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I'm considering building a gaming rig, a pc, as it were. However when looking across processors, I noticed that some Athalon 64's had FSB "integrated into chip." What exactly does this mean? and generally looking for gaming rig suggestions, specifically processor, mobo and vid card.
Here (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-500&depa=1) is the processor that got me thinking about this.
well that seems to be an error on newegg's part...
The chip does have it's HT (hyper transport) interface built on chip -- but hehe... all chips will have to have it's FSB interface built within the chip unless for some reason they feel the need to create a bridge chip which would be silly.
The athlon 64 is a great chip for gaming.
Just make sure it's a socket 939 -- not a 754.
Sh0eWax,
It is generally agreed upon in PC circles that for GAMING the Athlon 64 is the superior processor to the P4 (whereas the P4 bests the Athlon 64 in media creation and multitasking abilities). So for your purposes I would highly suggest the Athlon 64. And I agree with VVickes, the 939 pin Athlon 64 is the way to go - the 754 line has been ended (that is, no new CPU models will be created based on that pin array). Just make sure to get a 939-Pin motherboard.
Your CPU choice is a good one - plenty of overclocking room if you are so inclined. As far as video cards go - an Nvidia 6600GT is a good mid-ranged AGP-based video card (performance on par with an ATI X800Pro). If you prefer ATi their 9800Pro is a good mid-rance card to consider. PCIe video cards are not really an option at this point for AMD systems due to their being practically no PCIe motherbaords out (this will change in a month or two). Besides, there is no performance benefit at the moment in getting the same card utilizing a PCIe interface (the only real benefit is the upgrade path later on as AGP will be phased out as PCIe x16 is ramped up on motherboards in the Intel and AMD camps as well as in video cards in both the ATI and Nvidia camps.
I'd write more but I am bored and the wife is complaining.
With the current looks of things, this computer will have to wait a couple months as it is. Maybe until the beginning of summer, perhaps this was a little "preemptive threading" on my part.
However, does FBS affect performance greatly? And things are shaping up to the fact that I'd be buying top of the line equipments, but really, how long will that stay current with the way hardware is moving right now, is it worth the extra money to get top of the lin vid cards, and cpus?
With the current looks of things, this computer will have to wait a couple months as it is. Maybe until the beginning of summer, perhaps this was a little "preemptive threading" on my part.
However, does FBS affect performance greatly? And things are shaping up to the fact that I'd be buying top of the line equipments, but really, how long will that stay current with the way hardware is moving right now, is it worth the extra money to get top of the lin vid cards, and cpus?
Depends on the architecture of the CPU. As far as top of the line equipment, it's generally not worth it. You get very little incremental gain over the products that are one or two steps below, for an exponential price increase.
Gargoyle
2004-12-20, 03:59
Unless your like me and you just have to have the latest and greatest...
*Gargoyle strokes his PCI Express X800 card*
(Hmm maybe its time ti trade it in for a 850 ;) )
Depends on the architecture of the CPU. As far as top of the line equipment, it's generally not worth it. You get very little incremental gain over the products that are one or two steps below, for an exponential price increase.
Yeah, I sorta had that feeling. I guess come tax time I'll be scrounging up money for a pc.
What do you guys think of shuttle cases, I was thinking of putting the system in there, however am a little afraid of cooling issues. To me they (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=56-101-457&depa=0) are just cheap imitations of the cube.
Perhaps they meant on-die memory controller, rather than FSB ? The memory controller usually lives in the Northbridge; moving it to the CPU reduces latencies. Does the Athlon 64 have an on-die memory controller?
Perhaps they meant on-die memory controller, rather than FSB ? The memory controller usually lives in the Northbridge; moving it to the CPU reduces latencies. Does the Athlon 64 have an on-die memory controller?
That sounds familiar... would be my guess.
Shuttle cases are good, use one myself (the 85G4V2). Not particularly quiet (probably cause I have it folding 24/7 when it's on), but it's pretty fast, good little gaming cube.
A good place to look for SFF advice would be at Sfftech, especially the forums.
http://www.sfftech.com/
Depends on the architecture of the CPU. As far as top of the line equipment, it's generally not worth it. You get very little incremental gain over the products that are one or two steps below, for an exponential price increase.Except at this time, graphics cards have a very linear price/performance. IIRC the 6800GT costs roughly twice the price of 6600GT, and the performance is roughly double that of the 6600GT.
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