View Full Version : exactly 2 weeks till steve's keynote at MW....
thegelding
2004-12-28, 07:29
and darn it's quiet....
damn apple for plugging those leaks time after time
give me rumors, leaks, photos, false data....anything
hell, i'd take iWalk videos right now just to get the net and mac fanboys hoppin
g
pscates2.0
2004-12-28, 08:39
Yeah, it is a bit low-key and sedate, considering... :err:
Very odd.
I guess folks are just afraid of getting their balls sued off.
:p
Well, for the record I imagine:
1. Tiger demo and release date officially announced (which is, at best, fluid)
2. Updated PowerBook G4s (a quiet update, probably not talked about in keynote, but Apple's site will update and there will be a press release)
3. Some software updates, perhaps even iLife 05 (and that FireWire audio interface box thing, of course). ;)
4. New eMac (G5, slightly tweaked design, blah, blah, etc. Hopefully same - or lower - price)
5. New iPod flash-based doo-dad, in the $149 area (or $129?). This will be the "one more thing" portion of the show, with Steve building it up by dinging the hell out of all the other flash-based players on the market, and how bad they suck. :)
That's it. These Macworld keynotes never have more than a couple or three new things ("new" also meaning updates to existing products).
It's never a "product fest" like some threads here have outlined.
For the record, I DON'T imagine:
1. iPhone
2. PowerBook G5
3. iMac G5 updates (and no...no 23" iMac G5 either)
But yes, g...it is very quiet and mellow. I don't like it. :(
Most other years, with two weeks left to go, it's a madhouse and feeding frenzy throughout the Mac community. Have we gone soft? Are we just jaded at this point? Is all this stuff just commonplace to us, and we just take it for granted now?
I hope not.
torifile
2004-12-28, 08:48
The iPhone rumor appears to have some traction. It's probably going to happen. If not at MWSF, at a special event later in the month.
Oh, scates, you forgot about the inevitable update on how well the iPod is selling and how iTMS continues it's dominance. :D
Indications are that the eMac may continue to use the G4 processor due to a shortage of G5 processors (which are going into iMacs).
If the rumors of a Moto Razr based iPhone are true it may be a big, big mistake. The reports on Razrs are not good at all. Aside from the usual Moto snafus of firmware the handset itself is reported to be very fragile and easily broken (aside from being overpriced for what it is). There are reports that the insurance companies which sell insurance through the cell phone companies are refusing to insure them because of the high damage rates. People who filed claims before the companies refused coverage were reported to have their claims paid and their coverage dropped unless the got another phone.
There are "hints" of laptop changes of some sort (not G5) through some retailers though. This should not be a surprise as one would expect that an update is due even if there are no major changes.
pscates2.0
2004-12-28, 08:59
Oh, scates, you forgot about the inevitable update on how well the iPod is selling and how iTMS continues it's dominance. :D
Well that's just a given. You factor that in to every keynote or speech, so you don't even have to say it. :p
Steve probably wakes up in the morning and tells his kids that as he's making them breakfast. And the wife probably gets to hear it every night or so.
"Oh Steve...keynote me. I want it".
Okay, I'm going to hell. Or court.
Quagmire
2004-12-28, 09:12
Here is what I expect,
Powerbook G5 15" and 17" at 1.8 Ghz and 2 Ghz using the new low power G5
12" powerbook gets the 7447B at 1.67 Ghz.
emac G5 using the 1.6 Ghz 970fx
iPod flash
I do NOT expect iphone at all. iPhone is just being hyped because of the moto phones getting itunes.
Demo of more tiger features and possible release date
a 30 minute speech how well the iPod's sold over the holidays.
NeilyB 2.0
2004-12-28, 09:45
I'm gonna go against the grain and say there will be no flash iPod. Why would Apple want to get into the business of making those "flash players that only play a few songs and end up in a drawer?" That's a steve quote. Also, lets say they make a 1GB or 2GB flash player... how much cheaper would it be than a mini? not much. And what would it be called? The mini mini?
I think these bulk purchases of flash memory by Apple are for some other type of device.
NeilyB
I'm gonna go against the grain and say there will be no flash iPod. Why would Apple want to get into the business of making those "flash players that only play a few songs and end up in a drawer?" That's a steve quote. Also, lets say they make a 1GB or 2GB flash player... how much cheaper would it be than a mini? not much. And what would it be called? The mini mini?
I think these bulk purchases of flash memory by Apple are for some other type of device.
NeilyB
one word.........Asia.
Dave Hagan
2004-12-28, 09:56
I think we will see a major PowerBook update...and this will be done regardless of whether it has a G5.
The biggest change I see is a new enclosure - even if it has a G4. Apple must be paying hand over foot repairing PowerBooks because they have designed them so internally complicated, it's a nightmare and time consuming when they need to be taken apart for the repair or replacement of internal components. I would expect an enclosure design that is new and smooth with complete access to all of the PowerBook's internal components in the same way that the iMac G5 is now fully user servicable.
Additionally, I think a major revision would offer new displays that bring the PowerBooks in parity or surpass competitors in regards to brightness, viewing angle, resolution, etc. Considering what you can get in the PC world for a display at far less price, I think this is one area Apple could improve.
I believe Apple will opt to add features that were previously not found on PowerBooks, such a touch pad scroll wheel like is found now on most PC notebooks. Lastly, I think Apple will opt to build in new battery technology that enhances the running time of PowerBooks so they are more competitive with the new Centrinos.
The odds on bet are 50/50 we will see PowerBooks with a G5.
I don't see eMacs being demoed at the show. They have never been keynote material. If you will recall, the eMac was silently debuted alongside a PowerBook revamp on a bland Tuesday in April. I see something similar happening with the eMac.
The keynote should be pretty interesting. Can't wait!
pscates2.0
2004-12-28, 10:01
I'm gonna go against the grain and say there will be no flash iPod. Why would Apple want to get into the business of making those "flash players that only play a few songs and end up in a drawer?" That's a steve quote.
I can see your point. But the following are also "Steve quotes" (paraphrased, of course): :)
Upon the introduction of the iMac G4 in 2002:
"We didn't just glom the guts onto the back"
"Drives work best when they're oriented horizontally"
"Let each element be true to itself...the display wants to be thin, the drives want to be horizontal"
Then they unveiled the iMac G5, which negated all the above. :D
In June 2003:
"We'll be at 3GHz this time next year"
I realize the above isn't Apple's fault (nor am I bitching...I don't own a G5 and couldn't care less what their specs are).
I'm simply Illustrating that Steve's own quotes aren't carved in stone.
If they DO make some sort of flash-based player, Steve will take the time and effort to point out why it smokes the competition, as I'm sure it will. Let's not forget who we're dealing with here...it won't be some chintzy, piece-of-shit player ANYONE will want to "throw in a drawer"...of that I'm certain!
People throw those other things "in a drawer" because they suck. They have goofy navigation/controls, and they can be a pain-in-the-ass to work with, software- and connection-wise. Neither of those things apply to the iPod. That's significant, and that's Apple's ace in the hole that no one is currently close to!
The fact that it'll most likely have the famous iPod navigation design gives it a leg up, out of the box. The fact that it'll tie in beautifully with iTunes and the iTMS factors in. The fact that it's a member of the marketshare-owning iPod family doesn't hurt either.
People are going to see that it's an Apple-branded iPod...that's all many will need to know. Apple could release a food processor, call it the iChop and people would probably buy it.
That's momentum. Anything from Apple with the word "iPod" in the name is all but guaranteed to hit the ground running. A newer, cheaper model (for those with small or new music collections) should be no exception.
:)
But you're right: if it comes out and it's priced at $199 or so, then I don't see the point. I'd love to see it not more than $149. And I know $99 is wishful thinking, perhaps $129 is possible? And if it's "only" 1GB, hell...that's still 250 songs. At an average of three minutes that's still over 12 hours of continuous music. That's pretty good! That's four hours longer than the typical workday. That's about 10-11 hours longer than most people's gym or jogging/walking routine. About 10 hours longer than a nasty L.A. area morning commute. You could shuffle things in such a way that you wouldn't hear the same song for days!
And the rumors say the mini gets bumped to 5GB, so a 1-5GB span is wide enough to differentiate between two models.
The eMac doesn't seem like a keynote item even if it does go G5, then again after the PC Mag review it might. I'm wondering if that is what the PowerMac 9,1 is for which has been around since 10.3.5, I was more hoping for a PowerMac bump to PCI-e, DDR2, and multi-core chips. Which I think would require a motherboard revision big enough to need the new plist entry. It probably wouldn't ship until Feb or March, which should be close to the time IBM can crank out the 970MP. Maybe they will even throw in another HD bay or two.
As for the Powerbooks, I'm seeing a quiet bump later in the month due to the Powerbook entries being removed in 10.3.6 and they haven't returned yet. So no G5, and there is no point of changing the form of the PowerBook if there is no major modification to the rest of the system. Aluminum got the 12" and 17" screens. Ti got the G4.
pscates2.0
2004-12-28, 10:44
I agree 100% with that...they're not going to change the PowerBook design if it's still going to be a G4. They'll just squeeze a little more juice out of the G4 and maybe bump up the graphics. Any case or internal redesign will accompany the PowerBook G5 introduction.
They've done some outside, cosmetic changes (iMac > iMac DV, the various G4 towers, the Titanium to aluminum on the PowerBooks), but major redesigns have always been for the drastic leaps in product bounds (processors, in a nutshell): G3 jellybean iMac to iMac G4 (and iMac G4 to new iMac G5), G3 PowerBook to PowerBook G4, PowerMac G4 towers to G5 towers.
The eMac, having always been a G4 is a bit of a mystery. We'll see soon enough, I guess.
The iBook has been a bit of an exception, changing drastically in design (colorful toilet seat to square Chiclet) but staying with a G3. Then when it DID go to a G4, some slight keyboard changes and the change to a slot-loading drive were about the only outward clues. It still looked like the G3 Chiclets, overall.
I'm sure 2005 will see a PowerBook G5. And I'm sure any internal (and external, cosmetic) changes will accompany those models. I think Apple has already moved on and is knee-deep in development of those, and are just looking to squeeze out a final PowerBook G4 update with what they have, case-wise.
They're not going to bust their ass designing a whole new case or internals for a product on its way out, on its last rev. And before anyone can say "yeah, but they've developed it with the new G5 in mind, so it'll just switch over", stop and realize how nutty that sounds...Apple ISN'T going to give a free "sneak peak" to their new PowerBook G5 design until a G5 is in there and they're damn good and ready to announce it formally as a PowerBook G5, probably at WWDC or something like that.
:)
Think about it...makes no sense, the other way. When have they ever done that? They didn't put the iMac G3 guts in the sunflower iMac to "tide us over" until they got the iMac G4 kinks ironed out! Instead, they made us suffer through eight or so months of Flower Power and Blue Dalmation iMacs until MWSF 2002. THAT'S the Apple way!
:D
Haven't you read this yet?
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49211 ;)
pscates2.0
2004-12-28, 10:58
Well, this Albert Slope guy is as good as fired. Or dead. ;)
He just spilled some pretty big beans there, didn't he? That just seems not quite right, somehow. A person in that position would know better.
:confused:
If he's real, Steve and Schiller are probably working him over in the backroom at this very moment. Soon every trace of his miserable life will be erased. Albert Slope? Nope, never heard of him. :eek:
Messiahtosh
2004-12-28, 11:36
If he's real, Steve and Schiller are probably working him over in the backroom at this very moment. Soon every trace of his miserable life will be erased. Albert Slope? Nope, never heard of him. :eek:Yes, he's most certainly dead. :D
Way too ambitious.
I was thinking the exact same thing when I read it... April 1st?
*checks calendar*
I think there is an outside possibility that Apple would launch an AppleMobile off the back of an existing network and maybe, just maybe a long time down the track evolve into their own network... That is assuming they bring all these features and user friendlyness and iTMS to mobiles..
Donwload on the move.. Listen and then dump to your main machine when you get home type music purchasing may be cool...
But look at 3G and Hutchinson and how much they have lost for very little gain...
Orange sold their Thai arm of Orange for 1Baht (a few cents) to get out of a bad mistake, to 'true' - Our new phone empire here in Thailand.
Christ this could bring Apple down.
They would never go out on such a limb...
Yes... There is a war coming, and content delivery is it.. and the cross over between mobile and 'box in the corner connected to the wall' is going to be the battle ground... And yes.. Apple will be eyeing this up, as is everyone else..
But... Not this way. It would be suicide.
Hey, next we'll hear they are launching a 2005 Newton with a holographic display, which is a phone, iTMS enabled personal organiser with the first mind reading 'keyboard' so you can "Enter notes on the move just by thinking... different.*®©etcetc".
Great fun..
I will keep waiting for the Newton release..
autodata
2004-12-28, 11:41
That story is true. Albert Slope used to head apple's iWalk division.
That story is true. Albert Slope used to head apple's iWalk division.
Really? :p
t turns out to be a joke, Spanish style. A couple of "go to threads" at the beginning of the article explain it to non-Spanish readers. There's no Albert Slope at Apple. If there was, he'd be fired pronto! Silly Season. Sorry for posting.......
autodata
2004-12-28, 11:48
Next thing you'll try to tell me there's no iWalk division! :eek:
pscates2.0
2004-12-28, 11:51
You're going to get a smack. :p
This is weird, because just this past Sunday I was eating lunch with my ex-brother-in-law (a HUGE Microsoft guy) and he was showing me his new phone. It was an Audiovox (the phone itself), but it had a nice sized screen on it, in color. It had Bluetooth, a built-in camera, full browser and e-mail (all Windows, I guess).
In fact, on the back was the little Windows logo pressed/etched into the phone.
But it was very impressive. He had photos and songs on there, AND said he could put video too. It had a 512MB memory card in the top. It had USB on the bottom.
The whole time he's showing this to me and talking about it, I'm sitting there thinking to myself "OS X, Address Book, Bluetooth, .Mac e-mail, surfing, iChat, iSync, iCal, iTunes, iPhoto, etc. The PIECES all exist, and are wonderfully in place. Why won't bastard Apple give me something to throw back in his face?"
:D
If I could get a phone that looked as nice as the screen on his (size/clarity wise), BUT it was all Apple stuff making it work and do it's thing...there's your 21st century Newton! Only much better and truly more useful: phone, e-mail, contacts, to-do, Internet, syncing, some music and photos, etc. Heck, toss in that Inkwell stuff where I can scribble on the screen and it converts into letters...there's the input problem solved!
:eek:
I'd sell my PowerBook and just play with my phone all day!
:lol:
I really hope the phone is real. I am qute excited...
Have you seen this...
ipod stuff (http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?threadid=49213)
Heh, I kinda like the fact that there isn't anything concrete to report at the moment. It makes speculation more fun. And it makes the expo day all the more exciting. I'll be away from my office that morning, but when I get back, I can fire up Safari and get all the news in one big appley mass!
Plus, I could care less about the iPod flash...if it exists. I tend to agree with the guys here who have predicted a conservative (Tiger dates, iLife '05 maybe, no PB G5, speed bumps all round) MWSF.
I think the real fireworks are for later in the year, and will include a next gen processor - by which I mean a POWER 5 derivative. Note, however, that I have absolutely nothing on which to base this prediction.
And even if I'm wrong, I don't care cos I am waiting for the UPS guy to deliver my 'new' Cube! 450/768/20 for $425! Not bad, and there's a PowerLogix upgrade with my name on it as well as an ATI 9200. I'll be playing Doom 3 on it before the year's out, regardless of what uncle Steve unveils!
bassplayinMacFiend
2004-12-28, 14:05
Steve probably wakes up in the morning and tells his kids that as he's making them breakfast. And the wife probably gets to hear it every night or so.
"Oh Steve...keynote me. I want it".
[Jobs]
OK baby. Time for "One More Thing..." :smokey: :p :smokey:
thegelding
2004-12-28, 14:10
Well, this Albert Slope guy is as good as fired. Or dead. ;)
He just spilled some pretty big beans there, didn't he? That just seems not quite right, somehow. A person in that position would know better.
:confused:
here (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.estrelladigital.es%2F articulo.asp%3Fsec%3Ddep%26fech%3D29%2F12%2F03%26n ame%3Dinocentadas&langpair=es%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools)
dec 28th is the spainish april fools day
g
pscates2.0
2004-12-28, 14:13
Yeah, that was figured out upthread... :)
bassplayinMacFiend
2004-12-28, 14:14
The last few MWSF keynotes have been decidedly consumer oriented. If the PowerMacs get updated, it'll be via press release at the end of January or beginning of February. Unless they do something massive like hit 3GHz + PCI-e etc., etc.
I think we'll see a demo of GarageBand '05 accompanied by Asteriod/Q97.
Amazon already listed 3/31/2005 as the release date for Tiger so let's see how accurate they were. I think we'll get a Tiger release date, after the requisite Spotlight, Dashboard Accessories, secret new feature that no one yet knows about speech.
Flash based iPod (iPod micro?) a definite possibility, it is consumer enough. Updated iPod mini? You betcha. There are mini-music devices on the market with 5GB drives. Apple can't fall behind in spec-itis with the iPod.
Remember, if iPod sales projections are correct and computer sales are at the same levels as last quarter, the iPod will account for almost 50% of Apple revenue this quarter. They have to keep updating the iPods.
If they're ready to go, we may see something about the updated eMac. Although if the iMac G5's are selling like hotcakes Apple might hold off on releasing a G5 eMac. I would hold off. If iMac G5 sales are even with iMac G4 sales, then release the eMac G5 hounds!
Because of the updated 5GB iPod minis and new iPod micros both being announced, something else will be in the "One More Thing..." spot.
Hopefully, this "One More Thing..." will be a PowerBook G5. It's a long shot, and would be an even longer shot if the eMac G5 was released, but it needs to happen. If not a PBG5, then a significantly updated G4 will be released, but won't be "OMT..." unless Apple revamps the PB's exterior.
thegelding
2004-12-28, 14:16
Yeah, that was figured out upthread...
hey, i'm old and my mind "drifts" from time to time
still waiting for some good rumors and people trying to pass off mockups as real apple goods...
ie...i was in an elevator at the convention site and there were these boxes with blankets over them....so i paused the elevator and took these vague, slightly out of focus pictures with my phone camera.....etc etc
g
bassplayinMacFiend
2004-12-28, 14:18
ie...i was in an elevator at the convention site and there were these boxes with blankets over them....so i paused the elevator and took these vague, slightly out of focus pictures with my phone camera.....etc etc
g
I was hanging out with Meader of MOSR fame and fed him a few drinks. As the alcohol took affect, he slyly looked over at me and told me Apple was releasing nothing new at MWSF. :lol: Straight from the horse's mouth! You heard it here first folks! :lol:
thegelding
2004-12-28, 14:20
i heard they were moving MWSF to boston
so steve has pulled out and is releasing nothing new
also he has decided to "farm" out the iPod and iTMS to microsoft so he can focus on the mobile phone business
g
pscates2.0
2004-12-28, 14:36
OMG...IT'S THE iPhone!! (http://homepage.mac.com/pscates/mockups/phone.jpg) :eek:
Or the iPod flash. My sources tell me it could be either one. Those were smuggled out during a recent recon op in Cupertino. My sources are impeccable.
I'm gonna go against the grain and say there will be no flash iPod. Why would Apple want to get into the business of making those "flash players that only play a few songs and end up in a drawer?" That's a steve quote. Also, lets say they make a 1GB or 2GB flash player... how much cheaper would it be than a mini? not much. And what would it be called? The mini mini?
I think these bulk purchases of flash memory by Apple are for some other type of device.
NeilyB
Your missing the market... it's for kids! do you know how hot the ipod is to high school, jr. high and elem. kids - IT'S HUGE - repeat - HUGE, it would sell like hotcakes - ps. some adults would buy it too :)
OMG! OMG! OMG! That red light is sooooooooo cool. I can't wait. LOL
Apple Store's down. Probably nothing though, with MacWorld being two weeks away.
BenRoethig
2004-12-28, 15:27
My prediction:
New Dual G5s with PCI-Express X16. Optional FireGL or Quattro Workstation cards.
Consumer tower to replace the SP PowerMac G5. X300, x600, x800 graphics options. Same software package as the iMac. Matching 15" and 17" displays.
pscates2.0
2004-12-28, 15:33
MOSR ( :D I know...) spoke of a new standalone 17" display a week or so ago (take with an appropriately-sized grain of salt), but I can't imagine Apple going back to a 15" display @ 1024x768.
I can almost imagine a 17" widescreen Cinema Display (at the familiar 1440x900 resolution of the iMac G5 and 17" PowerBook) in the $599 range, but I wouldn't hold my breath for a drop back down to 4:3 15".
SeaTacMac
2004-12-28, 15:33
Nice Try with the "iPhone photo" (blurry bottom of laser iMac Mouse)... ;)
Predictions...? DON'T forget the the 20th Anniversary of the Mac is under way, so... surprises may be instore from The Steve.
eMac...? Kill the eMac in the Apple Stores. Should be educational market only.
New eMac should be the same as new iMac G5, BUT G4 & NO slot loading drive (for students / school use only). Teachers can use the G5 iMac with slot loading drive.
Retail eMacs will dilute the G5 iMac market.
Upgrade PM to have 3 GHZ IBM chips & more drive slots.
New iApps / upgrades
New iPod sunglasses / headphone combo (made by Oakley or RayBan)
New iTV / TiVo / iPod Music set top box
New DC G4 PowerBook with "flip-top" screen that transforms into iPad Tablet with Inkwell.
Just a thought...
:rolleyes:
pscates2.0
2004-12-28, 15:38
Nice Try with the "iPhone photo" (blurry bottom of laser iMac Mouse)... ;)
Rats...I've been found out! :p
Predictions...? DON'T forget the the 20th Anniversary of the Mac is under way, so... surprises may be instore from The Steve.
Well yeah, it's "under way"...and HAS been for the previous 11-plus months! If they didn't release any 20th anniversary-celebrating product in 2004, I certainly don't look for it in 2005. It was 1984, right? Doing something in 2005 would be silly. "Say hello to the 21st anniversary Mac!" :D
The only "surprise" is how damn quiet Apple themselves were about this particular milestone. I kinda expected a bit, truth be told. But that's cool...still been a pretty good year, overall.
eMac...? Kill the eMac in the Apple Stores. Should be educational market only. New eMac should be the same as new iMac G5, BUT G4 & NO slot loading drive (for students / school use only).
Could you have a tray-loading vertical optical drive? Seems like the disk would fall out before you could get it in! Slot-loading WORKS for that application (vertically, on the side of the iMac G5). Not sure about a tray-loading design in this particular situation.
SeaTacMac
2004-12-28, 15:50
Rats...I've been found out! :p
Well yeah, it's "under way"...and HAS been for the previous 11-plus months! If they didn't release any 20th anniversary-celebrating product in 2004, I certainly don't look for it in 2005. It was 1984, right? Doing something in 2005 would be silly. "Say hello to the 21st anniversary Mac!" :D
The only "surprise" is how damn quiet Apple themselves were about this particular milestone. I kinda expected a bit, truth be told. But that's cool...still been a pretty good year, overall.
Could you have a tray-loading vertical optical drive? Seems like the disk would fall out before you could get it in! Slot-loading WORKS for that application (vertically, on the side of the iMac G5). Not sure about a tray-loading design in this particular situation.
Clarification...
New eMac same as new iMAC but with NO drive accessible from students (elemantary students, etc. NO slot or tray loading) G4 instead of G5. 2 earphone jacks in back.
TEACHERS have the G5 iMac with slot loading drive, networked to students eMacs thru Xserve. email assignments or burn a CD from one central G5 iMac station / Teacher's iMac...
pscates2.0
2004-12-28, 15:55
I see...I get it now! :)
thegelding
2004-12-28, 15:59
"Say hello to the 21st anniversary Mac!"
the party ball mac finally comes of age.....the liquid cooling is used also as a beer tap and dispenser...every dorm will order many of these 21st birthday macs
g
bassplayinMacFiend
2004-12-28, 16:19
the party ball mac finally comes of age.....the liquid cooling is used also as a beer tap and dispenser...every dorm will order many of these 21st birthday macs
g
Or they could have the tower lay flat and turn it into a foot warmer! :D
Quagmire
2004-12-28, 16:28
The eMac doesn't seem like a keynote item even if it does go G5, then again after the PC Mag review it might. I'm wondering if that is what the PowerMac 9,1 is for which has been around since 10.3.5, I was more hoping for a PowerMac bump to PCI-e, DDR2, and multi-core chips. Which I think would require a motherboard revision big enough to need the new plist entry. It probably wouldn't ship until Feb or March, which should be close to the time IBM can crank out the 970MP. Maybe they will even throw in another HD bay or two.
As for the Powerbooks, I'm seeing a quiet bump later in the month due to the Powerbook entries being removed in 10.3.6 and they haven't returned yet. So no G5, and there is no point of changing the form of the PowerBook if there is no major modification to the rest of the system. Aluminum got the 12" and 17" screens. Ti got the G4.
I believe rackmac 3,1 or 3,2 or whatever the number is disappeared in 10.3.7. That is the Xserve updates to 2.3 Ghz or 2.5 Ghz( speeds according to ts). So there isn't going to be Xserve updates since they disappeared? I believe the single 1.8 Ghz Powermac G5 is Powermac 9,1.
curiousuburb
2004-12-28, 17:48
OMG...IT'S THE iPhone!! (http://homepage.mac.com/pscates/mockups/phone.jpg) :eek:
Or the iPod flash. My sources tell me it could be either one. Those were smuggled out during a recent recon op in Cupertino. My sources are impeccable.
Impeccably fuzzy...
And. doesn't. fit. the. iColour. scheme.
iPhone (http://members.shaw.ca/bluehatcat/ai/iphone.jpg) :p
In regard to an Apple-branded phone, I found this article. http://www.forbes.com/technology/2004/12/16/cx_ah_1216aapl.html
I did find another reference to Eddy Cue as an Apple VP.
I suspect that Apple is building the infrastructure and phone sw (via java?) that will allow phone users to use the new functionality instead of creating Apple-branded hardware. This approach could be aimed at 3G phones.
colonelforbin
2004-12-28, 18:41
New DC G4 PowerBook with "flip-top" screen that transforms into iPad Tablet with Inkwell.
Just a thought...
:rolleyes:
that would be awfully useful.
but prohibitively expensive methinks.
BlueRabbit
2004-12-28, 19:26
Could you have a tray-loading vertical optical drive? Seems like the disk would fall out before you could get it in! Slot-loading WORKS for that application (vertically, on the side of the iMac G5). Not sure about a tray-loading design in this particular situation.
I've seen PC's with vertical tray-loading drives before. All you need is some sort of thing to hold the disk in, kind of like a portable CD player. The new eMac should have a CD drive. It may not seem like schools would really need it, but would make it almost impossible to install a new OS or install software without hooking it up to a network. Also, as crazy as it may seem, some students burn their projects to CD and bring them in. USB flash drives are common, but not as common as floppies.
Also, Apple needs to have a sub-$1000 desktop, and making the eMac edu-only would take that away. They would need to either come out with a new computer that cheap (neo-Cube?), or make the iMac/Powermac significantly cheaper.
Edit: …and according to Think Secret, we just might have the cheap Mac/neo-cube! :D
SeaTacMac
2004-12-28, 19:43
HEY! The "Party Ball" (iBall) globe shaped single G5 iMac would be cool, especially if water cooled & perforated aluminum! (Neo Cube-turned Globe)
A fixed mini-PM Tower with ragin' graphics card / memory & loaded with DDR Ram /
Great for gamers, students, etc.
Totally wireless / Bluetooth / Airport modem only. Enclosed speakers behind perforated aluminum & plugs into flat panel monitor or projector.
iBall...The Party Mac.
SeaTacMac
2004-12-28, 19:52
:D What if the Keynote had the new Mini-Tower as a smaller perf alum enclosure, but with a "blade" insert (ala XServe) with one G5 chip/HD/Ram,etc on a small blade that could plugged into Mini-Tower.
"Plug + Play" XServe Mini that plugs into Apple flat panel monitors...
That would be handy!
unixguru
2004-12-29, 01:44
I can see your point. But the following are also "Steve quotes" (paraphrased, of course): :)
Upon the introduction of the iMac G4 in 2002:
"We didn't just glom the guts onto the back"
"Drives work best when they're oriented horizontally"
"Let each element be true to itself...the display wants to be thin, the drives want to be horizontal"
Then they unveiled the iMac G5, which negated all the above. :D
If they DO make some sort of flash-based player, Steve will take the time and effort to point out why it smokes the competition, as I'm sure it will. Let's not forget who we're dealing with here...it won't be some chintzy, piece-of-shit player ANYONE will want to "throw in a drawer"...of that I'm certain!
People throw those other things "in a drawer" because they suck. They have goofy navigation/controls, and they can be a pain-in-the-ass to work with, software- and connection-wise. Neither of those things apply to the iPod. That's significant, and that's Apple's ace in the hole that no one is currently close to!
But you're right: if it comes out and it's priced at $199 or so, then I don't see the point. I'd love to see it not more than $149. And I know $99 is wishful thinking, perhaps $129 is possible? And if it's "only" 1GB, hell...that's still 250 songs. At an average of three minutes that's still over 12 hours of continuous music. That's pretty good! That's four hours longer than the typical workday. That's about 10-11 hours longer than most people's gym or jogging/walking routine. About 10 hours longer than a nasty L.A. area morning commute. You could shuffle things in such a way that you wouldn't hear the same song for days!
Thanks for pointing that out. Jobs will trash on any product idea if he doesn't have one to sell you.
But I don't really get all this iPod hype. I know a lot of apple-lovers might say that flash-based players aren't necessary, just because apple doesn't have one, but there's no way in hell i'd go jogging with a hard drive.
About a year ago I got my woman a Rio Cali (which is I believe what Jobs trashed). It's a flash based player and she wanted something to jog with. Sh e loves it. Initially it didn't have enough capacity, but I just got her a 1 GB SD card for $50. Total cost: $180, and it's safe to jog. She can have about 289 songs (MP3). That's a lot. The only thing I don't like about it is the included software is not that great. But the player itself works well, and isn't hard to use at all. Apple wants $300 for an ipod. That's quite a bit more. I don't remember if the mini was out, but neither one is really good for jogging.
If apple had a flash-based player for workouts, i might have considered it, but contrary to jobs' reality distortion field, the rio isn't bad at all.
unixguru,
I'm sorry but I must COMPLETELY disagree with you that the iPod mini is not good for jogging. I have had a silver iPod mini and the armband for almost a year now and I run 5+ miles 3-4 times a week, and it has NEVER (repeat, NEVER) skipped on me. So for $300 (for the iPod mini and the armband) I have 1000 songs (not 289) and the BEST interface in the industry, bar none.
thegelding
2005-01-05, 11:01
ok....so i mention two weeks and no rumors flying...and suddenly the rumors start a flyin'
so now i will tempt fate and say this
6 days till steve's keynote...when will we get leaked photos??
g
ok....so i mention two weeks and no rumors flying...and suddenly the rumors start a flyin'
so now i will tempt fate and say this
6 days till steve's keynote...when will we get leaked photos??
g
Here's a spy picture I found...
http://members.aol.com/mistertoyz/spyvs.spy.gif
pscates2.0
2005-01-05, 11:13
:eek: :)
Yeah, I asked this in another thread ("do you think we'll make it to Tuesday WITHOUT seeing a photo of something?"). Then I made a smart-ass comment about Time or Newsweek being on the case...
;)
I hope we some photos. You know they're out there. The marketing and "beauty shots" have all been taken. Big 40' posters that will hang from the rafters at Moscone are rolled up in a warehouse somewhere in the Bay Area...
Also, who do you think they've tapped to be in that little 5-10 minute video thing they always produce to accompany new products? They've had everyone from Frances Ford Copolla to Seal to Tony Hawk.
Who's the hipster "flavor of the month" now that could be involved? Someone from the music or design community?
Oh shit...it just hit me. It'll be the five Queer Eye guys...
Yeah, we haven't seen/heard them enough this past year. Aren't they well into their 17th minute by now? Should be... :err:
Is there a famous, dyed-in-the-wool PC user out there who finally made the switch and will lend his/her face and story to this thing?
"Hi, I'm Alex Trebek, and I'm here with my friend Paris Hilton...".
:grumble:
thegelding
2005-01-05, 11:19
it will be the unholy duo of ken jennings and ashley simpson
naaah too white bread
how about those dudes from that white castle movie that just is out on dvd
or the cast from Hero to get the asian crowd
maybe ron artest...he ain't doing much now and can say something like,
"i go into the stands and kick ass for only two reasons...one, some cracker throws beer on me and two, someone tries and takes my iPod flash player away...."
g
"flavor of the month"?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4148053.stm
well?
thegelding
2005-01-05, 11:27
or the cast from lost....
what is the one thing you would take to a desert island theme going
or for the kids
that viva la bam dude
g
first leaked photos within 48 hours
just a hunch
Messiahtosh
2005-01-05, 11:32
Why not Tim Allen? Everyone knows him and he's a huge Mac fan.
DMBand0026
2005-01-05, 12:21
Because he's too busy getting arrested for possession or beating his hideous wife, presumably to try and make her more attractive.
Too bad it's not working. Hit harder next time Tim.
Messiahtosh
2005-01-05, 13:46
Because he's too busy getting arrested for possession or beating his hideous wife, presumably to try and make her more attractive.
Too bad it's not working. Hit harder next time Tim.Well, he was in attendance at the U2 event.
Unbeliever
2005-01-05, 18:45
I say it`s the vampire killing, iPod lovin' chick from Blade Trinity :D
loftsman
2005-01-07, 12:36
I don't want to burst any bubbles, but I have insider info on the post-keynote upgrades direct from an employee of the company. My friend says they're going to bump up the powerbooks to 1.67Ghz. He also said that in about 6 months, everything is going G5 except for the iBooks (and eMacs?, I'm not sure) and Tiger is coming out simultaneously. In 6 months, the G5s are hitting 3Ghz as well. So that means G5 laptops sometime in June or so. The SF keynote looks pretty uneventful as far as new releases, but mid 2005 looks pretty exciting.
I don't want to burst any bubbles, but I have insider info on the post-keynote upgrades direct from an employee of the company. My friend says they're going to bump up the powerbooks to 1.67Ghz. He also said that in about 6 months, everything is going G5 except for the iBooks (and eMacs?, I'm not sure) and Tiger is coming out simultaneously. In 6 months, the G5s are hitting 3Ghz as well. So that means G5 laptops sometime in June or so. The SF keynote looks pretty uneventful as far as new releases, but mid 2005 looks pretty exciting.
Why does that (unfortunately) ring so true? It certainly fits with all the normal G5 speculation.
I'll be hacked off though if I've got to wait until June to get my hands on Tiger :\ :(
Im betting on a March release of Tiger.
I don't want to burst any bubbles, but I have insider info...
OMG! A conservative estimate that fits with the regular update routine and general expectations? Impossible! :lol: Someone at Apple is going to be fired for this leak, for sure!
morningstarrising
2005-01-07, 14:56
The SF keynote looks pretty uneventful..
Yeah if you don't look at all the other new stuff...
LudwigVan
2005-01-07, 15:22
OMG! A conservative estimate that fits with the regular update routine and general expectations? Impossible! :lol: Someone at Apple is going to be fired for this leak, for sure!
The sad thing, though, is that lots of people will be severely disappointed if this comes to pass (deservedly so, the evil part of me says).
pscates2.0
2005-01-07, 15:30
The SF keynote looks pretty uneventful as far as new releases...
:err:
ONLY for the PowerBook G5 and 3GHz hounds out there...
What about the other things slated (and all but confirmed at this point): $499 Mac, iPod flash, iWork, iLife 05, possible phone thingy and iPod mini bump? That's five new things (and I feel really confident on three of them) and one update to an already wildly popular product.
Uneventful? On what planet, exactly?
:confused:
Messiahtosh
2005-01-07, 15:43
Not only that, but there are always a few surprises that never leak.
morningstarrising
2005-01-07, 15:51
Yeah, like iSync 2.
:err:
ONLY for the PowerBook G5 and 3GHz hounds out there...
What about the other things slated (and all but confirmed at this point): $499 Mac, iPod flash, iWork, iLife 05, possible phone thingy and iPod mini bump? That's five new things (and I feel really confident on three of them) and one update to an already wildly popular product.
Uneventful? On what planet, exactly?
:confused:
Agree, the keynote is always an event if Steve is there - nuff said
Gargoyle
2005-01-11, 09:52
OMFG!!!! http://stream.apple.akadns.net/ is DOWN!!!111
:D Just had to get that out of my system. Don't hold your breath, or click that link - If there is a webcast I want all the bandwidth :devil:
Been down for like 5 hours already.
Gargoyle
2005-01-11, 09:57
Ahh so you broke it by clicking refresh evey 5 seconds!?! ;)
does that mean, that we'll maybe get a live stream after all?
meta refresh frameset on 10 Macs..
j/k
Gargoyle
2005-01-11, 10:14
does that mean, that we'll maybe get a live stream after all?
Nobody seems to know. You'll just have to try that link closer to 9am san fran time (5pm GMT)
Been down for like 5 hours already.
Roger that.
thegelding
2005-01-11, 10:30
it was down yesterday...i checked it a few times
g
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