View Full Version : The Obligatory 2004 NHL Playoffs Thread
Willoughby
2004-05-16, 09:29
Keith Primeau ownz j00 :D
Did anyone else notice that 3 out of 4 teams in the playoffs have very low salaries? Hmmm maybe that salary cap isn't needed afterall.....
InactionMan
2004-05-16, 10:26
Primeau is really carrying that team right now. If he goes down (his noodle isn't in top shape from the concussion) so goes Philly. If not, Philly has a shot at the Cup, which as a Leafs fan, sickens me to my very core. I still think the Bolts will take it.
Willoughby
2004-05-16, 11:15
Clearly game 5 is going to be HUGE. If the Flyers can win I think they can take the series in 6. If they lose I'm sure they'll put everything they have in to game 6 to even it up. But going back to Tampa Bay in Game 7 is going to be the biggest challenge they've faced this whole year. That'll be scary.
So of course I hope we win Tuesday and Thursday ;)
Willoughby
2004-05-16, 11:16
Oh and shouldn't this be in AppleOutsider? :D
HoTT RoDeR
2004-05-16, 17:11
I was and still am a diehard hockey fan although I haven't payed attention the past 2 years...
Why? When? And for who were Paul karia and Selane traded to San Jose?
HoTT RoDeR
2004-05-16, 17:11
Who do you think will win the cup this year of some of the better playoff hockey I have seen?
HoTT RoDeR
2004-05-16, 17:13
I have been watching the Flyers and they are a F*cking tuff team. Excuse my language. I think it'll be them and Calgary for sure.
curiousuburb
2004-05-16, 17:44
after a scoreless first period, SJ now leads Calgary 4-1 at the end of the 2nd
InactionMan
2004-05-16, 22:35
This thread is need of a serious dose of Moogs.
Looks like both series could go 7. Whoever makes it to the Cup final is going to be whopped. Look for a clutchy-grabby final. If Philly makes they'll turn the goon-factor up to 11.
HoTT RoDeR
2004-05-16, 23:43
Yah it would be nice for a Canadian team to win it for once. :)
Crusader
2004-05-17, 13:39
The Obligatory NHL Sucks Post :D
InactionMan
2004-05-18, 07:06
Oh dear God! Flames win 3-0. One win away from the Cup final. :D :D :D
InactionMan
2004-05-19, 23:22
Six minutes till the Flames go for the CUP!
That empty netter at the last millisecond sure sums up how the Sharks must feel right now.
Holy Jumpin! If I am not mistaken, the Flames have just finished off the rest of the west by beating the numbers 1, 2 and 3 seeds in the conference. THAT is a amazing. And if they happen to get Tampa Bay (I have mixed emotions about that series... as a Pens fan one must never root for Philly, but by the same token, they're just not as detestable as they used to be)... they would be playing the #1 seed in the east as well.
I love how Iginla just ignored all the superstition stuff, grabbed the trophy and marched right into the locker room. Gotta love the guy for his heart and attitude, not just his skills.
InactionMan
2004-05-20, 10:41
Iginla just cemented himself as the best player in the NHL. HE had done it in the regular season but now that he's proven to be clutch...best player by far.
-Good to see ya Moogs :D
Yep, the Flames have beaten all 3 Western Division Champs to get the finals. Pretty remarkable.
The scene in Calgary was unbelievable last night. My best friend's bro was at the game and didn't get home until just before he had to go to work. 20,000 people crowded 17th Ave partying all night.
Cool to see the city getting behind the team like that. And from what I'm seeing in the news, the whole country is getting in on it. First Canadian team in 10 bloody years to make it to the finals.
Good time to be a hockey fan, and an even better time to be a Flames fan. :D
I have got to admit that I never picked the Flames to go anywhere this year. Wow. And I am not sure that they are just playing on heart. I think now that this is a team that could have legs in the future season. I guess I gotta pay more attention in the future.
InactionMan
2004-05-20, 20:12
Holy Crap! I forgot the Flyer game was on. Go Bolts!
2-1 Philly after one.
Regarding Calgary, I am quite happy for the fans there. They know what being a real fan is about (same as those in Edmonton and to a lesser extent Vancouver).
And now for something completely different, I'm going to go try and get a few snapshots of some "bolts" as a big storm is rolling in as I type this. Better get out there before it gets too close.
InactionMan
2004-05-20, 21:00
3-2 Philly Second Period. fuck. No Matter, they can't win the way Esche is playing. Dude is giving up some juicy ass rebounds. And they all seem to end up going right through the slot. Sooner or later someone will pounce on one.
Storm cometh here as well. It must be a sign. Bolts in 6!
InactionMan
2004-05-20, 21:05
Thunder rolls across the GTA and second later the Bolts tie it. Coincidence??? Me thinks not! :D
InactionMan
2004-05-20, 22:57
Flyers won. Crud. I hate the Flyers.
It may appear as though Primeau's four points, along with his relentless battling won the game for Philly, but really it was Handzus' mullet. The man is powerful.
:D
I was glad to see it go into OT and Philly win at home; it's always a blast to watch fans go nuts on what could be the last game of the year. Game seven will be close I hope. Either team deserves a W at this point, not that I'm a Philly fan but I have to give them some credit. They're not nearly as goonish as they used to be.
InactionMan
2004-05-20, 23:12
Yeah, I guess the Flyers aren't as goontacular as they once were. Sill hoping for a Bolts/Flames final.
When I first turned the game on the Sea of Orange looked like empty seates. I thought their fans had given up on them. Poor misguided Philly fans. A sea of orange just isn't cool.
Willoughby
2004-05-21, 00:13
Poor misguided Philly fans. A sea of orange just isn't cool.
No way! The "orange crush" was awesome!
Man I think that game gave me an ulcer! I'm so glad we're going to game 7. With 2 minutes left in the 3rd period I thought it was all over, I could already see the lineup for the handshake.....wow.
No doubt. That Primeau goal was clutch. I thought they were toast at the two minute mark. As for the orange crush, I also fall prey to the illusion that they are thousands of empty seats but it would be cool to have the Red Sea vs. Orange Crush for the Finals.
Philly fans are usually pretty awful in just about any sport. They'll boo their own mothers if given the chance. But this year they seem to be a bit more enthusiastic than in playoff years past. I think once a team gets past the first couple rounds, Philly fans are like:
Ralph: "Yah, so Pawly... you thinks da Flyahs ah for real dis year?"
Paul: "Yo."
Willoughby
2004-05-21, 23:38
Ralph: "Yah, so Pawly... you thinks da Flyahs ah for real dis year?"
Paul: "Yo."
:D :D
It's funny cause it's true!
But also it's sad, so very very sad :( Why do I live around such neanderthals? ;)
"Ayy... you know... I takes offense ta dat types a langwidge! Dis is tha city of bruthily luv. Ya cants just go around coysin da backbone a dis city. Next thing you'll be insultin cheese-steyks! Apologizes or I'm gonna pay a visit to ya mutha."
Bolts and Flames... who would've thought that at the start of the playoffs, much less the season? Just goes to show what an amazing game hockey is. Unlike other North American team sports, you don't have to have multiple superstar-calibre talents just to compete. Sometimes one or two stars and a handful of gutsy, dedicated players is all you need.
Awesome.
Bolts and Flames... who would've thought that at the start of the playoffs, much less the season? Just goes to show what an amazing game hockey is. Unlike other North American team sports, you don't have to have multiple superstar-calibre talents just to compete. Sometimes one or two stars and a handful of gutsy, dedicated players is all you need.
Awesome.
Um... I'll use the 2003 season champs from each league.
NFL: New England Patriots. Who is the super-star? Tom Brady? The guy didn't throw passes until the middle of his first Super Bowl winning season. The funny thing is they pawned off their superstar to Buffalo before the 2003 season. Troy Brown and Kevin Faulk are 'decent' at best, if even.
NBA: San Antonio Spurs. They've only got one and that's the soft-spoken Tim Duncan. Is Fisher a star? I don't really think so. Robinson was a super-star at one point, but not in the last few years leading to his retirement.
MLB: Florida Marlins. They were a bunch of nobodies + Ivan Rodriguez. They were abysmal through April, and then they hired a ONE MILLION year old manager and they schooled everybody, including the Yankees. They did it with one of the lowest payrolls in the game...and one of the lowest attendance figures too.
Willoughby
2004-05-23, 08:31
The Curse of William Penn strikes again :(
I'm glad we got to Game 7 and made it that far but we didn't even show up for that game. The better team definitely won this one and they deserve it.
Eugene,
You make some good cases in point, but I would say the Patriots were a total aberration. The Super Bowl champs almost always have a lot of star-power, either on defense, offense or a mix of both. Tampa Bay, St. Louis, , Denver, GreenBay and many others in recent years have often been stacked to the gills with talent.
Basketball as well. I don't know their roster well, but in years past the Spurs had David Robinson for their championship seasons (though I think he played sparingly last year). They also had Steve Smith, whom I'd consider your standard issue all-star calibre player. Sean Elliot while frequently hurt, was also an all-star calibre player. Avery was a legit talent as well, even though he's very small by NBA standards. The point is, these guys were not unknowns the way most of the Calgary Flames and (to a lesser degree) the Tampa Bay Lightning are.
And of course, the Lakers, Bulls and Rockets (11 championsips among them in the last 15 years) have all been poster-children for all-star / super-star rosters.
Baseball is an odd case because if you look at season and post-season records over the years, the most talented teams dominate. But of course, hitting a baseball is such a fleeting thing that even the most talented players can be stymied for a series and lose their shot. Here I would agree the game can -- during some years -- be a great equalizer, but it doesn't happen that often IMO.
The Marlins last year were a good example of a team without many stars who excelled, the Marlins from 97 were not a good example of that IMO. But when you look at the bottom line, it's teams like the Yankees, Mariners, Red Sox, and Braves that dominate the regular season year after year and are often found playing in late September or October. Even the Angels, A's Indians and Astros of the world (teams that have a good amount of success from year to year but are never locks for the post-season) have many star players on their rosters. Almost every single year.
When you look at hockey though, it's a different story. Look at the two most successful teams over the last decade (the Red Wings and Devils). Six Cups among them, but only the Red Wings could claim all-star calibre talent up and down their lineup. Yzerman, Federov (prior to this season), Shannahan, Whitney (this season only), Lidstrom, Draper... although they have never had an all-star calibre goalie IMO, which is rare for NHL champions.
But the thing is, other than Yzerman and Lidstrom, most of those guys would not be all-stars if they played for other teams. The reason they've had such success over the years is Scottie Bowman's team concept and having everyone on that team, buy into it and play their specific role (even though it could mean hurting their chances for a more lucrative salary due to lower stats), every single year. I can't stand the Wings but I can admit they have been the ultimate team most years I watch them. They are are a unit, almost always on the same page, never too high or low, always atuned to their coach and the flow of the game.
The Devils have had a true super-star in goal (Brodeur) but only one perennial star on offense (Elias) and two on defense (Stevens and Niedermeyer) the years they've won the Cup. It has been the role players that have to knuckle up and carry that team when the three big-name skating players are not on the ice. Even Martin Brodeur can't stop pucks if his teammates don't take their man and play the game well.
The Avalanche of course are poster-children for super-star rosters, but they only have two Cups to show for it over the past ten years. This year was a classic example of how having super-stars doesn't guarantee you anything in the NHL. The Avs were pre-season favorites to dominate the regular season, and the playoffs on their way to the Cup. They finished second in their division, fourth in their conference, and lost in the second round. The reason for that, is because in recent years Pierre LaCroix foolishly traded away their very best role players: DeVries, Yelle, Klemm, Podein, Messier... and one of the smartest coaches in the game, Bob Hartley. It's not the stars that usually win teams a Cup, it's the role players.
This leads me to what is THE biggest difference between hockey and (especially football and baseball): the best players -- other than the goalie -- are on the ice for roughly 40 seconds at a time, then they're off for about 2+ minutes. In short, they play 18-22 of 60 minutes every single game. That means the unsung guys have to pick up the slack or there will be zero success. And by pick up slack, I mean punish the other team physically, score goals and sometimes help goalies make saves... not just "hustle". You can't say that about any other sport... that for 2/3 of every game, the little guys must carry the team. And many times, those little guys are matched against the other team's big guys on various shifts because of the way coaches control the flow of the game.
Hockey is a sport where you either have a roster full of gritty players who know their role (checking, transition, face-offs, etc.) and are willing to do anything to accomplish that role, or you're going to lose. Football is a little bit like this in terms of the linemen, but often-times those linemen have to be the biggest and the best for your team to excel game after game.
I still say over the last couple decades or so, hockey teams more than any of the other sports, live and die by the concept of team, of unselfishly playing your role every single night, even if you'd prefer or excel at a different role. You do what the coach asks and you don't bitch about it in the locker room after the game, cameras rolling, because hockey is always always about the team before yourself. You can even sense this in recreational leagues; it's hard to understand unless you've actually done it.
Not saying the other sports suck or aren't exciting, just that hockey is unique in the way the teams play and win (or lose).
Speaking of previous champions...
Warren Sapp may have been a star, but Meshawn did basically nothing in his the last 2 years at Tampa. Simeon Rice is the next closest thing to a star on that team. That is not a household name.
The 2002 Angels started a 5'6" short stop who can't even make the throw to first base without bouncing it in. They also had one of the lowest payrolls that year.
And the 2001 Diamondbacks did have all-stars, but all were on the wrong side of 35 years old at the time.
Frankly, I don't see much of a difference. Nothing that warrants elevating the NHL above and beyond for certain.
Well obviously it's somewhat subjective - everyone has their favorite sport - but having played all but football on one competitive level or another, and having watched a ton of baseball and basketball in my earlier days I'd say hockey more than the others depend upon "unsung heros" to win Cups. And the proportion of unsung heros and the amount of game time they log relative to the stars is larger than other sports IMO... but I do agree baseball has some fun moments with "unknowns" taking center stage.
Basketball and football I just don't think there's much argument for, generally.
Willoughby
2004-05-23, 21:17
Jeezus could you guys make this thread any MORE boring? Sheesh ;)
Basketball and football I just don't think there's much argument for, generally.
What about the Super Bowl the Ravens won? Is Trent Dilfer a super-star now too? Ray Lewis...that was it...
Also, look at the Memphis Grizzlies. They made a meaningful run at the play-offs with nobody. The tough thing about basketball is that only 5 players get a lion's share of the minutes.
Jeezus could you guys make this thread any MORE boring? Sheesh ;)
Tuesday can't get here fast enough....
:D
InactionMan
2004-05-24, 09:59
Moogs, are going to update the standings? Or are you too embarrassed by your place in the standings? :p
A total abomination... my score that is. I don't think I've ever done so poorly in a pool. The odd thing was, I was going to rank Calgary higher because of how Kipper was playing going into the playoffs but I didn't think they could beat Vancouver. Homerism strikes again!
Anyway, sorry. I will get right on that; had a busy day yesterday.
Standings after three rounds:
scottiB: 165
CuriousBurb: 141
BuonRotto: 140
InactionMan: 132
Rageous: 132
Cam'rom: 132
Chinney: 128
Willoughby: 123
Moogs: 108 (broke 100, woo-hoo!)
curiousuburb
2004-05-24, 21:14
congrats scottiB
uncatchable. well picked.
Pathetic results on my part (no way to improve my score all that much at this point). At least I beat Moogs.
I screwed myself by picking Dallas and Ottawa as high as I did. I should've dropped those two lower (based on their streaky play) and added a darkhorse or two in the upper ranks. Also didn't help that I had San Jose almost at the bottom of the list.
InactionMan
2004-05-25, 01:06
I guess scottie B is going to win.
To make it interesting we should have lightning round. Before each game pick which team will win and who will score the winning goal. If you're right - five bonus points! And if you get the right team but don't pick the player - No Points for You!
Extra points if you declare the game will go into OT.
I guess scottie B is going to win.
To make it interesting we should have lightning round. Before each game pick which team will win and who will score the winning goal. If you're right - five bonus points! And if you get the right team but don't pick the player - No Points for You!
Extra points if you declare the game will go into OT.
Nah, it would be too random - and it would not give Scottie his due for good picks right from the start. We who picked Toronto or Detroit too high will just have to cry in our Molsons (actually, it would be a Brick Brewery product in my case, but the message should be clear).
How about this: for every correct game predication I get 5 points, 5 more if I guess the score, and 5 more still if I guess the GW scorer. If I get two of three, everyone else loses 5 points also.
:D
Willoughby
2004-05-26, 07:28
I just thought of something......is anyone here actually rooting for Tampa Bay?
< crickets >
Sorry. Can't in good conscience do that, not with Calgary's tradition and their fans and the fact that hockey is a Canadian game. Tampa Bay needs to spend a few more years building a tradition of their own before I'm going to root for them in the Finals. Better than having Florida or (God forbid) Atlanta in the finals I will admit, because Tampa has some very respectable players and a great playing style offensively, but no... I'm for Calgary all the way.
Even if they did squeek by [Lee Ermey]my beloved Canucks[/Lee Ermey] in 7. :mad:
;)
Willoughby
2004-05-26, 19:21
Tampa Bay can't win anyway. No team has defeated the Habs in the Playoffs and gone on to win the cup since the league expanded in the 60s. It is TB's destiny to lose. ;)
Oooo. That's a good "obscure stat ª". I'm going to have to remember that one for future reference when the Bruins beat the habs and wind up playing the Canucks for the Cup. Would be a good series, dontcha think?
BTW, the Pens signed Maxime Talbot today... the kid has been unreal in QMJ this year. Will probably make the team from camp I imagine.
InactionMan
2004-05-28, 07:50
What did Calgary lose? Do they want to make Canada cry? No more losing, Calgary!
Calgary only played their game for a total of about 20 minutes last night. The rest of the time they allowed TB to dictate the tempo and style of play. That said, TB was on their game and made a good showing after a tough loss (as they always seem to do). I think Calgary had better find a way to win both of these home games or they could be in some trouble; the ice in Tampa isn't going to help their transition game much (which they obviously rely on pretty heavily with their counter-attacking style).
curiousuburb
2004-05-29, 20:11
red shirt ready for game three
*pours beer*
go flames!
Whoa, Iginla and Lecavalier in a nice little tilt. Nice to see some emotion early in this game.
:D
curiousuburb
2004-05-29, 21:10
some nice hitting in the first, too
hope the rest of the game builds on that
I haven't seen hitting like that in a long time. Some REALLY good open ice hits... Lukowich almost had his frickin' spine bust in half when he got hit behind the net. Good old time hockey.
heh heh
curiousuburb
2004-05-29, 21:39
he shoots he scooooooores!
flames up 1-0
He Scooooooooooooooooooorrrresssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2-0!!!!!!
curiousuburb
2004-05-29, 21:46
he shoots he scooooooores!
flames up 2-0
Really hard-nosed game. The first period was awesome with all that hitting. Hopefully Fedotenko is not going to miss any games from that tussle with the dasher. Brutal.
And of course, Clement, Clement Mouth of Cement says in the same breath that "it reminds him of what Claude Lemieux did to Draper" and then "but obviously Rehger didn't mean to hurt Fedotenko." Yah, then in that case they MUST be similar situations, since what Lemieux did was intentional and disgusting.
Awesome game. Perfect game for the Flames to play.
BTW, if you want to see how we celebrate victories up here, go to www.flamesgirls.com.
:D
LOL. Greatest fan site... EVER!
Some of those chics are on the skany side but definitely a few nice ones. Lucky bastard... so is there like one Flames girl for every guy walking around in downtown Calgary after a big W?
:D
Yeah, there's a big pile of girls waiting at the exits, and you pair up as you're leaving. Guaranteed one hummer. It's pretty cool.
:lol: <---- no one has fixed this YET?! :p
Evidently not. Either way the men of Calgary must be one happy, smiling lot this afternoon, if they all got hummers after the game.
Looks like Fedotenko is probable for tonight's game. Glad to see he didn't end up with a fractured cheek bone or anything like that. I'm sure he'll be black and blue though... he already had a pretty good bruise / swelling going right when he got up, so we'll see.
1-0... FUBAR. Flames had lots of good scoring chances though. Khabibulin just stoned them, pretty much. The rest of the Bolts didn't play particularly well IMO, even the D made a lot of stupid mistakes. The goalie bailed them out though so what can you say.
Did you guys notice if Fedotenko was playing? I don't recall seeing him all night, even though I'm sure he would've been easy to recognize.
curiousuburb
2004-06-05, 19:42
off to the pub for flamesgirls and flexing of the pint muscles
Go Calgary!
FUCK!
The Flames better stay out of the friggin box the rest of the game or they're in trouble. Fekking Brad Richards... the rat bastard.
:mad: :p
Heart attack imminent... must... regain composure...
One period for all the marbles. Someone keep the nitro glycerin handy.
:wow:
Stay calm. Stay calm. :p The world will unfold as it should.
What a game! Flames look great, if they can keep that energy up, I think they'll take it.
BTW, I'm cruising around during the intermission, and go to check out the Mini Coopers.
www.mini.ca
Tell me that Flames Mini isn't the coolest goddamned car in the world. I WANT ONE.
:)
Indeed; a vehicle for the masses.
Excuse me now while I have a nervous breakdown before the 2nd OT starts.
Damnit.
I guess it was inevitable that this series was going to go 7. Tampa always seems to win after a tough loss and Calgary never quite seems able to put teams away at home....
Let's hope that Calgary can find a way to make all those Tampa fans watch the opposing team skate Lord Stanley in their building... after a Gelinas GWG. Would be only too fitting.
thegelding
2004-06-06, 00:04
does this mean no flamegirls loving tonight??
finals are always best when they go to 7
g
You said it. Plenty of rough sex in Calgary tonight....
:D
This is one of the most poorly officiated games I've seen all playoff long.
TB gets powerplays every dive they take, and Calgary doesn't get shit called when TB drags Iginla to the ice by his arm or trips him. Fucking refs litening to the league again before the game. Just call it tight both ways or let them play!
God I hate it when refs meddle with big games.
:mad: :mad: :mad:
Agreed - this game is just... fricked. I am surprised at how clean it's been kept overall though.
Damn.
Damn, damn, damn, damn, damn.
tough loss mur...
condolences... (http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/waiwai/index.html)
Stay calm. Stay calm. :p The world will unfold as it should.
Or not. :(
:( :(
I was so sure they could pull it off. 1 goal away from being the first team in Stanley Cup history to defeat four division winners for the big prize. I can't help but wonder if that took a bit out of them but they were hungry right till the very last second... literally. I'm just glad it didn't end up being the officiating that decided it. Calgary had some serious pressure on them the last 8 or 9 minutes. Khabibulin made two saves that had no business hitting anything but twine... just awesome saves. Kipper had one too against Vinny (little poetic justice I guess).
In the end though I was glad to see Andreychuk skate Lord Stanley. Happy for Khabibulin and St. Louis also. Ference's hit wasn't really a penalty but more of a freak stick to the head. He was facing the opposite side of the ice so there's no way it was boarding, and he was practically on his butt when Ferrence leaned into him so it wasn't high sticking either. I guess they had to call it but it didn't matter in the end. TB played the better game.
The Cup won't make it to Calgary I don't think but at least it will spend a couple days in PEI.
:)
Fuck man, that was brutal. That penalty on Ferrence was fucking bullshit. St. Louis is squatting like he's trying to either take a shit or sit on a goatse buttplug, of course he's going to get his fucking bell rung.
Tough loss. I'm actually surprised my house escaped unscathed. Well, I did pound a beer can into my new filing cabinet and dented the top in... but the beer came off the wall surprisingly easy.
Is this where I'm supposed to say There's Always Next Year?
Maybe in a case or two...
*sigh*
Amen, brother... I just want there to BE a next season. The World Cup won't be enough, even though it should be fun to watch. Next time, set up a video camera so we can see you smash beer cans into filing cabinets and spray brew everywhere. I could use a good laugh right about now... or a good lay. Anything to stop reminding me a team from fekking Florida just won the Cup.
Still, at least it wasn't the Crapitals. Then the earth would truly spin off its axis and we'd all die. Leonsis must never touch the Cup... never I say!!
:devil:
InactionMan
2004-06-08, 00:20
Not that I'm not pissed over the Flames loss, it was good to see Anreychuck(sp?) raise the Cup. He deserved it.
So we get the Worlds then no more Hockey for a while. Drat. What the hell am I going to do on Saturday nights next winter??? It's going to be a long, cold winter in the Great White North. :mad:
curiousuburb
2004-06-08, 01:21
In an attempt to cheer myself up after the flames loss,and to make up for the fact that I'd finally found a pub of hot flamesgirls in red bras and tube tops awaiting celebration, only to find the score going the wrong way, :mad:
thought I'd check http://lightninggirls.com to see if www.flamesgirls.com trumps it
(since the pregame shots clearly showed Tampa fans less, uh, bouncy, than Calgary)
seems senor myden managed to scoop both domains...
Canucks next year (fingers crossed).
and I bet I can guess murbot's diary entry tonight. :p
Go Canucks, baby! If Bert hadn't made his mess, they might've gone considerably further than they did. I think they could've beaten Detroit at least....
At least we're getting a really cool commemorative coin out of this:
http://homepage.mac.com/murbot/.Pictures/AI/flames_girls_coin.jpg
:D
MUST get one... if you find out it's not a joke, order me one. I'll PM you my address.
:D
And on one final note...
The greatest hockey fans on earth (http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=87030), and I'm a Canuck-junky.
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