The applenova folding team! [Archive]

alcimedes

2004-08-30, 14:58

Actually, i've been folding for a while for Team MacOSX (http://teammacosx.homeunix.com/). Great program to use your computer's spare CPU cycles to research a cure for various diseases. Unlike SETI, I actually get the impression from scientists at work that this crap actually makes a difference.

As you can see (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=1971), I've been folding with them for a while. I like having a Mac OSX based team in the top 20 teams on the list. I think it's a good form of evangalism. :D

usurp

2004-08-30, 14:59

http://folding.stanford.edu/

Zodiac

2004-08-30, 15:01

OK then, I'll try to explain it. It is a program that you can download as a screensaver, graphical or console based interface. In the program/internet, you can join and make teams. But what the programs does, is take 3D images of protiens( they're in diseases, solvents, chemicals etc) and folds them into some kind of image that helps scientists that are running this, cure diseases, find properties of chemicals etc. Now, this is getting huge and around 1.5 million people are doing it. And the program takes all your spare processor power and uses it. It doesn't slow your computer down because it ONLY uses spare power. Like, if your using a program that uses 99% of your power, the folding program only uses 1 percent of it.

P.S- folding a protien can take a long time. My emac 1.25GHz takes about 2.5 days to fold one. C'mon! some mod or admin should make a team and make a link to our site on the team page so people know we are helping to cure cancer!

709

2004-08-30, 15:02

Actually, i've been folding for a while for Team MacOSX (http://teammacosx.homeunix.com/).As do I. I think I joined up right around the time you did...though I haven't nearly the firepower. (I'll be breaking 30,000 points tomorrow, though) :)

usurp

2004-08-30, 15:09

what team number should i use?

LoCash

2004-08-30, 15:15

If someone wants to step up and create an Apple Nova team, that would be great. Doesn't really matter who, just whoever wants to do it, and we'll link to it from the site.

Zodiac

2004-08-30, 16:23

I just made Team AppleNova.

The number is 39160.

xionja

2004-08-30, 17:54

hell yeah, i've been part of the Mac OS X team for a year or so i think i'm ranked somewhere in the 500's for the team right now. fun stuff.

How do i switch my team to applenova, this is a cool idea.

onlyafterdark

2004-08-30, 18:39

Ya info on how to sign up for the team would be great. This sounds like a really good idea.

edit: Also, what kind of bandwidth does it take up? (ie: is it uploading information to the internet at all times or does it wait until it is done a specific task before it uploads?)

alcimedes

2004-08-30, 18:49

This link (http://teammacosx.homeunix.com/software.html) should give you access to the client. There are a few different versions. One is a screensaver, which is the normal client. The second link there is a background process only. It runs all of the time, at the lowest priority. It won't use CPU cycles that other programs need, but will use all of the unused cycles.

The Increase.app program there will automatically enter team 1971 as your default folding preference. (since a team member wrote the app. and all)

Otherwise, just enter the team number of team AppleNova and away you go. Either way will work just fine, although I will say that Team MacOSX is in one of the top spots, and shooting for a top 10 overall place. :p

Although all competition (in fun) aside, it doesn't really matter who you fold for. Folding at all is what helps. The teams and stats are just to pique interest and keep people going, as folding isn't actually all that exciting. Your CPU just sits there and folds proteins in the background. However, unlike SETI, you're doing real work, right now, that will probably have real world results.

One note though, it's probably not a good idea to run it on a laptop at 100%, as it can cause heat problems. Just something to keep in mind.

NosferaDrew

2004-08-30, 23:16

I'm in. :)

Moogs

2004-08-30, 23:29

Ditto that.

onlyafterdark

2004-08-31, 04:18

Me too.

NosferaDrew

2004-09-01, 18:39

Hey, who's really in on this?
Only me and "anonymous" are showing up on the Team stats (http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=39160). :err:

DMBand0026

2004-09-01, 19:16

They probably joined the OS X team, not AN's team.

As for me, I'd be in, but this 12" isn't a big fan of heat to begin with and having the processor running @ 100% 24/7 would be a big negatory. That, and it might melt my nuts :\

_Ω_

2004-09-01, 20:18

How big are the downloads??

Zodiac

2004-09-01, 20:29

Hey, who's really in on this?
Only me and "anonymous" are showing up on the Team stats (http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=39160). :err:

i think anayanmous would be me. i think. i made the team and i dont even know if im on it! :D

alcimedes

2004-09-01, 20:48

the downloads depend on the protein they send you to fold. usually under 6MB.

although you download once, then fold for days, so it's not too noticeable, even on dial-up.

NosferaDrew

2004-09-01, 22:29

As for me, I'd be in, but this 12" isn't a big fan of heat to begin with and having the processor running @ 100% 24/7 would be a big negatory. That, and it might melt my nuts :\
My 12" iBook seems to handle it fine. :|

C'mon people! We're #8127! We'll catch Team MacOSX in no time! :lol:

_Ω_

2004-09-01, 22:32

i think anayanmous would be me. i think. i made the team and i dont even know if im on it! :D

If you are anon, your performace so far is lacklustre so say the least :p

:)

_Ω_

2004-09-01, 22:34

My 12" iBook seems to handle it fine. :|

C'mon people! We're #8127! We'll catch Team MacOSX in no time! :lol:

Have you done all your folding on the iBook? I am considering my PB, but it already has a few heat issues.

:)

NosferaDrew

2004-09-01, 23:53

It's been running for two days straight. The fan comes on once in a while, but that's no big deal.

I'm also using my PeeCee gaming rig - that's doing the bulk of the work, but as soon as the dual 2.5's get in supply, I'll use that and give my iBook a rest.

alcimedes

2004-09-02, 00:03

it takes a day or two for most machines to turn in units. it's fun once you fold for a bit, see where you're moving in the rankings. anyway, folding is a great way to have your computer do something worthwhile with its extra CPU cycles, and the most Mac users we have, the more the Stanford group will work to write mac specific engines.

Moogs

2004-09-02, 09:20

I was anonymous too (changed my name in prefs)...

Here's is the latest on my day or so of progress.

Name: p568_BBA5_N
Download time: August 31 19:27:25
Due time: September 10 19:27:25
Progress: 82% [||||||||__]

Zodiac

2004-09-02, 11:57

If you are anon, your performace so far is lacklustre so say the least :p

:)

I'm Sorry, but my only computer is an emac. :)

EmC

2004-09-02, 13:25

Question - does the OSX team keep my stats so far, and I start from zero with the new team? I moved over a few hours ago and am not showing up in the AN team stats yet... maybe they only update a few times a day.

I don't think previous stats transfer from team to team. I have my powerbook, my gaming rig, and my parents P4 laptop running. I just started today(10 minutes ago) though, we'll se where this goes.

Folding is much better than looking for aliens. link (http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/09/02/space.signals.reut/index.html)

Moogs

2004-09-02, 14:30

And on to the next protein I go... 11% done with that one already and I've had not much free cycles available today. :)

_Ω_

2004-09-02, 18:26

And on to the next protein I go... 11% done with that one already and I've had not much free cycles available today. :)

I have purposely stopped working so my machine can fold :lol:

Moogs

2004-09-02, 20:00

:D It's strangely addictive.

_Ω_

2004-09-03, 02:19

Moving up the rankings. Look out Team OSX :lol:

NosferaDrew

2004-09-03, 11:08

I am so tempted to load up F@H on the bank of G5's that we have here at work and let them crunch over the long weekend, but a couple of years ago when I was on the MacNN RC5 team I did something similar and my boss was not amused. :lol:

alcimedes

2004-09-03, 11:16

actually, unlike RC5 (cash reward) folding@home is for charity/research basically. you could run it by him, see what he thinks. it's always better to ask first before intsalling this kind of stuff.

Moogs

2004-09-03, 12:00

Damnit, Murbot is already ahead of me. He must be leaving his machine running idle with nothing but Folding active! Foul I say! All self-respecting folders just let the app run in the background while other useful things are being done.

This protein I'm working on now must be a big-ass mama as it's taking a lot longer than the last one did.

Moogs

2004-09-04, 22:51

On to Protein #3 (almost 30% done)... still haven't left my machine on all through the night though.

I looked at teh rankings and there are *several* Mac-centric teams on that list. MacAddict, MacNN, OS X, MacRumors and Apple themselves. We got some catching up to do people.

:)

Wrao

2004-09-04, 23:00

how long does it take a DP 2.0 g5 to fold a protein(average)?

Moogs

2004-09-04, 23:07

alcimedes

2004-09-04, 23:23

or they signed on with Team MacOSX. (#1 mac folding team. woo hoo).

no matter who you fold for, everyone wins though. it's best to always keep that in mind, for those (like me) who can get competitive.

xionja

2004-09-04, 23:29

I still can't figure out how to change my team from 'team mac os x' to 'team applenova'?

NosferaDrew

2004-09-05, 00:13

I still can't figure out how to change my team from 'team mac os x' to 'team applenova'?
Assuming you're on OS X:
- In the F@H app, go to preferences.
- Click the Identy tab and where it says Team Number, type in 39160

Our team number is 39160 and if you start folding for us, we will rule! :lol:

NosferaDrew

2004-09-05, 00:15

no matter who you fold for, everyone wins though. it's best to always keep that in mind, for those (like me) who can get competitive.
I know what you mean!
I saw Omega within 10 WU's of me and threw another processor into the fray. :)

NosferaDrew

2004-09-05, 00:19

Hard to say because I think some are more complex than others (?) and I never leave my machine idle for more than a half-hour or so. I have the version of the app that just runs in the background and sops up whatever processor cycles are available (low priority).

But when I shut all the other apps off and let it run in the foreground it seems to speed along pretty quick. I dunno... maybe a full protein could be done in 4-6 hours if I left it alone that long?

Guilt notice: some of you guys who signed up (?) must not have run the app for the first time because there are still only five people listed. We need more CPUs in action! :)
I've had some WU's take up to 18 hours - and that's with nothing else running.
Some are bigger (and take longer) than others, but it looks like that the size of your WU is taken into account from what I've been observing from my score.
I'm guessing that you get more points once you process a larger protein.

_Ω_

2004-09-05, 01:58

What's the deal if a WU does not get registered?

[19:21:44] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
[19:21:47] CoreStatus = 64 (100)
[19:21:47] Sending work to server
[19:21:47] + Attempting to send results
[19:22:08] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[19:22:08] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[19:22:08] (171.67.89.149:8080)
[19:22:08] - Error: Could not transmit unit 05 (completed September 4) to work server.
[19:22:08] Keeping unit 05 in queue.
[19:22:08] + Attempting to send results
[19:22:29] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[19:22:29] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[19:22:29] (171.67.89.149:8080)
[19:22:29] - Error: Could not transmit unit 05 (completed September 4) to work server.
[19:22:29] + Attempting to send results
[19:22:33] + Results successfully sent
[19:22:33] Thank you for your contribution to Folding@Home.
[19:22:33] + Number of Units Completed: 5

This was about 10 hours ago.......

In the top 6000 now!!!!

:lol:

cyrusmekon

2004-09-05, 02:52

Downlaoded the app, but i cant get it to work, anyone here have ideas??

Heres the log file

[07:49:23] - User name: cyrusmekon@yahoo.co.uk (Team 39160)
[07:49:23] - User ID = D8177CC1B60D726
[07:49:23] - Machine ID: 1
[07:49:23]
[07:49:23] Loaded queue successfully.
[07:49:23] + Benchmarking ...
[07:49:31] The benchmark result is 1153
[07:49:31]
[07:49:31] + Processing work unit
[07:49:31] Core required: FahCore_78.exe
[07:49:31] Core not found.
[07:49:31] - Core is not present or corrupted.
[07:49:31] - Attempting to download new core...
[07:49:31] + Downloading new core: FahCore_78.exe
[07:49:32] - Error: HTTP GET returned error code 407
[07:49:32] + Error: Could not download core
[07:49:32] + Core download error (#2), waiting before retry...

Tried several times, instal, reinstal etc etc. This happens with and without proxies. Anyone able to help?

Moogs

2004-09-05, 10:00

Hahaaa! Moogs passes Omega and Murbot for the #2 spot overnight. I sense much folding in my machine's future.

BTW, I left my machine running idle from shortly after my last post, till now (about 10 hours) and it folded two full proteins basically. So my 4-6 estimate seems about right, though who knows if I have downloaded one of those monsters Drew is talking about.

[Edit - holy shit, I think the one I'm working on now is a monster. I did the protein preview thing and it looks like a gigantic mass of bathtub bubbles. This one could take a while. Started what I think was an hour ago. Where is the server clock based? It can't be Stanford because I'm two hours ahead of them and it says it was downloaded on Sept 5 at 11:57 am... that would be Nova Scotia time or something. :lol:

staph

2004-09-05, 10:28

I still can't figure out how to change my team from 'team mac os x' to 'team applenova'?

See above for the GUI instruction; on the CLI all you need to do is add the argument -config, and reset any/all of the settings you feel like.

Btw: I'm in, although I probably won't show up for a few days.

-S

staph

2004-09-05, 10:38

Downlaoded the app, but i cant get it to work, anyone here have ideas??

This happens with and without proxies. Anyone able to help?

Are you actually behind a proxy server? If not, leave the setting off.

It might just be that the F@h servers are fubar atm � they occasionally crash and burn under the load. Just leave the app running and see if it eventually connects.

_Ω_

2004-09-06, 02:21

LoCash

2004-09-06, 02:52

If you're using a dual processor machine run InCrease instead of the fah client. It'll easily setup to run two processes to use both cpus.

staph

2004-09-06, 03:17

staph, are you EmC???

Big Credits, who ever it belongs too....

Currently churning out a monster - predicted finish in just under 2 days (already been going for 1)!!!

Closing in on the top 5000......

:)

Nope, EmC is EmC. I'm staph (honest!). I probably won't show up until around lunchtime tomorrow at the rate the current WU is going.

_Ω_

2004-09-06, 04:38

Nope, EmC is EmC. I'm staph (honest!). I probably won't show up until around lunchtime tomorrow at the rate the current WU is going.

My apologies EmC (http://forums.applenova.com/member.php?u=216)!!

Are you crunching on your TiBook or do you have other means :eek:

EmC

2004-09-06, 11:12

Are you crunching on your TiBook or do you have other means :eek:

Yes and yes. Although, it is hard to let my TiBook do it for so long it gets hot and it scares me and my nuts. I have a two desktops that I use for gaming and file serving running, and another P4 at the office crunching away over the weekend.

Moogs

2004-09-06, 11:40

Damn. My second place stature was short lived... Maybe I should get a second G5 dedicated to folding. :D

NosferaDrew

2004-09-06, 15:05

Nice to see we have new teammates.
The more the merrier.

Zodiac

2004-09-06, 15:55

My name will not show on the team page for some reason. I have the zodiac name and the number 39160 in the preferences but its not showing.

Moogs

2004-09-06, 16:03

May take a day or two to show up, as noted earlier.

alcimedes

2004-09-06, 18:58

i'm half tempted just to switch over to the AN team to bitch slap you all into place.

someone got a link for your stats? i'd like to see how you're coming along. i enjoyed watching our team (Team MacOSX) race to the top, might be fun to do it again. :D

_Ω_

2004-09-06, 19:04

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=39160

:p

windowsblowsass

2004-09-06, 19:05

stats are too slow ive finished 3 wu's not 1 bs i say bs

_Ω_

2004-09-06, 19:10

I believe the long weekend might have had something to do with it....

NosferaDrew

2004-09-06, 19:41

i'm half tempted just to switch over to the AN team to bitch slap you all into place.
Bring it on! :p

Although, with 14+ processors compared to my puny little 3, it wouldn't be much of a contest.
I think I'll dig my old 7100/80AV out of the closet for more firepower!
Hey, can folding run on a Newton? :lol:

NosferaDrew

2004-09-06, 19:42

My name will not show on the team page for some reason. I have the zodiac name and the number 39160 in the preferences but its not showing.
Not sure why that's happening.
Maybe toss the app and reinstall? :confused:

_Ω_

2004-09-06, 23:46

stats are too slow ive finished 3 wu's not 1 bs i say bs

Did you quit and restart the client? I think you need to do this for it to register the changes

xionja

2004-09-07, 17:20

Changed my team number, quit and restared the application, waited 2 days and I'm still not yet part of the team :( What to do?

LoCash

2004-09-07, 17:51

Changed my team number, quit and restared the application, waited 2 days and I'm still not yet part of the team :( What to do?
No girls allowed? ;)

thegelding

2004-09-07, 17:54

LoCash

2004-09-07, 18:01

Download "InCrease" and run that program. Just remember to edit the preferences to your username and team number 39160

_Ω_

2004-09-07, 19:45

For those people who are having trouble, what do your logs says?

Should be located in your home directory/library/folding and be called fahlog.txt.

It should tell you what is happening when it is being sent back to base. Though I am using a PC for my folding, so I am not sure what happens on a Mac.

:)

_Ω_

2004-09-08, 21:26

so i can do this with my computer connected to cable modem through my airtunes basestation with a firewall??

if so, yeah you can use my extra cycles

g

ok, next time read thread first...

will join today...

which should i run
graphic
screensaver
or text?

Looks like you popped up yesterday. What version did you end up choosing? I am using the GUI myself though it does not have much in the way of options.

......and closing in on top 4000..... :lol:

NosferaDrew

2004-09-09, 01:01

I've been using the 5.02 beta for several days now with no problems.

Get it here (http://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?t=9127) if you'd like to try it out.

Wickers

2004-09-09, 01:07

I've committed a compter at my work to do this in it's spare time...

So fold on you P2 333mhz beast!

(haha! it estimates a good 10 days until WU compleation.)

PS. If I ever beat someone with this monster of a folding computer... you sould hang you head in shame...

_Ω_

2004-09-09, 01:18

You might want to select the option to have WU's with no deadlines in the preferences or else you might struggle to complete on time....

;)

_Ω_

2004-09-09, 01:21

I've been using the 5.02 beta for several days now with no problems.

Get it here (http://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?t=9127) if you'd like to try it out.

Any idea what the benefits are??? I am currently using 4 on my PB (and it is painfully slow.....)

NosferaDrew

2004-09-09, 02:05

Preformance wise, I don't think anything's changed.

Here's a short list of what's new since 5.0:
5.02 New Stuff:
1. command line parameters are used.

5.00 New stuff:
Add - Big packets" setting
Add - checkpoint interval
Add - WU type - no preference/standard/no-deadline
Fix - Logs are no longer deleted every run by the GUI.

And all the rest of the 5.00 stuff of course :)

My little iBook has been chugging away for almost three days on this one protein! (It's p265_h2o or "Insights into Nucleic Acid Conformational Dynamics from Massively
Parallel Stochastic Simulations") Yikes!

Have you guys ever looked up the protein descriptions? :eek:
Deep stuff! Check out the list here (http://vspx27.stanford.edu/psummary.html).

thegelding

2004-09-09, 07:03

i'm using InCrease...

downside is i don't get a visual of the process

oh well, anything for science

g

Moogs

2004-09-09, 09:28

Hey the one I downloaded was 4.0... I might have more WUs racked up by now! Kidding. :) Is this an official beta? There is nothing listed on Stanford's beta page for OS X AFAICT; everything is still at 4.0

_Ω_

2004-09-09, 09:40

I just downloaded the gui from the forum thread. Quit the v4 I was running and then started 5.02. Picked up where v4 left off (90% and two days...)

Looks the same except a few more options....

NosferaDrew

2004-09-09, 23:03

Is this an official beta? There is nothing listed on Stanford's beta page for OS X AFAICT; everything is still at 4.0
Yes, it's in the official forums in the OS X thread.

It should be showing up soon on the download page.
This from Beberg (The coder of the Pande Group):
I've asked the crew to post 5.02 as a general release...

I think everyone is away this week tho..

NosferaDrew

2004-09-10, 11:35

Congrats to the team:
http://homepage.mac.com/drew1/.Pictures/100.jpg

Team AppleNova is ranked #3700 and climbing! :)

alcimedes

2004-09-10, 11:50

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/awards/tcert.php?u=1971&pts=372417&t=wus&bg=4

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=alcimedes&pts=3145&t=wus&bg=3

:p

windowsblowsass

2004-09-10, 11:58

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/awards/tcert.php?u=1971&pts=372417&t=wus&bg=4

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=alcimedes&pts=3145&t=wus&bg=3

:p
you get off on this shit dont you :lol: :lol:

709

2004-09-10, 12:00

i'm using InCrease...

downside is i don't get a visual of the process

oh well, anything for science

gThe visualizations were nice for me at first, but I began to feel like they were eating up too much CPU power, and the little animations took to long to change. :\

Now I use InCrease on all my machines. The real advantage to InCrease is that you can set it up to use both processors on a dual proc Mac. The other programs offered up are not dual aware IIRC.

InCrease really is a nice little app.

[edit] Oh, and:

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=709&pts=808&t=wus&bg=3

:D

NosferaDrew

2004-09-10, 12:04

Heh, that's OK. Let him gloat.

I dig a good challenge. :)

Moogs

2004-09-10, 14:51

I certify that my work units are better than your work units.

:D

Moogs

2004-09-10, 21:51

BTW, my stats are fubar now. I've been stuck on 411 and 7 WU for the last couple proteins I think. Maybe it's my browser not refreshing or something.

NosferaDrew

2004-09-10, 23:04

Have you restarted or at least restarted the app?

I've had a similar thing happen where it says it's working, but it's really not.
Quit then restarted the app and everything was good again.

_Ω_

2004-09-11, 07:55

Moogs

2004-09-11, 08:46

Another thing to do is to look at your logs - if you are still on v4 cut and paste this into another document as I think it get deleted when you restart the app. This has supposedly been fixed in v5.02.

You should be able to see what server you sent your results too, and if it was successful. You can then go to the forum and ask for confirmation - though it might be wise to check the server status first....

And here I thought I was "dominating" you :p

:)

Awe shite... I tried 5.02 for a bit and went back to using 4. Must've screwed up my log file or something. Is all my work lost? AFAICT tell from my "work folder", I'm on unit 9 and things seem to be intact. My score should be close to Murbot I guess... what should I do? If I move to 5.02 will it revamp my stats page? I'll post on the folding forum meantime just to see what answers I get.

_Ω_

2004-09-11, 09:07

My guess is that they should still be able to track your submissions, as long as you give them enough details.

This should hopefully be enough information
[06:01:49] - User name: Omega (Team 39160)
[06:01:49] - User ID = 1F3FEB4B5486BED2
[06:01:49] - Machine ID: 1

Any reason for reverting back to v4?

Moogs

2004-09-11, 09:09

Ironically, I just wanted to keep using non-beta so my stats didn't get messed up. :p

Zodiac

2004-09-11, 13:15

I'm 80% done my first WU for the applenova team(It's HUGE!)

Moogs

2004-09-11, 14:25

Cool. Meantime, seems like when I first ran 5.02 I might've reformatted my support files somehow... and there are no suggestions immediately forthcoming so screw it. I went to 5.02 and replaced the old version. After a restart seems I didn't lose the 77% of (what I believe to be) WU 9, but I'm only going to get credit for 8 as it goes through I think.

Oh well, main thing is to help the cause. I'm going to submit a feature request of being able to close the damn "view protein" window once you're done with it. AFAICT the only way to get rid of it (and free up the processor cycles required to display it) is to quit the app.

NosferaDrew

2004-09-11, 14:58

Do you really think that displaying the protein takes up that many cycles?
I never thaought of that as being very processor intenstive.

I just minimize it.:confused:

Moogs

2004-09-11, 16:37

Well, if you're displaying stuff like the stick and ball models or the space filled, it constantly rotates and updates the protein, so I'm sure it takes up *some* horsepower. The main point being not that I don't like the window but that there's no reason to disable the Close Window widget; that way when you walk away from the computer the client gets 100% of the available cycles. I think mimimizing it wouldn't stop the machine from computing the protein updates, etc (so that when you maximize it it's showing the current progress state).

NosferaDrew

2004-09-11, 18:45

I see what you're saying and I agree.

I'm wondering when the Mac version will display the same info as the PC version and give you the same options:
http://homepage.mac.com/drew1/.Pictures/folding.jpg

Wickers

2004-09-11, 23:27

Just wondering...

Just how big is your current WU file (uncompressed)???

Mine is 1768165 (bytes?) large.

_Ω_

2004-09-11, 23:39

I just got this a few minutes ago....

[04:30:40] - Expanded 127886 -> 694597 (decompressed 543.1 percent)

but I have also had

[09:43:04] - Expanded 325536 -> 1760809 (decompressed 540.8 percent)
[18:35:28] - Expanded 137092 -> 652001 (decompressed 475.5 percent)
[19:41:57] - Expanded 196359 -> 956965 (decompressed 487.3 percent)
[21:31:30] - Expanded 209424 -> 1004221 (decompressed 479.5 percent)

EDIT: Looks like we are about to break into the top 10% of teams.... :)

NosferaDrew

2004-09-11, 23:55

Just wondering...

Just how big is your current WU file (uncompressed)???

Mine is 1768165 (bytes?) large.
That one above is "Expanded 1289857 -> 6672285 (decompressed 517.2 percent)"

And just who is cudaboy_71?
7 processors, huh?

You are going to force me to up the ante! :)

_Ω_

2004-09-12, 09:35

I'm 80% done my first WU for the applenova team(It's HUGE!)

Welcome zodiac, good to see you finally made it!! :)

And murbot, you were meant to be my bitch :mad:

:lol:

alcimedes

2004-09-12, 09:43

it's fun for me to goad people into doing more work on a project like F@H. the more the merrier.

murbot

2004-09-12, 11:03

Welcome zodiac, good to see you finally made it!! :)

And murbot, you were meant to be my bitch :mad:

:lol:

You're going to brag about being able to beat up on my crippled old PC? lol

Zodiac

2004-09-12, 11:32

Welcome zodiac, good to see you finally made it!! :)

Horray! I was never on the list until I finished my first WU( It was huge and took a week or so) :)

DMBand0026

2004-09-12, 13:40

You're going to brag about being able to beat up on my crippled old PC? lol

It's only crippled because you turn the fans off in order to kill it. ;)

xionja

2004-09-12, 14:58

oh boy! I made it :)

Zodiac

2004-09-12, 21:01

Alright the threads a sticky! I can't believe I did something contributing enough for this! I feel so proud. :D

Wickers

2004-09-12, 23:48

I'm almost there...

I killed off the work computer... it was too slow. (another 8 days until WU compleation) I switched it's job to something more usefull of such a slow computer. . . it's now the shop's jukebox.

But I refuse to let my name not be on the list... so I setup a client on my home computer... and in only 12 hours I am about to finish my first WU. YaY!

But that's not all... if all goes acording to plan, I will have a dual P3 1ghz folding at my work in a few weeks. It just needs some more ram and a good server case...

I won't be in the top 5 of our team... but I still wish to help where I can.

NosferaDrew

2004-09-13, 01:39

I love your dedication to the team \/\/ickes!
Thank you.

Also, thank you zodiac for starting this thread and this group effort!

Welcome xionja, glad you are finally aboard.

_Ω_

2004-09-13, 03:05

And just who is cudaboy_71?
7 processors, huh?

You are going to force me to up the ante! :)

cudaboy_71 is the guy who is going to spank you if you don't fold faster!!

Closing in on the top 3000 teams......

:)

Wickers

2004-09-13, 08:25

Haha... my name on the stats page is '//ickes'. Lousy '\' not showing up.

Zodiac

2004-09-13, 21:28

Closing in on the top 3000 teams...... :)

And we are there! :)

cudaboy_71

2004-09-13, 21:48

;)

NosferaDrew

2004-09-14, 00:46

Oh ho!
My nemesis appears! :)

_Ω_

2004-09-14, 03:21

Oh ho!
My nemesis appears! :)

Did you feel threatened by his smily face? You know what they say about people who smile too often....

:) <----evil maniacal smile

NosferaDrew

2004-09-14, 08:29

Heh.

Actually, I feel threatened by the seven processors that he has at his disposal.

I'll be getting a dual 2.5Ghz G5 soon - that will definitely help me and the team, but I'm also thinking about building a dedicated folding box to free up my other machines.

LoCash

2004-09-14, 17:12

Nova fah team stats now on front end. Enjoy.

709

2004-09-14, 17:32

That's super cool, Jack. Very nice. :)

You guys are starting to make me rethink my Team affiliation....

Zodiac

2004-09-14, 18:00

Nova fah team stats now on front end. Enjoy.

Can the letters be a little darker? I can barely see them and didn't notice them until I read post this a half hour after it was made.

Gargoyle

2004-09-14, 18:04

darker than black!?!

LoCash

2004-09-14, 18:35

THank Gargoyle, he wrote the Mambo module and associated scripts to collect and display team data on the front end :)

and the letters are all black, I don't know how you can't see them. I run a 1600x1024 resolution on a 17" widescreen display and I can read them fine... without my glasses.

cudaboy_71

2004-09-14, 19:09

windowsblowsass

2004-09-14, 19:11

Did you feel threatened by his smily face? You know what they say about people who smile too often....

:) <----evil maniacal smile
yes but what do they say about those who use rolls eyes smilies to often hmm...

709

2004-09-14, 19:29

yes but what do they say about those who use rolls eyes smilies to often hmm...The same thing they say about those who don't use any capitalization or punctuation...

:p

:D

Quagmire

2004-09-14, 19:52

Ok, I have a few questions.

1. Will it reduce the life of my pbooks CPU?

2. If I choose to download which client should I do?(grpahical client. screensaver, or text console)

3. Alcimedes, by what you meant by not running pbook at 100%, did you mean not running it 24/7?

4. Just for clarification I can run it whenever I want right?

Zodiac

2004-09-14, 20:13

Gargoyle

2004-09-15, 03:25

Eeeuhhhh, yellow on white!!! I can understand the question now. :D

Mac+

2004-09-15, 04:22

I joined up - but I only have a lowly Ti550 so this could take a while. :rolleyes:

btw - what happens if I want to take my PB with me to Uni - disconnecting from the 'net. Will this be OK?

TIA. :)

_Ω_

2004-09-15, 04:52

1. Will it reduce the life of my pbooks CPU?

My guess is yes, but minimal. I would say you are more likely to do damage by moving your PB around the place....

2. If I choose to download which client should I do?(grpahical client. screensaver, or text console)

I have the graphical client going - this runs constantly so will ge the best folding results. It may however slow you down slightly, and I mean slightly as CPU cycles are reallocated. Screensaver will mean it will only run when you are definately doing nothing on your machine. Use the console if you are terminal whizz.

3. Alcimedes, by what you meant by not running pbook at 100%, did you mean not running it 24/7?

I am guessing he meant that you can (I think) set it so that the machine will not use all the available CPU, and will leave some "spare". This will help reduce the amount of heat.

4. Just for clarification I can run it whenever I want right?

The moment you sleep folding stops. You can quit folding and it will revert to its last save point. You can set this from between 3-30mins in the preferences. If I know I am going to shutdown my machine I wait for a milestone before shutting down (especially if the WU's are large)

Join the "team", you know you want to! :)

DISCLAIMER: All the above could be complete arse. No effort has been made to ensure it is true. Use the advice at your own risk! :p

_Ω_

2004-09-15, 04:57

what happens if I want to take my PB with me to Uni - disconnecting from the 'net. Will this be OK?

It only needs to connect to send and receive WU's. I have got my 667 folding and it is rarely connected while at work.

I am not sure what happens if it is not connected. Whether it keeps on trying until a connection is made, or stops after 'x' amount of attempts not sure. My guess is the former. If the later I would assume that a simple restart of the folding app will get to try again.

The amount of time it will take will be determined by the protein type (tinkers are bad for macs) and by the size. You can find out how much each WU is worth in the website. I am taking between 1-3 days on average.

:)

ps Read my disclaimer above :p

NosferaDrew

2004-09-15, 10:13

heh...i just unwrapped a dual 2.0ghz G5 :smokey: is that 8 or 9 procys? gotta read up on how to use bof'um.
Damn you! :mad:
Congrats on your new machine. :)

You can use InFold (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/24286) or InCrease (http://teammacosx.homeunix.com/software.html) to help your dualie fold faster.

_Ω_

2004-09-15, 10:36

Damn you! :mad:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Closing in on top 2500......

cudaboy_71

2004-09-15, 15:34

Damn you!
Congrats on your new machine.

You can use InFold or InCrease to help your dualie fold faster

thanks. but, one of those is a dead link (at least when i tried), and the other is only a monitor.

i dug around a bit, and running the CLI isnt difficult at all...just not as simple as doubleclicking an icon :/

s/b at 10 processors now....heheh

Brad

2004-09-15, 15:50

Oh, what the heck... I guess it doesn't show good "team spirit" if I'm not reporting units for AppleNova. :p I'll click mine over to team 39160 in a bit.

I'll just be using my old Dual 500, though. I'm not going to be using my new PowerBook for this just yet except maybe for the few hours of the day that I'm plugged in at home.

Brad

2004-09-15, 16:06

one of those is a dead link (at least when i tried), and the other is only a monitor.

i dug around a bit, and running the CLI isnt difficult at all...just not as simple as doubleclicking an icon :/
The link still isn't working; so, I've zipped up the version of InCrease that I had installed on my Mac. It's a little old at 1.0.1, but it certainly gets the job done regardless.

*snip*
See next post!

I would strongly advise using InCrease over the CLI version because it makes the folding processes much easier to configure and automatically starts up a second instance to take advantage of multiple CPUs.

Here's a reminder of the step-by-step process:

Launch InCrease. It'll say it's not properly installed yet.
Click the Install button in the toolbar.
Once it's installed the folding module, click Preferences. Set any options you want under the InCrease tab. Click the Clients tab, and change your name and team number. Click Apply Now and Close.
Quit and relaunch InCrease (the team change doesn't appear to take immediate effect).
Start folding!

Brad

2004-09-15, 16:36

Thanks to our good member Omega, the latest version of InCrease is available here:

http://www.applenova.com/InCrease_v1.2.2.zip

Thanks, Big O! :D

cudaboy_71

2004-09-15, 22:14

muchas gracias.

Moogs

2004-09-17, 09:23

Hey, under the Preferences, if you select "Standard" does that mean you're getting the wimpy proteins all the time? My WU are jumping up but my points are not. Should I do "no preference" with the G5?

Also, I assume the polygon count thing and the checkpoint frequency have nothing to do with the WU that are downloaded, only how they're displayed, right?

thegelding

2004-09-17, 09:57

anybody have the previous version of increase...my iMac FP screen is locking at sleep now and i think it may be the new version of increase (or something else that i am stupidly doing)

thought i would revert to the old version and see if i have any problems

thanks

g

709

2004-09-17, 10:33

g -

All previous versions of Increase are here (http://calxalot.homeip.net/downloads/Versions/InCrease/) (the author's website).

[edit] Well, they would be there if his site was working... I've got v1.0 backed up if you want to try it. PMe.

Brad

2004-09-17, 11:08

When I get home this afternoon, I'll see if I still have the 1.0.1 version on hand and will post it if so.

Moogs

2004-09-17, 14:03

This is retarded. I've gotten like 60 pts for my last 3 proteins. lol

_Ω_

2004-09-17, 15:48

We also have a few new members.....

Welcome johnd and autodata

:)

xionja

2004-09-18, 12:14

haha, I tried to set up another computer using my screen name for the team, but it created another xionja . . . now i can pit my two computers against eachother

Brad

2004-09-19, 05:33

anybody have the previous version of increase...As promised, albeit a little late, here's the older 1.0.1 version:

http://www.applenova.com/InCrease_v1.0.1.zip

Quagmire

2004-09-19, 16:57

Ok, I have my Pmac G4 at 400Mhz( this is going to take forever to fold 1 protein) folding. On the 2nd box below the spacefilled box with options, it says,"Benchmarking..."What does that mean? As soon as I open the program it starts folding right? The only thing I have to do is enter team number and my name right?

_Ω_

2004-09-19, 17:22

Benchmarking occurs when you first start folding. It is normal. After awhile it will start "folding".

And yes, name and number is all you have to do - unless you want to also put it in your start-up items......

Closing in on top 2000 teams....and murbot you WILL be my bitch mawhahaha!

:)

EmC

2004-09-20, 11:09

Congrats to NosferaDrew, on 100+ WU, AND we broke into the top 2000. Woot.

NosferaDrew

2004-09-20, 14:12

EmC

2004-09-20, 14:55

That first site is great, they have a lot of extra info there. I like being able to see how we are moving in the rankings. Apparently we have moved up 106 spots in 24 hrs.

Pretty sweet you guys.

Quagmire

2004-09-20, 15:17

Yeah, I am offically folding. :D But, I have to scream at my Pmac. 4% complete after 2 days. You slow piece of G4(strokes G5 that will replace it hopefully next year).

_Ω_

2004-09-20, 18:25

Looks like Mr 709 joined the team as well :)

Undertaker - what protein are you folding? 4% in 2 days is veeeerrrryyy slow.

Quagmire

2004-09-20, 18:46

Looks like Mr 709 joined the team as well :)

Undertaker - what protein are you folding? 4% in 2 days is veeeerrrryyy slow.

I am currently working on p724-Abeta21. It is currently at 6.4%. I need to get it to at least 12% by the end of the day to have this protein done in 2 weeks. So I am looking at 10% per day.

EDIT: I wonder how fast this would of been on my 1 Ghz pbook. Here are my specs for my Pmac G4.

PowerPC G4 400 Mhz.

320 MB of ram.

20 GB HD(original one)

ATI Rage Pro 16 MB Vram.

Yeah, the system does kinda sucks. Stupid Moto.

NosferaDrew

2004-09-20, 19:17

I am currently working on p724-Abeta21.

That's a tough WU:
Projects 722-724

The aggregation of the Beta Amyloid peptide (Abeta, also known as Alzheimer's peptide) is thought to be responsible for nerve cell death in Alzheimer's Disease. Understanding what causes these peptides to aggregate could help scientists direct their search for possible drugs that can cure or at least relieve the symptoms of Alzheimers.

http://www.stanford.edu/~vvishal/research/p722.jpeg

These are tetramer simulations (picture above), simulating four Abeta chains in explicit water, studying how they come together and what the tetramer looks like. These are amongst the most demanding WUs so far because of the large system size. There have been some technical problems with the WU but with the help of the feedback from folders on beta, we have narrowed down the possible causes and hopefully P724 will not have any problems.

Quagmire

2004-09-20, 19:31

That's a tough WU:

I get a system demanding protein. While my system is crap. I better get higher then murbot on my score on my first one protein. :D

_Ω_

2004-09-20, 19:40

On my 667 Ti with 1 giggly-bite of RAM I have folded two of these babies.

First took 36 hours, the second 51.

It is worth 63 points :lol:

NosferaDrew

2004-09-20, 20:45

hAHa. I just checked my little iBook and I have the same damn protein! :)
I'm at 40%. Can't wait to get those 63 points!

My two other machines are working on p112_p678_L939_K12M_355K.
Upside: Both of those will total 484 points.
Downside: One is due to finish in 17 hours, the other in 21 hours. :lol:

I'll be ordering my dual 2.5 G5 next week, I think. That'll help the team a bunch.

Quagmire

2004-09-20, 20:49

I'll be ordering my dual 2.5 G5 next week, I think. That'll help the team a bunch.

You will pull into a huge lead with that monster. This person that will beat you would have to find a way to put 4 2.0 Ghz G5's in there Pmac.

NosferaDrew

2004-09-20, 21:17

Nah, cudaboy's probably going to pass me soon. His new dual 2Ghz has given him a great jump in performance in the past week or so.

I just want the team to rock.
We need more peeps!

_Ω_

2004-09-20, 21:58

Thanks and Yay me! :)

Looks like the stats differ between ExtremeOverclocking (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=39160) (we're #1884) and F@H (http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=39160) (#1914).

Interesting.

Looks like EOC only starts tracking teams in the top 2000 as we only came onboard in the last two days. The Team overtake page is not too accurate at the moment. We should monster a few of those teams within the day, not 3 like predicted

:)

johnd

2004-09-21, 04:19

Thanks for the welcome!

Last night I added my wife's new 12" PB, supplementing my dual 2.0 G5. :)

Is it worth adding a Pismo and B&W?

Go Team!

John

_Ω_

2004-09-21, 04:59

Thanks for the welcome!

Last night I added my wife's new 12" PB, supplementing my dual 2.0 G5. :)

Is it worth adding a Pismo and B&W?

Go Team!

John

Looks like you are punching them out quite nicely ;)

Every little bit helps, but you might want to consider changing the setting to "No Deadlines".

Top 1000 here we come......weeeeeee :smokey: :smokey: :smokey: :smokey:

autodata

2004-09-21, 09:03

I just added two more machines at work. They are all dulls, though, but new ones. 3 GHz or something. I'll probably add one or two more today.

709

2004-09-21, 09:20

Looks like Mr 709 joined the team as well :)
Yeah, I thought I might pull in a few WUs for the team. :) It might be a while before points start accumulating, as my other machines are currently on units for Team MacOS X.

Quagmire

2004-09-21, 18:32

Nah, cudaboy's probably going to pass me soon. His new dual 2Ghz has given him a great jump in performance in the past week or so.

I just want the team to rock.
We need more peeps!

Add a gig of ram to your 2.5 Ghz G5 and you will be taking the lead back. Heck max it out at 8 GB.

PS: I am at 16.8%. Stupid 400 Mhz Moto G4. Where is my IBM G4? :p

NosferaDrew

2004-09-22, 00:06

I'm ordering it next week. Who knows when I'll actually get it.
But I already have 2Gigs of RAM sitting here ready to go. :)

cudaboy_71

2004-09-22, 16:51

im across the country right now at a trade show in south florida.

there's a gig of ram sitting on my desk back at the office just *waiting* to start getting abused.

also, there's a b/w G3 400 that just got retired. its got os9 on it at the moment. but, it will soon be an osx music server/folding bitch.

man, i wanna go back home.

on the other hand, 9 of the processors running are doing nothing but folding while im gone. my 12" pb with me on the trip is seeing limited time tho.

Wickers

2004-09-23, 00:14

cudaboy_71,

Man, I'd hate to have to pay that hydro bill. . . gawh!

(EDIT: Sorry, 'hydro' is what we here in Central/Southern Ontario call electricity. The nick name comes from 'hydro-electric' -- think dams and rivers -- which is how most of our electricity is generated.)

NosferaDrew

2004-09-23, 01:55

I just found something interesting over on the Folding forums (http://forum.folding-community.org/index.php):
Posted by Ohairy1:
I run the CLI in all cases, usually from pen/thumb drives, and use -local on all of them. My OS is 10.3.4. Last time I tried to run 3 the OS also informed me that the core was already running on both CPUs.

He folds from a pen drive because:
I can tell the hard drives to sleep as much as they want. Makes for a quieter house when the only thing running on the older iMacs is the CPU.
Less power used too, like 5 watts a box.

There's a great way to save some hydro. :D

Wickers

2004-09-23, 02:24

:lol:

Wow, a whole 5 watts. . . considering your computer is pushing far more watts then it would while idle, 5 does not make that much difference.

However, I do like the idea of a pen drive. . . which gives me an idea. . .

(hmm... well maybe on an old iMac (like pre-slot-loading CRT) the 5 watts would make a slight difference. . . but folding a WU on such a Mac just might kill the poor thing. . . hehe. . )

Anyway, the idea is related to one of my jobs. . . I am a computer tech at a small computer shop here in Toronto, when a speedy computer is in for repair or being prepaired for sale, I try to put them through a few hours of FAH. ... for 'testing'. ..
Now with a pen drive. . .they can work on the same WU. . . thus knocking off a few WUs for our team whenever I can.

So far one of my WUs was done on someone else's computer that was in for repair. . .

:)

Moogs

2004-09-23, 08:21

My ranking only improves between Thurs and Sunday, then it drops off because I'm usually not around. When's that dual processor aware GUI client coming? I think that will substantially boost our team scores....

NosferaDrew

2004-09-24, 23:51

Congrats to cudaboy for briefly taking the No.1 spot.
http://homepage.mac.com/drew1/.Pictures/cuda.jpg

He closed the gap between us quickly and will definitely be in the lead by this weekend. Nice folding!

Also, we've moved into the top 1500 teams, currently at 1479.
http://homepage.mac.com/drew1/.Pictures/TeamRank1479.jpg

Go Team!

Moogs

2004-09-25, 00:45

Kicking ass and taking names, I'd say.

NosferaDrew

2004-09-25, 04:10

I told a friend that I was 'folding" and she sent me this link:
elite folding (http://www.jengajam.com/r/shirt-folding)
Beware, it's WMV.

Cool party trick! (well, once maybe).
I laughed very hard, but that may just be the Guinness. :D

cudaboy_71

2004-09-25, 09:33

wow! just got back from florida and my boys have been kickin' ass.

helps when all the cycles are going toward folding. things will probably slow down a bit now.

Luca

2004-09-25, 10:36

Just joined up. I'll have two powerful machines crunching away almost 100% of the time: a 1.33 GHz PowerMac G4 and a 2.0 GHz Athlon XP 2400+. They're connected via a KVM and an ethernet hub, so even when I'm doing stuff like playing a game, I'll still have one of the two running at full.

I expect to pass the other guys on our team shortly ;).

Moogs

2004-09-25, 11:10

Bastard! I want a dual-processor savvy client so I can at least keep up with the guys who have two single processor machines running all the time... :D

onlyafterdark

2004-09-25, 12:04

Seems like you guys are having a lot of fun with this, so I have decided to add my rev. a 12" PB to your worthy cause. Let the folding begin! :)

Luca

2004-09-25, 12:10

Bastard! I want a dual-processor savvy client so I can at least keep up with the guys who have two single processor machines running all the time... :D
Just run two instances of the client.

Moogs

2004-09-25, 12:45

[snip] short of using a Terminal trick how to you launch a second instance of an app in the same user session, when it's already running? Sounds stupid but I've never done that and double-clicking again doesn't do it....

Brad

2004-09-25, 12:46

Bastard! I want a dual-processor savvy client so I can at least keep up with the guys who have two single processor machines running all the time... :DRead up in the thread. Not only is InCrease ready for multiple processors "out of the box", we also have the bloody thing hosted on our AppleNova server here! :p

Moogs

2004-09-25, 12:48

Brad

2004-09-26, 00:22

I did glance at those comments, but isn't that a Terminal / Console dealy?

[installed... not sure I am doing this correctly. Seemed to have lost the 20% or so of the last protein I was working on. Hope it doesn't reset my fucking WU tally.

Anyway both processors seem to be going, using the recommended settings plus a couple changes to the preferences of when the app starts, quits, etc. If I select "start at boot time", I assume all it's doing is creating a startup item in my user account, right?]Well, I would normally say RTFM, but in this case InCrease barely comes with a manual! :lol:

Because InCrease installs its own client, whatever the last WU you were working on with a different client will be lost. If you want, I believe you can stop using InCrease and finish using your other client until that WU is finished, but I wouldn't bother unless it's a just huge unit on which you've invested a lot of time.

InCrease (nor any other client) will reset your official WU tally at Stanford. However, do be sure to set the preferences for your username and team number! You'll need to stop folding, quit, and restart InCrease for the user/team change to take full effect.

Something to keep in mind: InCrease is just a GUI interface for the command line clients. In order for the exclusion feature (pausing while certain other apps are running) to work, the InCrease application itself needs to be running. If you don't care about this feature, you can quit InCrease and the command line clients will keep on running happily in the background.

As for the "start folding at boot time" option, it does something a little sneaky. Rather than create and install an actual startup item, it saves the following cron job:

@reboot eval `defaults read InCrease RebootCommand` &

Luca

2004-09-26, 20:39

I installed the CLI client on my PC but when I exited out of it and opened it again, it lost all the work I had done on my first WU and started a new one. So I ditched that and instead used the graphical client, which seems to be working great.

The Mac is taking a lot longer. The PC started quite a bit later than the Mac, yet it has 101/400 done on the protein. The Mac is only up to 92/400. The protein they're working on is p112_p678_L939_K12M. Where do you look up those proteins? Because mine seems to be taking forever.

Brad

2004-09-26, 20:48

Project stats with credit values and deadlines:
http://vspx27.stanford.edu/psummary.html

HUGE page with project descriptions and images:
http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/allprojects

_Ω_

2004-09-26, 20:54

You will find that p112_p678_L939_K12M is actually p1124_p678_L939_K12M or p1125_p678_L939_K12M. It is a known mislabel of a protein.

If you look in the logs when it commences it will have the correct protein located in there (I think it is labeled parameters).

It is a Tinker, which are supposedly slow on Macs. I have only got them on my work PC (1.6Ghz), and from memory about 20 minutes per frame

For project summary:

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/psummary.html

NosferaDrew

2004-09-26, 21:28

Here's another good link for protein info (http://foldy.nozero.org/csv_reader.php)

Brad

2004-09-26, 21:35

Speaking of Tinker vs. Gromacs, if you are running the InCrease program, be sure in the preferences you have the client option "-advmethods" enabled. This increases the likelihood of getting the Gromacs proteins that process much quicker.

Luca

2004-09-26, 22:04

My PC (AMD 2400+, runs at 2.0 GHz) is doing frames in about 5 minutes. The Mac (1.33 GHz) is taking 20 minutes. If I were to get the graphical client for OS X, would I be able to select an option to increase the chances of getting Gromacs? Or do I have to use InCrease? I'm not Terminal-phobic at all, but excessive tinkering with stuff like this gives me a headache.

_Ω_

2004-09-26, 22:08

I have just gotten into work, and it was 12, not 20 as stated above..

As for the GUI version there is no option about what you can choose

_Ω_

2004-09-26, 22:11

Seems like you guys are having a lot of fun with this, so I have decided to add my rev. a 12" PB to your worthy cause. Let the folding begin! :)

How's your first fold going?

:)

onlyafterdark

2004-09-26, 22:34

How's your first fold going?

:)

5.25% done. :lol: But Im not running my laptop straight time. It will be a slow process but its kind of addicting in a weird way. But Im hooked, so Im in it for the long haul.

_Ω_

2004-09-27, 21:50

Anyone folded protein 295 on a mac?

I am looking at about 2 hours per percentage on my 667 TiBook, or about 8 days of folding.

It is worth 234 points.......

Brad

2004-09-27, 22:02

Anyone folded protein 295 on a mac?Actually, I just finished two of them. It took them about a week and a half on my dual 500 (one on each processor).

_Ω_

2004-09-27, 22:09

So I AM in the ballpark!

Just went to the forums and saw that a 2.4Ghz Celeron was taking about 55 mins/% so I guess it is not too bad.

And BIG POINTS for the team Brad! :)

InactionMan

2004-09-27, 22:11

Well, we've now got the ungodly power of my G3 iMac furiously folding. We'll be in the top 10 in no time! :p

NosferaDrew

2004-09-27, 22:23

That'll definitely rock us into the Top 1200! Nice! :P

Meanwhile, I ordered a G5 2.5 this morning and it should be folding for the team within 10 days.

Quagmire

2004-09-27, 22:45

That'll definitely rock us into the Top 1200! Nice! :P

Meanwhile, I ordered a G5 2.5 this morning and it should be folding for the team within 10 days.

Has apple solved the delay problem with the 2.5 Ghz G5's?

PS: I am at 49.6% on my first protein.

onlyafterdark

2004-09-27, 22:45

Man we are going to kick so much ass. Everyone will be like, wtf, where did they come from?

MCQ

2004-09-27, 23:30

Anyone folded protein 295 on a mac?

I am looking at about 2 hours per percentage on my 667 TiBook, or about 8 days of folding.

Working on one with my 1 GHz Albook... seems like 1-1.5 hrs/percent on mine. Haven't been letting it work on it continuously, so dunno when it'll be done.

NosferaDrew

2004-09-27, 23:53

Has apple solved the delay problem with the 2.5 Ghz G5's?
I'm guessing that they have.
I called my reseller(PowerMax (http://www.powermax.com/)) last Friday and they said that they had recently received a huge shipment from Apple that took care of almost all of their backorders.

On Friday, the guy said "10-14 days" and today he said, "Can you wait a week?", so I'm just waiting for the machine to arrive, then they'll ding my credit card.

Can't wait to finally use FCE on my 23". :)

thegelding

2004-09-28, 00:47

Anyone folded protein 295 on a mac?

I am looking at about 2 hours per percentage on my 667 TiBook, or about 8 days of folding.

It is worth 234 points.......

i just folded two also...took forever it seemed...did one (295), said "thank f@ck that is done...took forever", when i notice i was now doing 295p...shit...but lots of points for doing them....jumped me into the top 10 and have lots of points for only 13 WU

g

thegelding

2004-09-28, 15:27

shit...just gave me another 295p version...but on my iBook that i don't plan to leave on all the time...wonder how long this will take to fold?

g

Brad

2004-09-28, 16:06

Yikes! On an iBook? I seem to recall that Gromacs makes good use of the AltiVec unit on the G4. So, I'd put it at about a month. ;)

Wait... D'oh! I guess that depends on whether your iBook is of the G3 or G4 variety.

FFL

2004-09-28, 16:23

I'm in!
Better late than never... :D

_Ω_

2004-09-30, 20:17

Nice to see you made the stats (as well as cyrusmekon) :)

I sent an email to Jason of EOC to see if we can get out team members listed, but we have to wait a few more days as the magic number is top 1000.

I am also only 35% in for my p295. My poor Ti is not liking it one bit. :\

Quagmire

2004-09-30, 20:31

Welcome FFL. I am at 76.8% done. I will have to keep Pmac on all night to catch up with folding.

Luca

2004-09-30, 21:28

My Mac is FINALLY getting around to completing its first work unit. It has about 30 frames left, out of 400. The PC meanwhile has completed two work units and has about 90 frames left on its third. The unit is a complex one and it's obviously not optimized well for the G4.

Moogs

2004-09-30, 23:33

Killer!

Like the Chiefs, we rock.

Owns, OWWNNNS!

Moogs

2004-10-01, 10:13

NosferaDrew

2004-10-01, 21:33

It's looks like those 4 p928's that autodata had (91 pts. each) moved him past you.
It doesn't help that you've worked on 5 p568's - a whopping 23 pts each!

Hang in there. Our team is currently at 1106 (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=39160) and although out inertia is slowing a bit, my new dual 2.5Ghz should arrive next week and give us a good boost.

Moogs

2004-10-01, 22:00

Boost? You're already kicking most of our asses handily! :lol:

NosferaDrew

2004-10-01, 22:45

...give us a boost. Us - you, me and the team
(but then, cudaboy is kicking my ass and I can't have that). ;)

Moogs

2004-10-02, 08:58

Yah yah this is true you know... team first. We are making nice progress as a group I must say. We'll crack the top 1000 shortly. Who knows by year end we might be top 500. :)

autodata

2004-10-03, 01:19

Damnit, my placement is slipping. Just got passed by someone with fewer WUs and will probably get passed again. WTF? How come my WU don't get me the puntos? AFAIK I have the pref set to allow both simple and not simple downloads.
I'm watching you. You are just lucky my main work machine hasn't been running for the past couple of days since I've been playing hooky. :devil:

We'll make in into the top 1000 soon enough.

If only I didn't have all laptops at home. However, I will be getting a new linux box for my closet in the next day or two. It won't be much of a boost, but every little bit counts, right?

_Ω_

2004-10-03, 20:24

We just defeated the US NAVY (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_overtake.php?s=&t=39160) :lol:

(ranked about 1050)

(and damn you murbot :mad: )

_Ω_

2004-10-04, 00:37

I notice we have a new addition..... (http://forums.applenova.com/member.php?u=12)

:)

NosferaDrew

2004-10-04, 00:58

Nice!
Plus, we have an //ickes and, not one, but two! xionja's!

WE RULE!

MCQ

2004-10-04, 01:12

I notice we have a new addition..... (http://forums.applenova.com/member.php?u=12)

:)

:)

Took me a bit to get that first unit up. My PB is still chomping away at a p295... my Athlon 64 comp meanwhile just finished a p854. The p295 should be done in another day or two.

My PC didn't seem to like the graphical Folding client, so I switched over to the console to get it up and running.

_Ω_

2004-10-04, 02:12

The p295 should be done in another day or two.

Tell me about it - started mine on the 27th and still have 28% to go.......

:grumble:

staph

2004-10-04, 02:14

Crap, I just landed a p295, and it's taking 80 minutes per step. At this rate, I'll be finished in around 5 days�

thegelding

2004-10-04, 07:25

i have two that are "ready for upload" but haven't changed to "finished"...any command i can give to send these finished proteins off to stanford? hate to fold and then not send

thanks

g

Luca

2004-10-04, 07:39

I've had lots of problems with my Mac so it hasn't been working for the past day or so. It won't send units properly whether I use the command line or the graphical client. Or, it doesn't receive them. Something dumb like that. So my PC has been chugging along. It's doing a good job, I'm in the number 13 spot even with just six WUs completed. Got a bunch of 1125s worth over 200 points each.

johnd

2004-10-04, 10:17

My kids B&W has been working on a 581 for week and is 26% complete. Only 3 weeks to go for the 220 points. :lol: My G5 should complete two 582s early tomorrow after 3 days for a combined 554 points. :)

Luca

2004-10-04, 10:41

Heh... now I'm in the #12 spot, ahead of LoCash by 1.31 points ;). We should hit the top 1,000 soon. I'm also now in the top 100,000 users.

murbot

2004-10-04, 10:45

I'm coming after you, John.

:D

Wickers

2004-10-04, 11:26

Nice!
Plus, we have an //ickes and, not one, but two! xionja's!

WE RULE!

Hey, it's not my fault that the system can't use the '\' character.

I typed in \/\/ickes, and got //ickes. .. sigh.

Oh, BTW, I am taking a break from folding for then next little bit... but I'll be right back on when a worthy computer is around my work.

Brad

2004-10-04, 13:51

Hey, it's not my fault that the system can't use the '\' character.

I typed in \/\/ickes, and got //ickes. .. sigh. Aww, I was kind of hoping is was an homage to...

http://www.apple-history.com/images/models/IIplus.gif

Seriously, though, the name parser probably just saw the \ as an escape character. I wonder if you could do crazy stuff to the Folding project by sticking newlines and other odd characters in your name. :p

Naah...

Quagmire

2004-10-04, 13:52

How long does it take for your name to pop up after completing your first protein? I finished my first one 24 hours ago. Yes, it took me 13 days to do it.

Brad

2004-10-04, 14:15

What's your folding username?

Quagmire

2004-10-04, 14:18

What's your folding username?

Undertaker.

kretara

2004-10-04, 14:22

I just "signed up".
name: Kretara
currently working on Protein Name: p724_Abeta21
Machine: G5 Dual 2Ghz, 2GB Ram
Been running for about 15 minutes and am already .80% done. Yippeeee!

Quagmire

2004-10-04, 14:31

I just "signed up".
name: Kretara
currently working on Protein Name: p724_Abeta21
Machine: G5 Dual 2Ghz, 2GB Ram
Been running for about 15 minutes and am already .80% done. Yippeeee!

What!!!!! My Powermac took at least 1 hour to get .80% on that protein. Oh wait you have a dual G5 while I have a crappy Pmac G4 400 Mhz. Drools at the iMac G5 replacement in 1-2 years.

_Ω_

2004-10-04, 19:32

i have two that are "ready for upload" but haven't changed to "finished"...any command i can give to send these finished proteins off to stanford? hate to fold and then not send

thanks

g

I sometimes have problems starting a fold, but I just restart the GUI client and await to see what happens.

What are your logs saying?

_Ω_

2004-10-04, 19:34

How long does it take for your name to pop up after completing your first protein? I finished my first one 24 hours ago. Yes, it took me 13 days to do it.

What server was it assigned too? I think they had a few issues. Also make sure your FAH log has this:

User name: Undertaker (Team 39160)

_Ω_

2004-10-04, 19:39

The top 1000 is coming up. Currently we have 60925.2 and need 61,801.30.

We are talking a matter of a few hours.....

:)

Quagmire

2004-10-04, 19:46

What server was it assigned too? I think they had a few issues. Also make sure your FAH log has this:

User name: Undertaker (Team 39160)

What do you mean server it was assigned too. I am Undertaker folding for 39160.

_Ω_

2004-10-04, 20:48

In your logs it should have something like:

[02:56:18] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[02:56:18] + Attempting to get work packet
[02:56:18] - Connecting to assignment server
[02:56:19] - Successful: assigned to (171.67.89.152).

Though this is when you get the packet - I assume it attempts to send it back to the same server.

When a WU shuts down you should get something like this:

[02:55:00] Completed 500000 out of 500000 steps (100)
[02:55:00] Writing final coordinates.
[02:55:01] Past main M.D. loop
[02:56:01]
[02:56:01] Finished Work Unit:
[02:56:01] - Reading up to 1025520 from "work/wudata_04.arc": Read 1025520
[02:56:01] - Reading up to 0 from "work/wudata_04.xtc": Read 0
[02:56:01] goefile size: 0
[02:56:01] logfile size: 29434
[02:56:01] Leaving Run
[02:56:05] - Writing 1063678 bytes of core data to disk...
[02:56:05] ... Done.
[02:56:05] - Shutting down core
[02:56:05]
[02:56:05] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
[02:56:10] CoreStatus = 64 (100)
[02:56:10] Sending work to server

[02:56:10] + Attempting to send results
[02:56:14] + Results successfully sent
[02:56:14] Thank you for your contribution to Folding@Home.
[02:56:14] + Number of Units Completed: 24

thegelding

2004-10-04, 22:09

MCQ

2004-10-04, 23:19

whoa....anybody get a 582?? it is giving me a max of 78 days to complete (won't take that long....but)...

those 295 that get 234 points and take 6 days were only giving me a max of 65 days to complete

this must be a monster of a protein (looked it up...277 points will be mine in a week or so)

g

Yep, got one after an 854 :mad: But at least it's worth 277 points. So far, 35% done on it.

At least I haven't gotten a p1305... 634 points! That's gotta take quite a bit of time.

NosferaDrew

2004-10-05, 00:14

whoa....anybody get a 582??
Yeah, I have one of my AMD machines working on a p582 now.
I'm at 200 of 1000 frames completed, 3m 16s/frame - it'll be done in 1d 19h 31m. :lol:

In the coming weeks, I'll be changing my set up.
I should have my dual 2.5 by Thursday. That will fold 24/7 except when I need to edit audio/video.
I'm also building a dedicated dual Xeon folding box to take over for my two single proc AMD machines which I need for other purposes.

I've totally gotten the folding bug!
I'm buying a house in the near future and when I do I'll be setting up a folding farm like this:
http://members.cox.net/haysdb/Farm%20Box%202.JPG

or maybe I'll go low tech and make something out of an IKEA box like this guy did:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v149/ayt999/computers/IKEA%20cardboard%20box/PICT0061.jpg :)

Brad

2004-10-05, 00:20

I should have my dual 2.5 by Thursday. That will fold 24/7 except when I need to edit audio/video.Why stop then?

InCrease or a simple execution of the "renice" command can set the clients to the lowest priority so they won't affect anything else performance-wise. On my tower, I leave it folding 24/7, even when rendering 3D, editing video, or playing games. Everything else runs smoothly as the folding automatically takes a temporary back seat.

Thanks, Mac OS X, for your awesome thread scheduler!! :D

NosferaDrew

2004-10-05, 00:28

Why stop then?
That's true, I guess there's no reason to stop.
I'm running InCrease on my dual gig at work and it doesn't seem to affect my audio editing.

Thanks for the mind nudge.

Wickers

2004-10-05, 03:15

NosferaDrew,

Not that I don't want to see you take this team to new heights... but building a folding farm, while uber-cool, would gobble up power like nobody's business.

But on a lighter note... if only they would creat a threaded client for clusters... I'd so setup a OpenMosix cluster just for the task... (did one as a school project... it was fun.)

_Ω_

2004-10-05, 03:33

Not that I don't want to see you take this team to new heights... but building a folding farm, while uber-cool, would gobble up power like nobody's business.

That is why you plug it into the neighbours house, or run it at work ;)

EmC

2004-10-05, 05:49

We cracked the top 1000 sometime overnight. :)

Congrats to everyone. Let's keep it up.

Gargoyle

2004-10-05, 12:54

Yay. We get a better summary page. I might be able to do something better with the info box on the homepage.

Luca

2004-10-05, 13:10

Anyone know if it's possible to run F@h from a USB keychain drive? I just got one for free from my school and I tried downloading and running Folding from it, but it ended up putting all the data in the User folder anyway. Is it possible to set it up so I can run it from the flash drive and not have to worry about leaving partially-completed work units on every computer I use? I spend a fair amount of time in computer labs and I want to know how I can make the most of it.

While I'm at it, I should also install the Windows version and run that as well. I'm on PCs about as often as Macs when I'm using the campus computer labs.

Quagmire

2004-10-05, 14:09