grayed out and I never entered my Identity nor team number. What should I do?

Thanks for answering the dumb questions.

FFL

2007-12-07, 14:40

You need to install and configure Increase, not F@H.

jcoley2

2007-12-07, 14:43

You need to install and configure Increase, not F@H.

Ok, I am totally lost now. I can see Quad is working on a Protein called p3405_dpdp-ii and is 3.00% down. Is Quad ok? Is Increase need to be downloaded on just MBP?

Also, looking for link please.

jcoley2

2007-12-07, 14:59

1. On Quad, dragged DMG file to Applications and launched. Put in an identity (jcoley2) and team number (39160). Can see now two Folding@home icons in my doc--is that correct? See applications sucking down 2 of the 4 CPUs. Did I do it correctly?

I figured out what I did wrong with Quad. I dragged the original download to my desktop and then the second time to Applications folder (dope!) So I was running two programs simultaneously so I ejected desktop version. Now in Activity Monitor I see just one application running but what is odd is that I read this program will access more than one CPU with multi CPU systems yet mine seems to run threads only on one CPU. A

Any idea what I might be doing wrong?

alcimedes

2007-12-07, 15:23

jcoley2

2007-12-07, 15:23

2. On MBP it automatically installed in Applications. I launched it and it shows some demo and seems to be running some type of viewer *folding@home viewer--"THis is just a demo - not the protein you're running right now." But the Preference option is grayed out and I never entered my Identity nor team number. What should I do?

I see on Intel based MBP you need to configure from System Preferences which I did but it still seems to be just running the demo.

FFL

2007-12-07, 15:47

Ok, I am totally lost now. I can see Quad is working on a Protein called p3405_dpdp-ii and is 3.00% down. Is Quad ok? Is Increase need to be downloaded on just MBP?

Also, looking for link please.

http://forums.applenova.com/showpost.php?p=471610&postcount=6

jcoley2

2007-12-07, 15:53

Do a search for an item called Increase.app

You should be able to find it at the MacOSX folding team page. (no link handy)

That application will let you run 4 processes of the F@H application fairly easily, but you'll need to change the team number to 39160 instead of the default 1910 or whatever it is.
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Thank you, found the link--here it is for any one else in the future:

http://calxalot.net/InCrease/

What is really weird is on MBP (duo) I see four fahcore_a1.exe running sucking down about 200% of the cpu cycles even though in Preferences under local group I select "Use of CPU count of" and option: Actual(2).

On Quad I selected Actual(4) yet there is only one fahcore_a1.exe running and using 100% of one of the cpu's. Not sure why it does not want to access all 4 CPUs.

But again, thanks for helping me set this up.

herodian

2007-12-08, 10:46

sorry, but without reading 51 pages.... is there a PS3 option? i'd gladly offer that up as i only use it for games once every 2 weeks or so.

i could maybe stretch to putting 2 Intel CD M.Mini's up for UK day times..

turtle

2007-12-08, 11:06

There is an option for PS3 in fact. I think it's found through the PS3's menu. All you'd need to do is enter your user name and our team number. I don't have a PS3 so I can't say for sure though.

NosferaDrew

2007-12-08, 12:26

There is an option for PS3 in fact. I think it's found through the PS3's menu. All you'd need to do is enter your user name and our team number. I don't have a PS3 so I can't say for sure though.
Folding@Home can be found under Network in the XMB. The PS3 kicks ass as a folding machine.

jcoley2

2007-12-08, 16:50

sorry, but without reading 51 pages.... is there a PS3 option? i'd gladly offer that up as i only use it for games once every 2 weeks or so.

I just downloaded to PS3 software--very easy. Go to (I think) console and navigate to the Folding option. I had to click it, download it, run it, update it (weird, you think they would have given you the updated version the first time) , then run it again.

2 Things to note:

1. Make sure you are upgraded on PS3 to 1.6 version.
2. Don't forget to input your username and team name

The PS3 flies on this. . .

jcoley2

2007-12-08, 18:30

How come when I go here I do not see my user name:

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=39160

Username is jcoley2

?

FFL

2007-12-08, 18:36

Have you completed any work units yet?

709

2007-12-08, 18:38

It takes a couple/few days for you to get listed. Don't worry. :)

Thanks for joining, though. :)

We're the few, proud and not so many and all that shit...but it really is a good cause. :) Some of us have been doing it for a while, in fact, alcimedes and I were on the MacOSX Team for a bit. But it's nice to see AN's name in the top 200. ;)

Jesus...too much yellow, right? :p :( :eek: :err: :D

Jesus_v2: I am not Suflay247 or whatever that chick's name is that uses all the smilies. And that can't spell soufflé.

jcoley2

2007-12-08, 18:58

Have you completed any work units yet?

Yes Quad completed one 220 points
MBP completed one 1440 points
PS3 (set up today) not yet but it is cranking--says one will be done tonight

BTW--I noticed that InCrease automatically got both the Duo CPUs working (actually I see four FahCore_a1.exe running) and it seems to be very fast on the MBP.

But. . . the Quad only runs one FahCore_a1.exe. I was reading some other threads and it says to download the program into different directories, so I set up a Folding Folder, then four sub folders named Folding 1, 2, 3 and 4 and then copied the folding@home.app into each sub folder and started them up. In the console I see four running but when I was looking at InCrease, it looks like it was stalled.

Is there some way to utilize all four CPUs on the Quad or is this a limitation on the software with G5 CPUs?

alcimedes

2007-12-09, 01:01

I think they're either really large/slow work units getting sent out, or the updates are slow.

I added 7 2.4+ Ghz P4's on Wed. or so and they still haven't shown up in my stats.

turtle

2007-12-09, 07:30

Eugene and jcoley2 are both on the board now. Thanks for stepping up and helping guys! :)

You can check your status via the link in my sig or here (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=39160) for a fancier version.

jcoley2

2007-12-09, 08:18

I added 7 2.4+ Ghz P4's on Wed. or so and they still haven't shown up in my stats.

How did you do that? Did you go around your office and run them at night on unwilling co-workers?:eek:

Eugene and jcoley2 are both on the board now. Thanks for stepping up and helping guys! :)

You can check your status via the link in my sig or here (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=39160) for a fancier version.

Thanks--it does not appear to show all the units completed but at least I am on the board. I am going to add my kids iMac Duo today--I'll never catch you guys but I can climb up the boards some. (I did not realize that when I first read this thread on Friday it was started in 2005, not 2007!!:lol: What a dope I am!)

Any idea on how to optimize my Quad?

turtle

2007-12-09, 08:21

I'm not sure personally. I've always used InCrease on all my Macs and never had any issues with underutilization. Maybe alc or 709 know a trick. (I think 709's running a dual CPU system though.)

jcoley2

2007-12-09, 08:30

I'm not sure personally. I've always used InCrease on all my Macs and never had any issues with underutilization. Maybe alc or 709 know a trick. (I think 709's running a dual CPU system though.)

This is were I get a little confused (from the website) and I am not too technical:

Can I run both the GUI version and Console version at the same time? What happens if I run two console versions?

Yes, but ONLY if you multiple processors/cores, and install in different directories. Also, DO NOT just copy the files from one directory to each other. This will cause the clients to get confused.
You won't get credit for the work you do.
It will be no use for science.
Instead, install a client once into each directory. If you have already copied the program into multiple directories and are trying to run it, find the client.cfg file and delete it. The next time the FAH client starts, it will create a new client.cfg file and get a new ID from the project servers. The Windows GUI CPU client Machine ID must be 1, so all other clients must use 2, 3, 4, etc.

So it looks like I screwed up just coping the same DMG file over to each directory--need to download it four times? Also I did not delete the client.cfg file, but when I search my HD I cannot find this file. Very confusing.

alcimedes

2007-12-09, 12:52

I would delete everything you installed on the quad, then just install Increase and tell it you have four CPU's.

PKIDelirium

2007-12-09, 13:00

I seem to be doing pretty well considering I'm only running an iBook G4.

jcoley2

2007-12-09, 13:47

I would delete everything you installed on the quad, then just install Increase and tell it you have four CPU's.

Just did that and tried again. IN preferences I have selected 4 CPUs (Actual) but it still just runs one at about 100%. Frustrating. . . .

HHogan

2007-12-19, 23:42

Forgot all about F@H, been insanely busy.

I guess I'll return to give you guys a boost once more.

turtle

2007-12-20, 00:30

Thanks! :)

HHogan

2007-12-20, 00:45

Got 2 PS3s going, one quad Mac Pro, my 2.5GHz G5, two Macbook Pros plus 2 P4 PCs.

Should do a decent job. I don't want to break out the power suckers for this though.

turtle

2007-12-20, 02:25

Wow, I'd say that's going to push us up a few notches!

jcoley2

2007-12-20, 08:10

Well, I am going to try again and reinstall the software on my G5 Quad to try and get it to run on more than one CPU. (I have already tried twice.)

As I said before, it seems to only access one CPU even though InCrease I have it set to four.

Just want to be sure. I have download InCrease in

~/Library/Folding@Home

Do I also have to download the separate Folding@home program or does it automatically come with InCrease?

(I did both and I think this might be where the conflict is coming from.)

BTW--I have also been moving up the list but it seems I am having no impact on the team--was #153 when I started 1.5 weeks ago and we are still #153.

Have a Quad, iMac Duo, MBP Duo and PS3 running.

Eugene

2007-12-20, 11:50

jcoley2, I tested the console version on a quad G5 and it seems to work fine, starting 4 crunchers. I just needed to move mpiexec into ~/Library/Folding@Home.

FFL

2007-12-20, 13:08

Do I also have to download the separate Folding@home program or does it automatically come with InCrease?

Download Increase and put it in Applications.

Open Increase.

Under Tools menu, run Uninstall Increase Except for Units (should help clean up anything already installed that's not properly configured).

Restart computer.

Open Increase.

In Tools menu, run Download fah6 client.

Restart computer and try Increase again. You may have to run the Create Local Group command under the Groups menu.

If that doesn't work - delete Increase folder from your user Library folder, restart, and repeat all the above. Experiment with various commands under the Groups menu.

Increase can really be voodoo on a Quad or Octo - just keep trying, and let us know how it goes.

NosferaDrew

2007-12-20, 16:58

Got 2 PS3s going, one quad Mac Pro, my 2.5GHz G5, two Macbook Pros plus 2 P4 PCs.

Have a Quad, iMac Duo, MBP Duo and PS3 running.
There's an update to the PS3 client that came out yesterday, so update your machines!
New in this update is the ability to play music from the hard drive while folding and the option to turn off the PS3 after a work unit completes or a set amount of time.

HHogan

2007-12-20, 17:47

Yeah, it prompted me after I installed it. Thanks for the heads up though.

It was interesting to see that I was still in the top 10 despite not having the app open for over a year. Time to get cracking once more.

alcimedes

2007-12-20, 19:05

Grr, my new machines aren't doing squat. I'll have to mess with them later.

turtle

2007-12-20, 22:59

I'm actually having a hard time getting it running on my wife's MB again. I just haven't had the time to make it work yet. I'll get to it soon though. My PCs aren't doing squat anymore. It's like they lost their ability to fold or something.

HHogan

2007-12-24, 10:47

Those PS3s are pretty money at folding, eh?

jcoley2

2007-12-24, 10:50

Ok, finally got Quad G5 to work. Noticed that it kept accessing ~/library/folding@home folder rather than ~/library/InCrease folder. Also, had to load local units to get all four CPUs running.

NosferaDrew

2007-12-24, 16:28

Those PS3s are pretty money at folding, eh?
I'm averaging 1500-1800 points per day and the only using two PS3's.
Best bang for your buck.

Eugene

2007-12-24, 16:37

I'm averaging 1500-1800 points per day and the only using two PS3's.
Best bang for your buck.
If you ignore the fact that the PS3, CPU and GPU clients run different projects, the best bang for the buck is actually the Radeon X1950 GPU (it should be the Radeon HD3850 once it's supported). This is especially true when you take into account that GPU, PS3 and CPU scores are weighted differently.

NosferaDrew

2007-12-24, 16:44

Yeah, and how much does it cost to build a machine around the Radeon X1950 GPU?

$399 for a PS3. To me that's a better value.

Eugene

2007-12-24, 17:43

Yeah, and how much does it cost to build a machine around the Radeon X1950 GPU?

$399 for a PS3. To me that's a better value.
You need to remember that retail PC component prices are far cheaper than Apple retail...or even Dell direct.

$50 case/psu
$25 optical drive
$75 motherboard
$100 Radeon X1950Pro
$100 Radeon X1950Pro
$40 80GB HDD
$35 2GB DDR2-667
$55 Athlon X2 3800+

$480 total for a dual GPU set-up. Subtract $20 to go with a single-core Sempron. Subtract $100 to go with a single Radeon. Subtract $35 to go with a single PCIe 16x slot motherboard. Subtract $5 to go with a 40 GB HDD. Subtract $20 to go with a budget case. Subtract $17 to go with a single 1GB stick of memory.

$283 total.

Edit: Also keep in mind that something like a Radeon HD3800 series has 320 general purpose stream processors (combined to function as 64 shaders)...the Cell has only 8 SPEs. If the scores were weighted on FLOPS alone, the GPUs would annihilate the traditional CPUs and PS3.

NosferaDrew

2007-12-26, 00:12

Then build it ,Eugene and let's see how well it really does.
The problem with GPU folding is that it gets very limited work units to work on. PS3 less limited and the CPU even less limited.

You also need to add into your cost of your folding machine the price of a good power supply.
There is no way that you are going to get a Case/PSU for $50 that can stand up to 24/7 folding.
Plus cables, plus tax, plus OS - unless you want to run Linux (that's a hobby in itself in configuring it).

I still maintain that for $399 you have a plug and play folder that is superior to something that you can build.
And by build, I mean putting it together, all the time maintaining it from malware, all the heat/noise and the fact that when you buy a PS3 you not only get a fantastic folding machine, but you have one of the best Blu-ray players and a fantastic gaming machine.

Why spend $283+ when for $399 you have something that is so much better.

Eugene

2007-12-26, 10:55

Then build it ,Eugene and let's see how well it really does.
The problem with GPU folding is that it gets very limited work units to work on. PS3 less limited and the CPU even less limited.
I'm planning on building a grown-up version of it. It depends on the Mac Pro announcement next month.

You also need to add into your cost of your folding machine the price of a good power supply.
There is no way that you are going to get a Case/PSU for $50 that can stand up to 24/7 folding.
Plus cables, plus tax, plus OS - unless you want to run Linux (that's a hobby in itself in configuring it).
Any of the >=350W Rosewill (NewEgg house brand) PSUs should be fine. $20 for the PSU leaves, $30 for a case. If you won't take my word for it, take Ars Technica's (http://arstechnica.com/guides/buyer/guide-200711.ars/2).

Inwin C589T (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811108019) @ NewEgg.

Cables? They come with the motherboard.
Tax? What's tax on $283? What about $399?
OS I'll go ahead and throw in XP Home for $80, but it's not like Ubuntu is hard to configure...

I still maintain that for $399 you have a plug and play folder that is superior to something that you can build.
It's only superior if you don't think you can assemble your own PC...it's hard, like LEGOs.

And by build, I mean putting it together, all the time maintaining it from malware, all the heat/noise and the fact that when you buy a PS3 you not only get a fantastic folding machine, but you have one of the best Blu-ray players and a fantastic gaming machine.
Run Firefox. Don't download random torrents. A folding PC can be a wired/wireless router, a file server, a personal web server, a gaming PC, a web terminal...anything.

Why spend $283+ when for $399 you have something that is so much better.
LOL, why are you getting so defensive?

Eugene

2007-12-26, 17:45

Grr, my new machines aren't doing squat. I'll have to mess with them later.
Are you using the non-SMP or GUI clients? Your output seems really low for the number of CPUs you have running, especially when compared to the 2/3/4 spots.

A few numbers for reference:
Currently my 1.66GHz Core Duo spits out p2653s at 30m per 1%.
My Athlon X2 3800+ @2.5GHz does p2653s at about the same pace.
I also have one 800MHz PowerBook G4 doing p3040s at 90m per 1%...

EDIT: Wow, G4s don't get any love as far as points go. 186 points for a WU that took 4-5 days to complete...

HHogan

2007-12-26, 20:28

Holy poop @ this week's #s so far.

alcimedes

2007-12-26, 22:16

I think they aren't turning them in for whatever reason. I never saw any bump for the added boxes. I'll have to take a look at them when I get back to the states.

Eugene

2007-12-27, 00:04

You also need to add into your cost of your folding machine the price of a good power supply.
There is no way that you are going to get a Case/PSU for $50 that can stand up to 24/7 folding.
Plus cables, plus tax, plus OS - unless you want to run Linux (that's a hobby in itself in configuring it).
As it happens, I went to Fry's this evening on a hunch and snapped up an Antec NSK4480 w/380W Earthwatts PSU for $48.70 after tax. Minus $30 rebate = $18.70. :D

http://www.netaffilia.com/ad/electronics/frys/i/2007/12/25/28968.html

Seriously, I bet I could build a decent comp more powerful than the top of the line iMac for $100 after mail-in-rebates if I cherry pick my way through a couple months of Fry's circular deals. :lol:

HHogan

2008-01-15, 17:40

I'm having a lot of problems with my Mac Pro running F@H

It went a whole week last week stuck at 5%, I didn't even realize until the week was over.

I removed the entire library folder and re-installed F@H and it did one full WU, but now it's stuck at 13% with the second.

I've installed the SMP client from the F@H site and using InCrease to check the status.

Any ideas?

Eugene

2008-01-15, 19:51

Any ideas?
Maybe there's some ghosted instances of the fah core and mpiexec running on your machine? Not sure what else might be causing hiccups. Get it fixed soon though, because I've just activated my 3.4 GHz quad. :D

HHogan

2008-01-15, 22:39

Nope, I just removed it yet again but this time it "froze" up on the first WU downloaded.

jcoley2

2008-01-21, 08:45

OK Eugene, how did you do it????

I started like two weeks before you and run a iMac, MBP, Quad and PS3 at home and climb the AN league tables each day and week, only to have you catch me today!!!!

Seriously, what are you running to get all those points?

BTW--I will like a Salmon swimming up stream. When I joined the AN team, it was #153. Now even with my help we have fallen to #155.

turtle

2008-01-21, 13:08

I was wondering the same thing. That's one beast it would seem!

Eugene

2008-01-21, 13:32

My folding stats page says I've been running 6 machines in the past week, but it's really only 4:

2.16GHz iMac
1.66GHz mini
Athlon X2 3800+ (2GHz stock)@2.5GHz
Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.4GHz stock)@3.4GHz ...I believe I mentioned "The Beast" was going live last week. :D

I run two SMP clients on the quad because Windows handles MPI really badly. The new quad gets about 4000 PPD. The Athlon X2 used to be a lot slower, but I switched it over to Ubuntu once I got my new PC. The 5th client was a PowerBook G4 that isn't worth wasting energy on.

turtle

2008-01-21, 13:46

So it's the Quad that's getting most of your points then. I thought you were running it on Mac OS X though? Do you dual boot it?

I took my G4 Mini off of folding duty because it wasn't getting anything accomplished and was just producing heat. :\

I'm now down to my P4 3GHz Vista Ultimate, P4m 2.4GHz XP Pro laptop, P4 1.8GHz XP Pro desktop and when ever I can my wife's MB CD 2GHz.

Eugene

2008-01-21, 14:04

So it's the Quad that's getting most of your points then. I thought you were running it on Mac OS X though? Do you dual boot it?
Yeah I use GRUB to dual boot it for now...though I might try to switch over the GUID/EFI later. It stays in Windows most of the time because it's my gaming machine.

turtle

2008-01-21, 14:16

Well that makes sense. I keep thinking about just building a cheap folding machine just for points, but I can't really justify that to my wife. Not that I have to justify it, but it sure keeps things more peaceful here when we agree. :D

Eugene

2008-01-21, 21:31

Wait, who am I kidding? I built a $800 piece of shit. It's entirely unstable as you can see, and totally incomparable to the power of a quad-core $2300 Mac Pro. None of you should even consider building a midrange desktop/tower...it's totally not worth it.

FFL

2008-01-21, 21:38

well - if you can't get chirpy, at least you can get grubby!

turtle

2008-01-21, 21:40

I never doubted you one bit personally. I'm all for building a machine like yours!

On another note, can we get one of your guys with a PS3 folding to write a detailed how-to for users to be able to set up their PS3 to fold? I hear it's pretty easy but I'd like to see it added to the sticky with the list of directions. FFL said he'd add it to the sticky and give credit where due. :)

HHogan

2008-01-21, 23:24

I run two SMP clients on the quad because Windows handles MPI really badly. The new quad gets about 4000 PPD. The Athlon X2 used to be a lot slower, but I switched it over to Ubuntu once I got my new PC. The 5th client was a PowerBook G4 that isn't worth wasting energy on.

When my Mac Pro was working I was getting 1760 points over two days. That's "4" cores at 2.66 GHz, 4000 PPD would destroy that. Is the Mac SMP client that bad?

Eugene

2008-01-22, 00:06

When my Mac Pro was working I was getting 1760 points over two days. That's "4" cores at 2.66 GHz, 4000 PPD would destroy that. Is the Mac SMP client that bad?
I've run the SMP client briefly on a quad Mac Pro before and it seemed to do fine...Going by your numbers, your Mac Pro is averaging worse than my 1.66 GHz mini. :err: The Linux and OS X clients should be able to do 4-way SMP fine, but you can try running two clients with different machine IDs for a couple of units to see if that'll work better. In Windows I have a little daemon that changes the processor affinities for each core so they don't pogo between processors though.

HHogan

2008-01-22, 14:45

I think I'm getting really bad numbers across the board:

Getting 900 ppd on the Mac Pro

Getting 750 ppd on the Macbook Pro (2.33 c2d)

Getting 200 ppd on a dual 2.5 Ghz G5

Basically everything is getting out performed by the 2 PS3s... then I have a 3.2 GHz P4 H-T going, and a P4 2.8 Ghz, along with a 2 Ghz CD.

Overall my numbers should be much higher, shouldn't they?

Eugene

2008-01-22, 18:38

Those numbers resemble your would-be output if you were running only using 1 CPU on each client. So I'm thinking you've been grossly underperforming the entire time. Your numbers should be better than mine, and I'll probably be averaging 7K PPD this week.

Eugene

2008-01-24, 00:03

Good lord, my 2.16GHz iMac got a Project 3060 WU the other day and it's taking 37 minutes per 1%...This is going to kill my average for the next couple of days. :p

jcoley2

2008-01-25, 06:56

Here's a little odd thing I have noticed about InCrease that I am hoping some one has a solution for. We run it on our iMac Duo 2.0 with 5 users using fast switching. Mostly my wife is using it, so I set up InCrease there and have excluded applications that are CPU extensive to pause it.

Here is the problem: when users switch to their account, InCrease does not (1) seem to slow down it work for extensive work and even if one of the kids selects an application to pause, it does not see it.

Any ideas how to fix this?

torifile

2008-01-26, 08:07

Eugene

2008-01-26, 08:58

I've been folding with my 40 gig PS3 for about 3 days now and it's dead silent. It's not even that hot. :) I'm thinking of getting my mac mini and my iMac folding again since they sit idle so much of the time...
I fold with my mini, but I do worry about its longevity. Its core temps get up to about 85C, and it's winter right now. Max Tjunction is 100C, but 15C is not that much of a buffer...

torifile

2008-01-28, 23:41

We're going to overtake The Mothership in 12 months. :lol: Apple Computer Inc. is 12 months away from us. Come on, guys and gals! Get folding!

ShawnJ

2008-02-02, 16:49

I've got my MBP (since a day or two ago) and Dell Latitude (since just now) running F@H.

What do you guys think about recruiting a few more AI'ers to join the team? Maybe a thread in GD over there?

Question though: is a MBP suitable for 24/7 folding or is that abusing it?

turtle

2008-02-02, 19:37

digitaldave

2008-02-03, 09:29

I just started my PS3 folding for Team AN :). No idea when I'll show up on the stats page though.

Is it ok to have a PS3 folding 24/7?

Dave.

turbulentfurball

2008-02-03, 09:33

My PS3 has been folding 24/7 for the past few months with no detrimental effects.

I stopped folding on my MacBook because I was unable to stop it when I wanted to; it would just start up again of it's own accord. If I tried to close it and then re-open it, I would end up having it running two clients. My Mac Mini is currently out of service pending a CPU upgrade. I'm sure it'll perform much better with a dual core processor than the Core Solo!

jcoley2

2008-02-05, 08:02

I just ran into a problem on my Quad and not sure what to do: it has stopped and will not restart. One unit is ready to upload but wont, and another unit has been "deleted". The two other CPUs are work in progress and stopped. I have rebooted the system to no avail. I have pushed Start and it seems to start and then immediately stop.

Any ideas--hate to loose the work.

Eugene

2008-02-05, 12:25

Any ideas--hate to loose the work.
Are you using the beta client? There's a new beta client out since the old ones expired on Feb 2. Actually it looks like a large number of people have machines not uploading work lately.

turtle

2008-02-05, 19:03

Are you using the beta client? There's a new beta client out since the old ones expired on Feb 2. Actually it looks like a large number of people have machines not uploading work lately.

Is that why my folding quit functioning on my MB? I just uninstalled it because I haven't had time to sort it out yet. About the 2nd is the last day it worked. :\

turbulentfurball

2008-02-05, 19:05

My PS3 has sucked at submitting units for the past week or so too. It was averaging 3 per day for several months, and I've had a couple of days this week with no units completed at all. Nothing to do with a beta client of course. (And no, I haven't spent these days playing Ratchet and Clank :))

HHogan

2008-02-05, 22:59

None of my systems are submitting properly, they are all hung up except one.

This is getting annoying.

alcimedes

2008-02-05, 23:03

Eugene

2008-02-06, 00:58

Yeah, I'd say half or more of the machines I have aren't working at the moment, and I haven't been able to get my Mac Pro folding either. It really kills the momentum of a project like this if you can't fold when you want to. :)
I noticed the new beta client and updated all my machines ASAP. Haven't noticed any machines hanging on work units.

turtle

2008-02-06, 04:45

Where are you seeing the new beta? I am only seeing the same version I have.

jcoley2

2008-02-06, 06:26

Where are you seeing the new beta? I am only seeing the same version I have.

I posted a question to the F@H forum and found out last night that there was a new client released as of Feb 2. We need to get it. Problem is InCrease has not released a new version so without doing some changes in Terminal (which I am not adept at doing) you cannot run the new version.

Hence, I am waiting.

jcoley2

2008-02-06, 06:38

Actually, here is the post from the F@H Forum:

Hello jcoley2 and welcome to the forum.

If you've been folding for about 2 months, you're probably using the OSX-PPC beta 1 client. Do a File...Find for fah6 in the filename, and if the date on it is earlier than Feb. 2, it's the old client.

The old client expired on Feb. 2; the revised new client is available now at Stanford's Downloads page, but at a different address than the one built into InCrease (which pointed toward the old client).

You can either wait a few days for calxalot to update InCrease, or take matters into your own hands: download the new client, rename it fah6, use Terminal to designate it as an executable (look at earlier posts in this thread for directions) and use it to replace all instances of fah6 on your G5 quad with the new client downloaded from Stanford. Then start up InCrease and see what happens!

Concerning the "no work available" messages at the top of the log you posted, that's happening because the Stanford servers have been out of work for PPC's for a few days. However, if the new client is working (as it should) your partially finished work units should restart once the clients are replaced with the newer versions.

Please try it and let us know what happens. Stanford doesn't have a complete set of PPC machines to test all combinations of processor (G3, G4, G5) and operating system (10.2, 10.3, 10.4, 10.5) so we're relying on reader reports to confirm that everything works correctly.

Looking forward to hearing from you soon!

turtle

2008-02-06, 09:33

Wow, well I guess I'll just wait it out then. I'm not going through the hassle just yet. Thanks for the info.

Eugene

2008-02-06, 09:38

The real question is...why aren't some of your machines crunching at their full potential? I tried digging around the stats/project page, but found no obvious irregularities.

Working at 100% CPU 24/7, jcoley2's Intel machines should get roughly 1000PPD each on their own. The PS3 should get another 800PPD. Don't know how fast your Quad G5 is, but four 2.0 GHz G5 core should end up doing about 800PPD. So that's a max potential of ~3600 PPD from your farm.

HHogan should be getting 3000PPD from his Mac Pro, 1200PPD from his MBP, 400PPD from his G5 Tower, 800PPD each from his two PS3s, 1000PPD from his 2GHz Core Duo, 200 PPD from his 3.2GHz P4 and 100 PPD from his 2.8GHz P4... ~7500PPD

EDIT: For the record, I have never bothered with InCrease.

digitaldave

2008-02-06, 12:42

HHogan

2008-02-06, 13:27

Well, F@H is totally screwed up on my end.

My Mac Pro is saying 68 days for a 1700ish point WU, my MBP won't even start a new unit, the PS3s keep losing their progress.

I think I'm just going to shut it all down (except the PCs) for a couple of weeks and try it again once they get their issues worked out. There's no point using up the power for no reason. I'll give the systems a break.

jcoley2

2008-02-06, 16:20

Don't know how fast your Quad G5 is, but four 2.0 GHz G5 core should end up doing about 800PPD.

I have 4 x 2.5 GHZ but I get no where near 800 PPD. I generally have 4 units working at 180-220 points and they take 24-48 hours running full out. I do get about 1760 points out of the MBP but it usually takes more like 30 hours.

turtle

2008-02-06, 18:27

I just installed the beta2 from Stanford's site and it's folding away again. :)

While I was there I found this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I91wZ_VgDl8) cool video done up to make sure people knew how to configure their PS3 to fold. :)

jcoley2

2008-02-06, 20:18

While I was there I found this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I91wZ_VgDl8) cool video done up to make sure people knew how to configure their PS3 to fold. :)

That was pretty funny. Love the '50s retro look including the lines down the film.

Eugene

2008-02-07, 00:57

I have 4 x 2.5 GHZ but I get no where near 800 PPD. I generally have 4 units working at 180-220 points and they take 24-48 hours running full out. I do get about 1760 points out of the MBP but it usually takes more like 30 hours.
Note 30 hours for a 1760 point work unit is 1400+ PPD.

I used fahinfo.org to get an estimate for the G5 since I don't have one of my own.

Eugene

2008-02-07, 00:59

Eugene,

I've only been folding with my PS3 for a couple of days, but so far my average has been just over 300ppd, much lower than the 800 you mentioned the PS3 might be able to do. Is this because I'm runninng it in the standard mode, not advanced mode?
I was going on Nosferadrew's older estimates and a couple of results I found on the web, but maybe the work units PS3s get now or the crunchers it uses have changed?

digitaldave

2008-02-07, 03:02

No idea what's going on :(. My PS3 just get sent a unit that it thinks will complete in about 1.5 days! I thought they were supposed to take about 8 hours :confused:.

turbulentfurball

2008-02-07, 17:49

No idea what's going on :(. My PS3 just get sent a unit that it thinks will complete in about 1.5 days! I thought they were supposed to take about 8 hours :confused:.

My PS3 submitted a 1500 point unit a couple of days ago. This is really unusual. I've never seen one more than about 350 points for a PS3.

NosferaDrew

2008-02-07, 22:02

There have been a lot of PS3 server issues lately. Look here (http://folding.typepad.com/) for more info.

Basically, there's an issue with the PS3 client and they are working with Sony to fix the issue:
Are there any ideas when Sony might release the updated client.

Thanks for all the info that you been posting, has kept me from throwing my machine out the window.

Posted by: Daniel Greaken | February 07, 2008 at 10:45 AM

Hi, Daniel, I think that one of Those Who Should Know said somewhere else that it is impossible to project when Sony might release the updated client. Right now they're still trying to troubleshoot the issue. When they are done with that, then the Stanford team and Sony must agree on a solution, Sony has to make the changes to their code, and the package has to be published on the servers. So there's a lot of things left to do and a lot of groups that must work together to get them done, which takes more time than one group working alone, and makes the finishing time somewhat unpredictable.

Posted by: ploeg | February 07, 2008 at 11:36 AM

jcoley2

2008-02-08, 07:47

Has anyone downloaded FAH6 beta 2 and tried to install it manually to work with InCrease? If so, can you put up step by steps on how to do it.

FFL

2008-02-08, 10:59

Has anyone downloaded FAH6 beta 2 and tried to install it manually to work with InCrease? If so, can you put up step by steps on how to do it.

Yeah.

I downloaded the console version from the Stanford downloads page. It expanded into a folder that contained two files - fah6 and mpiexec.

I copied those files into my unit directories in my user Library / InCrease folder, replacing the existing files of the same name.

Restarted computer, restarted InCrease, and folding resumed.

No terminal trickery was necessary - the downloaded files were already set as Unix Executable Files.

HHogan

2008-02-08, 14:49

Here's what my Macs state for their WUs:

Core 2 Duo Macbook Pro (2.33):

Average pph: 48.707, ppd: 1168.98, ppw: 8182.8, ppy: 426957

Mac Pro (4 x 2.66):

Average pph: 56.680, ppd: 1360.32, ppw: 9522.2, ppy: 496844

Powermac G5 (Dual 2.5):

Average pph: 4.464, ppd: 107.13, ppw: 749.9, ppy: 39129

So according to those #s the PS3s were racking in about 1200 ppd (Combined) and the PCs the rest up to the 5500 or so.

The Macs are brutally low # wise.

Eugene

2008-02-08, 17:19

The MBP is just about right. The PPC client is single-threaded, so you'd have to run 4 clients on it at 100PPD each. The Mac Pro, don't know what's bogging it down.

HHogan

2008-02-08, 21:59

Could it be that I'm running Leopard server on it?

jcoley2

2008-02-09, 07:41

jcoley2

2008-02-09, 07:59

I tried downloading the Intel Console version and doing FFL instructed. I could not find the FAH5 files in Library (there is no Increase in Library or user/Library) but I did find them in Applications/Folding@home file. I replaced both the FAH file and mpiexec files and rebooted.

I seemed to have lost my work (56%) and it will not restart. Here is the log:

[13:55:11] Verifying core Core_a1.fah...
[13:55:11] Signature is VALID
[13:55:11]
[13:55:11] Trying to unzip core FahCore_a1.exe
[13:55:18] Decompressed FahCore_a1.exe (3246776 bytes) successfully
[13:55:18] + Core successfully engaged
[13:55:21] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[13:55:21] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[13:55:21] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:55:21] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:55:22] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.56).
[13:55:22] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[13:55:22] Loaded queue successfully.
[13:55:22] - Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.

jcoley2

2008-02-09, 09:42

-------- FAHlog.txt tail of Unit at ~/Library/Folding@home --------
[13:59:22] Core found.
[13:59:22] Working on Unit 04 [February 9 13:59:22]
[13:59:22] + Working ...
[13:59:22] CoreStatus = 7F (127)
[13:59:22] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0x7f
[13:59:22] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[13:59:22] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[13:59:22] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:59:22] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:59:23] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.56).
[13:59:23] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[13:59:23] Loaded queue successfully.
[13:59:24] - Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[13:59:30] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:59:30] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:59:30] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.56).
[13:59:30] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[13:59:31] Loaded queue successfully.
[13:59:38] + Closed connections
[13:59:43]
[13:59:43] + Processing work unit
[13:59:43] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[13:59:43] Core found.
[13:59:43] Working on Unit 05 [February 9 13:59:43]
[13:59:43] + Working ...
[13:59:43] CoreStatus = 7F (127)
[13:59:43] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0x7f
[13:59:43] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[13:59:43] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[13:59:43] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:59:43] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:59:43] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.56).
[13:59:43] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[13:59:43] Loaded queue successfully.
[13:59:50] + Closed connections
[13:59:55]
[13:59:55] + Processing work unit
[13:59:55] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[13:59:55] Core found.
[13:59:55] Working on Unit 06 [February 9 13:59:55]
[13:59:55] + Working ...
[13:59:55] CoreStatus = 7F (127)
[13:59:55] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0x7f
[13:59:55]
Folding@Home will go to sleep for 1 day as there have been 5 consecutive Cores executed which failed to complete a work unit.
[13:59:55] (To wake it up early, quit the application and restart it.)
[13:59:55] If problems persist, please visit our website at http://folding.stanford.edu for help.
[13:59:55] + Sleeping...

Eugene

2008-02-09, 09:46

But It looks like the console version for G5 is not available yet. I went to the download page and it is listing the console version as version 5.02. There is a 6.01 beta 2 there but when I download that I get a file named FAH6-1.01beta2-OSX-PPC but I cannot expand it nor do anything with it.

More help please.
That single file is the executable. You'd type the path to that file in a Terminal window and it would start running. I would rename it fah5 and put it wherever InCrease thinks that executable should be. Or if InCrease allows you to change the search path for executables, make it search for "FAH6-1.01beta2-OSX-PPC"

I tried downloading the Intel Console version and doing FFL instructed. I could not find the FAH5 files in Library (there is no Increase in Library or user/Library) but I did find them in Applications/Folding@home file. I replaced both the FAH file and mpiexec files and rebooted.
I just downloaded InCrease to check it out. It looks like the the executables need to be dropped in ~/Library/Application\ Support/InCrease/bin/smp/

I'm not sure about the other settings, but it automagically displayed the status of my client running in ~/Library/Folding@Home. After cursory review though, I doubt I'm going to start using the InCrease interface...It's needlessly complex as most interfaces designed by geeks are.

jcoley2

2008-02-09, 14:05

I just downloaded InCrease to check it out. It looks like the the executables need to be dropped in ~/Library/Application\ Support/InCrease/bin/smp/

I currently do not see anything in that smp file.

jcoley2

2008-02-09, 14:07

That single file is the executable. You'd type the path to that file in a Terminal window and it would start running. I would rename it fah5 and put it wherever InCrease thinks that executable should be. Or if InCrease allows you to change the search path for executables, make it search for "FAH6-1.01beta2-OSX-PPC"

I tried typing this in terminal and got the following response:

Quad:~ jcoley2$ /Users/jcoley2/Downloads/FAH6-1.01beta2-OSX-PPC

-bash: /Users/jcoley2/Downloads/FAH6-1.01beta2-OSX-PPC: Permission denied
Quad:~ jcoley2$

Eugene

2008-02-09, 14:21

I currently do not see anything in that smp file.
See this is why I don't bother with InCrease at all. :lol:

I tried typing this in terminal and got the following response:

Quad:~ jcoley2$ /Users/jcoley2/Downloads/FAH6-1.01beta2-OSX-PPC

-bash: /Users/jcoley2/Downloads/FAH6-1.01beta2-OSX-PPC: Permission denied
Quad:~ jcoley2$
Actually it looks like that's the "10.3" client? I don't know what's up with that since it just downloads as a flat file. How come you aren't downloading the PPC console client? That one correctly downloads as a .dmg with a single file named fah5 in it.

jcoley2

2008-02-11, 15:27

How come you aren't downloading the PPC console client? That one correctly downloads as a .dmg with a single file named fah5 in it.

OK, once I have the Fah5 file from there, where do I put it?

jcoley2

2008-02-11, 16:04

Ok, here it was I did. I downloaded the Mac OS X Text Console PPC (v 5.02) for G3-G5. I then copied into the following folders where I saw Fah6:

~/library/Application Support/Increase/Bin
~/library/Increase/Unit 1, Unit 2, Unit 3 and Unit 4

I then changed all occurances from Fah5 to Fah6.

I restarted Increase and it seems to be working. . . or so I thought.

Unit 3 (which was 100% finished) seems to have sent it work but is not doing anything else--here is the console:

-------- Queue Dump of Unit at ~/Library/InCrease/unit3 --------
qd released 14 December 2007 (fr 063); qd info 14 December 2007 (update-qd.pl)
Queue version 5.01

Index 1: finished 186.00 pts (4.171 pt/hr) 28.5 X min speed
server: 171.64.65.58:8080; project: 3040, "p3040_supervillin-03"
Folding: run 9, clone 190, generation 37; benchmark 0; misc: 500, 200
issue: Sat Feb 2 17:39:44 2008; begin: Sat Feb 2 17:39:45 2008
end: Mon Feb 4 14:15:19 2008; due: Wed Mar 26 18:39:45 2008 (53 days)
preferred: Sun Mar 9 18:39:45 2008 (36 days)
core URL: http://www.stanford.edu/~pande/OSX/PowerPC/Core_78.fah (V1.90)
CPU: 2,0 PowerPC; OS: 3,0 OSX
tag: P3040R9C190G37
memory: 4608 MB
assignment info (le): Sat Feb 2 17:39:43 2008; A46EAB6A
CS: 76.122.64.171; upload failures: 5; P limit: 10484736
user: jcoley2; team: 39160; ID: B4B04821BAC30A07; mach ID: 3
work/wudata_01.dat file size: 292014; WU type: Folding@Home

Average download rate 281.778 KB/s (u=4); upload rate 153.160 KB/s (u=4)
Performance fraction 0.960566 (u=4)
Average pph: 3.184, ppd: 76.42, ppw: 534.9, ppy: 27911

Unit 2 shows that it is still deleted:

-------- Queue Dump of Unit at ~/Library/InCrease/unit2 --------
qd released 14 December 2007 (fr 063); qd info 14 December 2007 (update-qd.pl)
Queue version 5.01

Index 3: deleted 186.00 pts
server: 171.64.65.58:8080; project: 3040
Folding: run 39, clone 220, generation 38; benchmark 0; misc: 500, 200
issue: Sat Feb 2 12:56:20 2008; begin: Sat Feb 2 12:56:21 2008
end: ZERO; due: Wed Mar 26 13:56:21 2008 (53 days)
preferred: Sun Mar 9 13:56:21 2008 (36 days)
core URL: http://www.stanford.edu/~pande/OSX/PowerPC/Core_78.fah
CPU: 2,0 PowerPC; OS: 3,0 OSX
tag: P3040R39C220G38
memory: 4608 MB
assignment info (le): Sat Feb 2 12:56:19 2008; A46E6D86
CS: 76.122.64.171; P limit: 10484736
user: jcoley2; team: 39160; ID: AAF8280D0DDF6742; mach ID: 2
work/wudata_03.dat file size: 290580; WU type: Folding@Home

Average download rate 302.764 KB/s (u=4); upload rate 190.190 KB/s (u=4)
Performance fraction 0.959914 (u=4)
Average pph: 3.097, ppd: 74.33, ppw: 520.3, ppy: 27150

Unit 1 and 4 are saying they are running and in activity monitor I see two Fahcore_78.exe running but I used to see four.

So how to I restart units 2 and 3?

jcoley2

2008-02-11, 16:09

There appears to be a problem getting new work which must be why unit 3 is failing:

-------- FAHlog.txt tail of Unit at ~/Library/InCrease/unit3 --------
[21:37:39] + Attempting to get work packet
[21:37:39] - Will indicate memory of 4294965248 MB.
[21:37:39] - Connecting to assignment server
[21:37:39] Connecting to http://assign.stanford.edu:8080/
[21:37:39] Posted data.
[21:37:39] Initial: 0000; - Successful: assigned to (0.0.0.0).
[21:37:39] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[21:37:39] Work Unit has an invalid address.
[21:37:39] - Error: Attempt #5 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[21:39:00] + Attempting to get work packet
[21:39:00] - Will indicate memory of 4294965248 MB.
[21:39:00] - Connecting to assignment server
[21:39:00] Connecting to http://assign.stanford.edu:8080/
[21:39:00] Posted data.
[21:39:00] Initial: 0000; - Successful: assigned to (0.0.0.0).
[21:39:00] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[21:39:00] Work Unit has an invalid address.
[21:39:00] - Error: Attempt #6 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[21:41:43] + Attempting to get work packet
[21:41:43] - Will indicate memory of 4294965248 MB.
[21:41:43] - Connecting to assignment server
[21:41:43] Connecting to http://assign.stanford.edu:8080/
[21:41:44] Posted data.
[21:41:44] Initial: 0000; - Successful: assigned to (0.0.0.0).
[21:41:44] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[21:41:44] Work Unit has an invalid address.
[21:41:44] - Error: Attempt #7 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[21:47:15] + Attempting to get work packet
[21:47:15] - Will indicate memory of 4294965248 MB.
[21:47:15] - Connecting to assignment server
[21:47:15] Connecting to http://assign.stanford.edu:8080/
[21:47:16] Posted data.
[21:47:16] Initial: 0000; - Successful: assigned to (0.0.0.0).
[21:47:16] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[21:47:16] Work Unit has an invalid address.
[21:47:16] - Error: Attempt #8 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[21:58:00] + Attempting to get work packet
[21:58:00] - Will indicate memory of 4294965248 MB.
[21:58:00] - Connecting to assignment server
[21:58:00] Connecting to http://assign.stanford.edu:8080/
[21:58:00] Posted data.
[21:58:00] Initial: 0000; - Successful: assigned to (0.0.0.0).
[21:58:00] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[21:58:00] Work Unit has an invalid address.
[21:58:00] - Error: Attempt #9 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.

jcoley2

2008-02-11, 16:37

Never mind. I came back a hour an hour later and now all four units are running, so I guess I am back in shape!

Time to go and set up the iMac and MBP.

jcoley2

2008-02-13, 08:59

Ok, now both my Intel based machines (MBP and iMac) are running into problems. Here is what I did:

I downloaded and installed Mac OS X (Intel) SMP client Installed 6.01 Beta2 for CD/CD2. I then ran Increase but it could not find client.

I noticed in Increase preferences under the Launch tab that the Client was Fah5 but that the new one in Applications/Foldershare is Fah6 so I changed this in preferences and its appears to start and then stop. Here is the Log:

-------- FAHlog.txt tail of Unit at ~/Library/Folding@home --------
[14:32:44] Loaded queue successfully.
[14:32:51] + Closed connections
[14:32:56]
[14:32:56] + Processing work unit
[14:32:56] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[14:32:56] Core found.
[14:32:56] Working on Unit 00 [February 11 14:32:56]
[14:32:56] + Working ...
[14:32:56] CoreStatus = 7F (127)
[14:32:56] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0x7f
[14:32:56] Too many errors during run. Purging queue.
[14:32:56]
[14:32:56] + Processing work unit
[14:32:56] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[14:32:56] Core found.
[14:32:56] Working on Unit 00 [February 11 14:32:56]
[14:32:56] + Working ...
[14:32:57] CoreStatus = 7F (127)
[14:32:57] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0x7f
[14:32:57] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[14:32:57] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[14:32:57] + Attempting to get work packet
[14:32:57] - Connecting to assignment server
[14:32:57] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.56).
[14:32:57] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[14:32:57] Loaded queue successfully.
[14:32:57] - Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[14:33:11] + Attempting to get work packet
[14:33:11] - Connecting to assignment server
[14:33:11] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.56).
[14:33:11] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[14:33:11] Loaded queue successfully.
[14:33:19] + Closed connections
[14:33:24]
[14:33:24] + Processing work unit
[14:33:24] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[14:33:24] Core found.
[14:33:24] Working on Unit 01 [February 11 14:33:24]
[14:33:24] + Working ...
[14:33:25] CoreStatus = 7F (127)
[14:33:25] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0x7f
[14:33:25]
Folding@Home will go to sleep for 1 day as there have been 5 consecutive Cores executed which failed to complete a work unit.
[14:33:25] (To wake it up early, quit the application and restart it.)
[14:33:25] If problems persist, please visit our website at http://folding.stanford.edu for help.
[14:33:25] + Sleeping...

Folding@Home Client Shutdown.

Any idea what to do?

Xaqtly

2008-02-13, 11:37

That's exactly what it did to me last night when I tried to install it, and I tried the same thing and got the same result.

Eugene

2008-02-13, 12:32

Well I still don't know exactly how InCrease works, so you'll have to figure out where either it or the fah6 executable itself wants mpiexec to reside. In my case, it wants it in ~/Library/Folding@home

Luca

2008-02-13, 12:38

I'll be contributing once again to Team AppleNova! Not sure how long it'll take to turn in my first WU... I'm running the SMP client and it must be a big one, because after more than a day it's still only half done.

I hope they come out with a new stable release of the GPU client too, with support for more GPUs, because I have a pretty fast graphics card that isn't being used most of the time.

jcoley2

2008-02-13, 17:44

Well, I am thoroughly frustrated with FH and Increase. Both my Intel machines are stuck, I reloaded Increase, loaded both versions of the latest FH, tried multiple combinations of putting Fah6 and mpiexec in multiple places and yet cannot get it to restart.

bender0069

2008-02-13, 17:44

I joined the folding team about 2 weeks ago. Thanks to whomever posted that PS3 will fold. It's pretty much been folding nonstop with the exception of play time on the weekends

NosferaDrew

2008-02-17, 12:23

PS3 client has been updated:
Hello,

Starting today a new version of Folding is available. This version is a minor fix to the previous 1.3 version and adds a better tuned algorithm that handles peak performance hours of Folding@home network, by acting differently to certain network errors if those occur.
It is recommended that you update to the new version by quitting the application and restarting it. Your current WU will not be damaged in any way, in-fact Folding will continue from the exact point you have stopped it.
Please also check the official Sony Folding site here: http://www.scei.co.jp/folding/en/update.html

We can already see a stabilized network activity for the last 5 days. With the new update we are certain that the network will continue to be stable for good.
At this point I would like to thank people again for being patient and continue to donate to our project while Stanford & Sony was working on the fix.

Thanks,
Noam
Sony Development Team

PB PM

2008-02-17, 17:38

Just started folding again myself, on my new Windows box. Seems to be going fast enough, and I don't have to tie down my MBP to do it either.

jcoley2

2008-02-19, 17:22

I still cannot get my Intel based Mac machines to fold. Don't even know where to start.

turtle

2008-02-19, 17:27

My wife's MB is folding but it's not getting any points it seems. I'm going to have to turn it off for now until I can put more time into it. :(

jcoley2

2008-02-25, 14:28

I still cannot get my Intel based Mac machines to fold. Don't even know where to start.

I finally figured it out. On intel machines you need to go to System Preference and enable Folding@Home at the bottom. For some reason on G5 machines this is not required.

Anyways, back to four machines folding again. . .

PB PM

2008-02-25, 14:45

Yeah, you do have to do that. It depends on what version you get I think (Console or GUI).

dmegatool

2008-02-25, 15:00

Hey guys maybe you can help me.

I just realised that I don't fold anymore. Seems like it's been a while. Anyway... I can't seems to fold again. Here's what Increase tells me Starting...

Unit at ~/Library/Folding@home:
cannot start: isWritable YES, hasClient YES, isStopped YES, isLocal YES, owner F@H, platform (null)
The unit owner appears to not be InCrease.
If it should be, you may need to rename the enclosing folders to contain neither "Folding@home" nor "foldingathome", which are assumed to belong to the Stanford GUI or finstall, respectively.

In the preference, F@H is activated... I was wondering how to unistall everything and start in new. Or maybe if you could solve my problem :)

PB PM

2008-02-25, 15:12

The uninstall instructions are right on the Standford Folding download page.

1. /Applications/Folding@home.app/
2. /Library/LaunchDaemons/Folding@home.plist
3. /Library/PreferencePanes/Folding@home.prefPane/
4. ~/Library/Folding@home/

dmegatool

2008-02-27, 08:54

Thx, I'm back !!

MBHockey

2008-03-09, 09:59

I'm just getting back into Folding. Looks like a lot has changed since the last time I did this. I installed the 6.10 beta 2 client from this page:

http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Download

I enabled it in System Preferences...but i'm curious as to how I see the progress of the current work unit?

PB PM

2008-03-09, 15:53

Find an app called Increase.

Eugene

2008-03-09, 19:30

Find an app called Increase.
With all the trouble people are having with InCrease, I'm surprised people still use it all.

Download the console smp client and read up on the terminal multiplexer called "screen." The GUI/screensaver client runs with a lot of overhead, so I don't really care to use it.

MBHockey

2008-03-09, 20:14

Yeah I used to use inCrease, but it doesn't seem to work well anymore. Earlier today I used it to pause a work unit because I was on battery power on the MBP and then later I couldn't get inCrease to resume folding.

Eugene, I've downloaded the widget tailDash and have it fetching info from the unitinfo.txt file...works really well for at-a-glance updates. I also never cared for the wasted cycles those screen savers used up.

Is there an easy way of pausing/resuming work units? What would be absolutely ideal is if it could automagically pause my work units when I switch to battery power (kind of like how smcFancontrol switches to a bit higher fan speed when I unplug it from AC) and resume once plugged back in.

Also: Is it bad to have the MBP fully pegged all the time? Are my fans going to burn out always being at 6000 RPM? My CPU is around 210 Fahrenheit all the time now...is that too warm a temperature to have it always be at?

MBHockey

2008-03-09, 20:43

So I looked up some information about the Merom CPU inside my MBP. Looks like you don't want to be past 100 celsius (according to this (http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2_Duo_(Merom)) site).

My MBP was pegged for about three hours and the CPU was at 211...essentially 100 C. Maybe you're not really supposed to fold on a laptop?

http://homepage.mac.com/mike.barca/temps.png

turtle

2008-03-09, 21:16

When mine got that warm Apple gave me a new one. After several repair attempts that is.

Eugene

2008-03-09, 21:17

My MBP was pegged for about three hours and the CPU was at 211...essentially 100 C. Maybe you're not really supposed to fold on a laptop?

http://homepage.mac.com/mike.barca/temps.png
I don't fold on my MacBook for that reason. My Mac mini gets up to about 85C, which is under its max Tjunction of 100C, so I do fold on that. As I've said before, a guy I know cracked his glass tabletop while running the Distributed.net client overnight on his 'Santa Rosa' 15" MBP. Anecdotally, I've found the Core Duo and Santa Rosa MBPs to get the hottest, with the original Core 2 Duo and new Penryn MBPs to run much, much cooler.

Running your CPU near its limits will cut down on its lifetime...Running it beyond its thermal design will probably kill it quickly.

PB PM

2008-03-10, 01:37

Interesting. When I fold with my Macbook Pro, I just set the fans to max (with SMCfancontroller) and it never goes over 71C.

Eugene

2008-03-10, 02:34

Interesting. When I fold with my Macbook Pro, I just set the fans to max (with SMCfancontroller) and it never goes over 71C.
Max as in 5500 RPM? That will severely cut down the life of the sleeve bearing on the fan and sound like a jet engine too.

PB PM

2008-03-10, 09:10

MBHockey

2008-03-10, 18:28

Thanks for all the answers guys. I've decided it's best to wait till I've got a well ventilated desktop to get back into folding.

Eugene

2008-03-10, 19:24

6000rpm actually. I never did very many WUs on my MBP, though for that very reason. Considering that the fans on a MBP are running all the time anyway (at 2000rpm) the life time wont get any better. If they were sleeve bearing, I doubt they would last the 3 years of Applecare, since sl fans only get around 20-50,000 hours of life.
A fan running at 2000RPM isn't putting the same kind of load on a bearing as one running at 6000RPM. 20000 hours MTBF is still 2.2 years, and if the fan is running at 2000 RPM the bearing will easily last longer.

PB PM

2008-03-10, 19:53

True, but considering the price of a MBP, you'd think they would throw in some FDB fans.

FFL

2008-07-21, 15:11

w00t - I am now a (points) MILLIONAIRE!!

turtle

2008-07-21, 15:23

I was thinking about bumping this thread too. :) I've added a Mini to the fold and it's really helped out. Now I just need to get a Mac Pro to add in and we'll be in great shape. :)

alcimedes

2008-07-21, 15:26

Bwa ha ha ha ha.

I still reign supreme. My only competition (Eugene) seems to have stopped folding a year or two too soon.

jcoley2

2008-08-04, 17:29

Hey, is anyone else having problems with the recent 2.4.1 Imcrease? On my MBP is seems stuck for 2 days. None of the buttons (Start, Stop, Pause, Continue) work--they are all grayed out. Also the Molecule button. I am 10% on progress, the screen says "starting. . . " but it is not working.

Any ideas?

turtle

2008-08-04, 17:47

I'm dealing with the same issue actually and was going to post here but never did.

I'm thinking of just installing Stanford's client and letting it run. I'll go back to InCrease once it's working right again.

jcoley2

2008-08-04, 17:49

Funny it is working fine on my Quad G5.

PB PM

2008-08-04, 22:29

I'm not folding on my Mac anymore (I'm using the GPU client with my 8800GT now). Make sure you download the newest clients, and that the WU isn't past its expectation date.

turtle

2008-08-05, 12:33

Funny it is working fine on my Quad G5.

Seems to be an issue with the Intels then. I'm not folding on my G4 Mini anymore since it didn't really do much good.

PB PM

2008-08-05, 13:18

It was working on my MBP, I just did it for a test yesterday. Had to stop folding though, its getting too hot out, and I don't need any additional heat right now.

turtle

2008-08-05, 21:59

I just downloaded the latest client from Stanford and it's running again on my MB. I haven't messed with letting InCrease control it yet though. I'll try that later.

turtle

2008-08-05, 23:09

Nope, didn't fix it for me. I keep getting this error. :\
[03:43:21] + Downloading new core: FahCore_a1.exe
[04:03:21] + 136 bytes downloaded
[04:03:21] Verifying core Core_a1.fah...
[04:03:21] Could not read compressed core for verification.
[04:03:21] Failed to verify core
[04:03:21] + Error: Could not extract core
[04:03:21] + Core download error (#4), waiting before retry...

PB PM

2008-08-05, 23:13

That's an issue with the Standford server, not InCrease, you know that right?

turtle

2008-08-05, 23:31

That's an issue with the Standford server, not InCrease, you know that right?

:o

Well, now that you mention it I do.

I've been so focused on my new AppleTV that I hadn't really put much thought or effort into this. Thanks for the help. :)

turtle

2008-08-13, 22:46

Ok, something isn't right. All of my machines have stopped folding. They all get the same error.
[01:15:41] + Downloading new core: FahCore_a1.exe
[01:35:42] + 136 bytes downloaded
[01:35:42] Verifying core Core_a1.fah...
[01:35:42] Could not read compressed core for verification.
[01:35:42] Failed to verify core
[01:35:42] + Error: Could not extract core
[01:35:42] + Core download error (#18), waiting before retry...

[02:23:51] + Downloading new core: FahCore_a1.exe
[02:43:51] + 136 bytes downloaded
[02:43:51] Verifying core Core_a1.fah...
[02:43:51] Could not read compressed core for verification.
[02:43:51] Failed to verify core
[02:43:51] + Error: Could not extract core
[02:43:51] + Core download error (#19), waiting before retry...

Any ideas of where to start looking?

NosferaDrew

2008-08-14, 01:02

Ok, something isn't right. All of my machines have stopped folding. They all get the same error.

Any ideas of where to start looking?

Here's a post (http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&p=47400) referring to the issue that you're having. Vijay replied to check his blog (http://folding.typepad.com/), but there's no info there yet.

turtle

2008-08-14, 08:08

In the thread someone posted this:
I had someone email a copy of the updated core and now everything is chugging along fine. It even uploaded the waiting WU's. Can anyone tell me the best way to stay up to date with these cores? And hopefully I can download easier next time.

So, someone want to post a working core? They mentioned FahCore_a2.exe being the issues but I'm running FahCore_a1.exe. Anyone have another core?

turtle

2008-08-17, 12:45

Would someone please zip and post/link me to a FahCore_a1.exe file you are using with your Intel Mac please?

NosferaDrew

2008-08-17, 15:51

Check my Public Folder (http://idisk.mac.com/drew1-Public?view=web).

turtle

2008-08-19, 01:51

You the man! Thanks so much. I'm back to folding again. :)

turtle

2008-08-19, 02:01

Crap, anyone got a FahCore_a2.exe? Seems my wife's MB and my Intel Mini are wanting a2 instead of a1. My MB used a1 though. :)

Edit: Never mind. I uninstalled InCrease and installed Stanford's client and it's using Core a1. Thanks again Drew.

turtle

2008-08-28, 15:49

Ok, now they are all asking for Core_2a.exe. Can someone please post these so I can get folding again until Stanford can get this worked out?

turtle

2008-08-30, 00:58

For those who may run into this again in the future, here is the wiki (http://fahwiki.net/index.php/Downloading_FAH_Core_files_manually) that shows how to manually download working Cores.

FFL, mind adding this to the sticky?

jcoley2

2008-09-09, 17:57

A 2.4.2 update of InCrease is available today. I got it on my G5 Quad but unfortunately nothing on my MBP--still hung up on 2.4.1 and still not working.

kieran

2008-11-10, 19:15

I just picked up a PS3 from a friend of a friend.

Thinking about folding on it at night every once in a while.

Has anyone folded with their PS3? How'd it work out?

NosferaDrew

2008-11-10, 19:57

Has anyone folded with their PS3? How'd it work out?
I've got 2 PS3s folding 24/7 (one since March '07 and I bought the other one a few months later).

You can expect about 1000 ppd if you have it fold all day which is pretty good.

kieran

2008-11-10, 20:41

Sorry if I sound like a "noob" but how do I add my folding name and team # on the PS3?

I have it folding, but I can't seem to figure out how to put in my information

Never mind, I got it.

turtle

2008-11-10, 20:49

Yeah, I just let it fold all the time I'm not playing a BR or game on it. I never notice it and certainly don't hear it. I think it's great that it folds, well worth you letting it fold. :)

kieran

2008-11-10, 21:05

It seems kind of loud to me.

The fan seems to just run the entire time. I don't know if I could stand that with it in my bedroom.

Maybe I'll just let it run during the day sometimes while I'm out and stuff.

turtle

2008-11-10, 21:36

Well, my house has a 2 and half year old and a teething 7 month old. Maybe that's why it's so quiet here. :\

Xaqtly

2008-11-11, 11:15

Yeah you can see my PS3 on the list too, last time I checked it was ranked in the low 20s within the AN team. XaqtlyPS3. I leave it folding all the time unless I'm doing something on it.

edit - ranked #18 now. You're going down, turbyfurby! :lol: :lol:

PB PM

2008-11-11, 12:30

Its been a good run, but I'm out. Hydro rates where just given a hike last month for users of a set amount. Thanks to folding we hit the limit, so I need to stop. :(

turtle

2008-11-11, 12:40

Man, surely you can leave something folding. Sadly our forum's team has been really lacking lately. You'd think with all these members we could accomplish a whole lot more with our folding.

PB PM

2008-11-11, 15:02

I might fold from time to time with my MBP, but folding with the 8800GT put the electrical bill up $20 a month thanks to the rate hike for, "high usage" customers. :(

kieran

2008-11-11, 16:21

Man, surely you can leave something folding. Sadly our forum's team has been really lacking lately. You'd think with all these members we could accomplish a whole lot more with our folding.

That's what I figured. The PS3 is just going to be sitting there all day, I might as well contribute something with it.

I've never really had a good Mac to fold on though. An 800Ghz iMac G4 that didn't do squat, an iBook that I carried with me, and same with the MBA.

I've just never really had a computer to fold with. The numbers that I do have are from installing F@H on a work computer and just letting it run. Maybe I'll do that tomorrow with my new work computer. I know of one computer in particular that continued to run it at least six months after I left that job. :)

turtle

2008-11-11, 21:26

If only I could figure out how much folding is costing me with my power bill. I currently have something like 6 computers and one PS3 folding 24/7. :\ I'm thinking about getting a "Kill-A-Watt" so I can get an idea. Maybe I don't want to know. Then again, I look at it like a donation to research so I really don't mind. :)

kieran

2008-11-11, 22:20

I've seen some stats online that folding a PS3 for 24/7 can add between $15-25 a month to your electric bill.

I really don't see that as much of a burden to not do it. I spend $25 on a lot of stupid shit a month, so donating that money to research isn't that bad.

NosferaDrew

2008-11-11, 22:52

Sadly our forum's team has been really lacking lately. You'd think with all these members we could accomplish a whole lot more with our folding.
Project X is coming. Maybe a couple of months, but don't tell anyone.
Srsly, don't let Alc know anything about it!

If only I could figure out how much folding is costing me with my power bill. I currently have something like 6 computers and one PS3 folding 24/7. :\ I'm thinking about getting a "Kill-A-Watt" so I can get an idea. Maybe I don't want to know. Then again, I look at it like a donation to research so I really don't mind. :)
I've got a Kill-A-Watt that in a box somewhere - if you want it PM me with an address.

PB PM

2008-11-11, 23:51

HezMah19

2008-12-06, 07:52

Anyone see the team stats today? I am the #1 Producer!

Only 2,905,981 points till I catch up with Alc! :p

jcoley2

2008-12-06, 08:09

When I joined the team we were #158. SInce then we have dropped to #185. We need all the help we can get to climb back up the league tables.

turtle

2008-12-06, 09:05

With all the PS3s and Intel Mac users on this forum we could easily rocket up on that list if more users would join in. :) (Not to exclude PowerPC users or the PC users too!)

SpecMode

2008-12-06, 09:23

Might see about firing up a client on my iMac and run it during the day while I'm at work. The MBP is going to stay asleep - I've been running it as a primary system for over a year, and I'd like it to last a while longer yet. :)

Banana

2008-12-06, 09:29

My iMac G5 is acting weirdly.

It has three active WU, one that is just about to be completed, one that's been completed and "ready for upload" for days and I couldn't figure out how to get it to upload, while the third one is stopped as I shouldn't have more than one client running. :\

I initially installed Stanford's console before I knew of InCrease, and InCrease seems to have took over the control... but ?

SpecMode

2008-12-06, 09:40

OK, new client up and running on the iMac. Somehow, I'm still just outside the top 20 even though my last WU was over a year and a half ago...

Now, if I could put my entire LAN on the ship to work, I could boost that number *significantly*, but unfortunately, it could also get me in a lot of trouble. :( That, and I'd have to get WUs onto there by sneakernet, since there's no Internet connection.

kieran

2008-12-06, 12:56

SpecMode

2008-12-08, 02:54

First WU since April of '07 finished up sometime today, and 40% done with the second. Might look into putting together a cheap Linux-based box to use as fileserver (and fold when it isn't being used for that).

SpecMode

2008-12-20, 01:10

Decided that the MBP should be alright to fold for the moment...it stays fairly cool in my apartment during the day, and it's been running fine for the last few days so far as I can tell. The iMac folds while I'm not actually using it; it tends to bog down when folding a bit too much for my tastes, so I disable the client when I get home, and start it back up when I go to sleep.

Gotta defend my spot from HezMah19, after all. :)

turtle

2008-12-20, 05:49

I've been converting a lot of my movis lately and this has really taken it's toll on my folding time. Handbreak running 24/7 doesn't allow much "spare" CPU time. Still, all but my wife's Intel Mac and my PCs are still folding. PCs don't get anywhere near as many points as they used too.

SpecMode

2008-12-21, 10:21

Just took top producer spot from ya, turtle! At this rate, I should catch up to you in...

...

...about 86 years. Hmm. Looks like I need another box here. :lol:

turtle

2008-12-21, 21:03

:)

Don't worry, I just got my wife's MB folding again. That'll help I'm sure. :D

kieran

2008-12-28, 00:02

I was back into it with the PS3 that I picked up a few weeks ago, but then I found out that the Blu-Ray drive was bonked.

I sent it back and just got a refund for it. Maybe I'll pick one up again after the holidays.

Welp, looks like I'm back in.

I'll set the PS3 up tomorrow night and put F@H on it when I get the chance. Should have some points starting on Monday.

Yontsey

2008-12-28, 10:01

I've had a PS3 for awhile now but never really read about this Folding thing. I signed up last night for it, though it was pretty annoying because I had to do about 4 different updates which took forever.

I couldn't figure out how to register for a team. Anyone care to throw me a bone?

turtle

2008-12-28, 19:31

Press Triangle, Select Current Channel and press "X", Select Identity and press "X". Then Change [your] Donor Name (Yontsey) and Join an Existing Team (39160).

There aren't really good instructions for it and the menu system isn't very intuitive either.

*This assumes you are folding now.

kieran

2008-12-28, 21:59

I'm back in.

First WU should be done sometime tomorrow morning. I'm going to leave it running so I can start climbing the charts hopefully

kieran

2008-12-31, 13:25

Well, I've got it going on my PS3 and it's been racking up the points like clockwork. Every six hours it spits out a new WU.

I've also put it on my work PC, but that's slow as hell and it's going to take a while for those points to show up, but every little bit helps.

And, I may have gotten my gf's brother in law to join up with his PS3 and iMac. I saw that he was folding on the PS3 the other day, but he wasn't on a team. He was going to join Macrumors, but I told him about here, and he might just sign up with the better peeps over here.

kieran

2008-12-31, 13:26

Oh, and turtle, I've got a question for you.

How many machines do you have F@H installed on?

turtle

2008-12-31, 18:11

Oh, and turtle, I've got a question for you.

How many machines do you have F@H installed on?

1 PS3, 3 Intel Macs, 2 PCs. It's actually on 2 other PCs but I never really run them anymore. They are 1.8GHz P4s and aren't able to produce much. The Macs are the ones who really put out the WUs.

adamb

2008-12-31, 20:03

Ok I just started folding 2 minutes ago and already my MacBook is being propelled around the room by its fan. My iBook, as pityful as it was at chomping through WUs didnt get this hot / noisey, so dont think I'll be contributing much until I can persuade myself to buy a PS3.

adamb

2009-01-10, 13:41

I just found this (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=39160) site, showing teams 5 places above and below Team AppleNova.

I'm sure some of you have seen it before but thought it was pretty sweet.

PS It's unreal how much faster this MacBook gets through a WU compared to my iBook, and I'm very tempted to get a PS3 now.

SpecMode

2009-01-10, 18:39

That site is actually the only Folding@Home-related site in my bookmarks. Great variety of stats (like, say, the fact that at my current pace, I'll be #5 on Team Applenova by year's end ;) ), and a reasonably good presentation overall.

PB PM

2009-01-10, 19:08

It is a good site, I've been going there for a while.

turtle

2009-01-10, 19:35

Yeah, it's a great site. I actually use it in my bookmarks. The only reason I have Stanford's site in my signature is to allow people to find the source to download and get folding.

kieran

2009-01-10, 23:00

turtle

2009-01-11, 07:53

I"m glad I bought my PS3. I haven't played one game on it, but it's already knocked out over 13,000 points. :)

I would put F@H on my MBA, but with the puny processor and me taking it all over the place, it wouldn't be on long enough to do any good. Once I get an Intel desktop in a year or two, then I'll really be pounding out the WUs.

Yeah, my PS3 folded long before I ever playing games on it. I'm really enjoying this machine too. I have played some games on it now, but I haven't played my Ghost Recon that I got while buying the system. I really want to though, just haven't been able to find the time to "waste" playing that came.
Plus, it stops folding while you're playing. :p

adamb

2009-01-11, 08:19

Ok I've come up with a good excuse I can use to convince myself to buy it. Well, not really an excuse, more a reason. I don't have an HDTV, but could use my 19" monitor as the display, but I also have loads of exams these next 2 weeks, so a PS3 would be a great treat when those are over (plus I have 2 weeks before classes start back with nothing else planned)

Also, although my MacBook is great and has pumped out almost 10k points this week, it runs a little hot, so by buying a PS3 I'll probably be greatly improving the longetivity of it as well.

jcoley2

2009-01-11, 08:47

We have our PS3 ripping F@H too. Amazing how much work it does. In the next 24 hours I am about to over take our team's #9 position almost solely due to the PS3.

We got the kids an Xbox 360 Ultimate this Christmas--how come there is nothing for this machine similar to PS3?

Eugene

2009-04-13, 20:47

Bwa ha ha ha ha.

I still reign supreme. My only competition (Eugene) seems to have stopped folding a year or two too soon.
Just started folding again...and uh...you'll see in a couple of days.

Eugene

2009-04-15, 23:23

Just started folding again...and uh...you'll see in a couple of days.
Grr, hit a small snag, only partial strength for now!

turtle

2009-04-15, 23:44

So what machine/s do you have running folding now?

Luca

2009-04-16, 00:19

I started again for about a month but then decided to reduce my power bills and energy consumption by not over-stressing my CPU and hibernating my computer when it's not in use.

I decided to start again after all. I'm running the SMP client since I have a tri-core CPU and I don't want them to go to waste. But I'm only going to run it when I'm not sleeping or at work. I think it's just too much of a waste to have my computer cranking away 24/7. I also have the GPU client running - as I understand, nVidia GPUs are faster at folding than AMD ones, but I've still got a fast one (4870 overclocked to 825 MHz).

Eugene

2009-04-16, 03:11

In order to make full use out of your tri-core CPU, you need to use "-smp 6" to start six crunchers. Without it, the client will start four.

And yes, the ATI cores need to be optimized bigtime.

Luca

2009-04-16, 16:17

Just started folding again...and uh...you'll see in a couple of days.

Points today: 9,152

:eek:

BTW I figured out the -smp 6 thing. Took me a little bit but then I came across a discussion where someone was saying how to set launch options. For a little while I didn't even know what you meant by it... ah, the failings of command line people trying to explain things to non-command line people. "Just use such and such option" sounds so natural, but when I first read it I was completely baffled.

PB PM

2009-04-16, 16:28

Wow, he must have a few machines folding, or a high end GPU. If you leave a 8800GT folding 24/7 it is easy to get those kinds of numbers. When I did that I would get 8-9k a day too, but I would rather save money than get points.

Eugene

2009-04-25, 05:01

An 8800GT only gets about 4000-4500PPD.

Now witness the power of this fully armed and operational homebrew Tesla HPC...

PB PM

2009-04-25, 13:32

Well its rated to get 4000-5000, but I did get more, because I could get 40,000-50,000 points a week, while at 4500PPD, would only get 31,000. Most likely because I did overclock the 8800GT for a while, but it was running too hot and was less stable.

turtle

2009-04-30, 10:57

InCrease and my Intel Macs are playing together anymore. What's up with that? Right now the only machine working is my PS3. I've taken my PCs off from folding because they aren't doing much anymore these days. It's like they've changed the way folding runs and the older machines just can't make it happen.

Guess I'll need to get a 8-Core Mac Pro. :p

Eugene

2009-04-30, 14:12

Never used InCrease, and never will...entirely unnecessary and the best way to fold is simply to script the console clients the way you need them to behave.

Eugene

2009-05-08, 17:12

http://i40.tinypic.com/6h6jv5.jpg

Yes, that's 3 GTS 250s and a highly overclocked Intel E5200 on a 500W PSU.

NosferaDrew

2009-05-08, 23:34

That's very nice Eugene.

I'm just waiting for my Swiftech liquid cooling parts and a few other goodies to arrive before I can challenge your PPD. :D

PB PM

2009-05-09, 00:38

http://i40.tinypic.com/6h6jv5.jpg

Yes, that's 3 GTS 250s and a highly overclocked Intel E5200 on a 500W PSU.
Wow, they must have really lowered the power requirements on the 250 (9800GTX+ or whatever they want to call it this week) when they moved to the 55nm core! All that on the same 500W PSU I have, sweet, if only my mobo (and electric bill) could handle that! I thought about upgrading to a GTS 250, but then figured, I don't game enough to make it worth while. I would only upgrade if it offered power savings over the 8800GT. I thought about OCing my E8400, but again, chose power savings over, speed.

turtle

2009-08-15, 17:24

So I've put my i7 to work folding but it's not set right for sure. I downloaded the taskbar client but it's only using 1 core of the available 8. Any ideas on how to fully use my system for when I am folding?

I'm thinking about putting the 4870 to work too, but not sure if I should run both at the same time. I'd be nice to see what this thing can do without overclocking it.

(Homebrew PC)

Eugene

2009-08-15, 21:44

PB PM

2009-08-15, 22:59

Is there any real advantage to the console client for GPUs though?

Eugene

2009-08-15, 23:21

Is there any real advantage to the console client for GPUs though?
The advantages for me are I can run it behind screen and will always have access to the client no matter where I am as long as I have SSH access.

Brad

2009-08-15, 23:56

So, I haven't done this in, like, 4 years?
Date of last work unit 2005-07-25 09:05:16

But I figured I'd grab the Linux client and drop it on an old machine that sits idle most of the time. Curiously, though, it never seems to use more than about 40% of the CPU time.

top - 00:55:25 up 168 days, 3:37, 2 users, load average: 1.13, 0.99, 0.51
Tasks: 127 total, 3 running, 124 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
Cpu(s): 0.4% us, 0.4% sy, 49.6% ni, 49.6% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si
Mem: 2063964k total, 1166640k used, 897324k free, 463160k buffers
Swap: 1052248k total, 476k used, 1051772k free, 130940k cached

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
31251 bsmith 39 19 31240 19m 1188 R 40.9 1.0 3:51.64 FahCore_78.exe
1 root 16 0 3632 552 472 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.93 init
2 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:02.09 migration/0
3 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 67:49.54 ksoftirqd/0
4 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:02.22 migration/1
5 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 64:27.04 ksoftirqd/1

Is that normal for the Linux client?

PKIDelirium

2009-08-16, 00:27

Okay, so I forgot to set this up when I got my new Mini up and running. Core 2 Duo that I don't use anywhere near at full capacity. What do I need to do? I've never set up an Intel Mac for folding.

Eugene

2009-08-16, 01:04

But I figured I'd grab the Linux client and drop it on an old machine that sits idle most of the time. Curiously, though, it never seems to use more than about 40% of the CPU time.
If you're on a dual-core system and only run one core, then that's what I'd expect. For Linux, I assume there's a specific smp client and you may have to run it with "-smp"

turtle

2009-08-16, 02:29

I can't seem to get the SMP client running on this machine. It crashes every time it I tell it to do anything. I haven't been able to get it configured yet. I can see "smpd.exe *32" in my process list, but it's doing nothing and isn't configured anyway.

Any pointers to actually get SMP working?

Iago

2009-08-16, 12:15

I've got a PS3 and my MacBook Pro not doing much at the moment, so I'll start contributing to the team.

Brad

2009-08-16, 12:26

If you're on a dual-core system and only run one core, then that's what I'd expect. For Linux, I assume there's a specific smp client and you may have to run it with "-smp"

Ah, okay. This is a P4 with HT that shows up to the OS as two CPUs. I'll look into the possibility of a SMP mode. Thanks, Eugene. :)

turtle

2009-09-17, 21:57

So I decided that since "Beast" isn't really doing anything major most of the time that I'd run F@H on him. Right now MenuMeters doesn't show all 8 Cores working at 100%. In fact it's more like 2 running full at best. Is there something I'm missing?
./fah6 -smp -local -verbosity 9
Is my command line. Should I use another flag or something? Also, would I be better off running my 4870 GPU instead of my i7 920? Any input here, Eugene specifically or anyone else who knows?
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