AppleNova Forums http://forums.applenova.com/ AppleNova is a community of discussion forums for intelligent and savvy Mac users. en Sun, 20 May 2012 16:00:22 GMT vBulletin 60 http://forums.applenova.com/images/misc/rss.jpg AppleNova Forums http://forums.applenova.com/ The Apple Television Set http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=36777&goto=newpost Sun, 20 May 2012 15:44:35 GMT
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It makes perfect sense. TVs are a known variable, capacitive touchscreen tablets were not when iPad came out. TVs are a well established market, and TVs are widely known to have thin margins. Samsung and LG charge between $3k and $4k for a 65" TV; there's no way Apple could beat that since an Apple television would be the exact same television with a $99 tv built in.
The same can be said for macs. The same can be said for phones. The same could be said for MP3 players. Apple is doing fine. Apple is able to make a cheaper "ultra book" than anyone, to the point where manufacturers are begging Intel to subsidize their products to compete.

Samsung and LG are building in their own "Apple TV" these days into their Smart TVs.

You are also failing to appreciate the added value an Apple produced TV might carry. This is no different than any other Apple market. The others are in a race to the bottom. Apple is happy to take the cream of the crop. How do you think Dell is doing these days? I guess 4-5 years ago you would have said Apple could NEVER compete with Dell. Why sell computers? I'd hate to see what you would have said about Apple vs. Dell 12 years ago. Apple should have left the computer business! No way to compete on such a low margin, highly competitive, established, product!

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36 million iPhones is a drop in the bucket. 36 million iPhones is statistically insignificant compared to the seven billion people living on this little blue marble. There are still tons of people who think you can't get a decent Mac for under two thousand. iPhone is this weird aberration that everyone knows about because you can buy them from carriers, but most iPhone owners have never set foot in an Apple Store, and most iPhone owners own no other Apple products. The "Apple is expensive" stereotype is thriving; I still have the "you can get a MacBook Pro for $1,199" conversation with family friends and friends of friends on a regular basis.
You're in denial for the sake of your argument. Over half of Americans have some sort of Apple product today (http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/29/tech/g...cts/index.html

Sure, count the entire world population, count everyone over the age of 70 and everyone below the age of 15 and everyone in third world countries, etc.....

Apple is the most adored company in the world, the strongest brand, the biggest market cap, the biggest selling, etc (tops in almost every category).

The people you speak of are a dying breed and the minority. That's the fact. ]]> Speculation and Rumors Brave Ulysses http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=36777 WWDC 2012 Speculation Thread http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=36772&goto=newpost Sun, 20 May 2012 15:36:29 GMT
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Originally Posted by Kraetos (Post 753663)
There hasn't been hardware at WWDC for two years. There hasn't been hardware other than iPhone at WWDC for five. Last year, Apple released new Mac minis and MacBook Airs a mere month after WWDC, so it seems like Apple is trying to remove hardware from WWDC entirely.
There is no pattern there. There is no basis for stating one way or the other. If Apple has a new line of MacBooks ready to go, they will announce it. Everyone loves hardware.


A "mere" month? A month is a long time to pre announce a computer update. You want Apple to kill their laptop sales for a month? If they were announced a month after WWDC I'm guessing they were not ready a month earlier at WWDC.

Pretty simple. Apple announces when it is convenient from them. There is no set in stone rule about hardware announcements at WWDC. It's like people last year arguing that the iPhone would NEVER be released in October. Apple doesn't care what they have done previously or have set patterns.

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The fact that there are more Apple rumors flying around these days would support my "more bullshit" assertion, not your "lips are getting looser" assertion. The amount of info we've been able to glean directly from Apple hasn't changed much in ten years, but each year it gets tougher and tougher to wade through the bullshit. You seem to be taking the bullshit as gospel, but we don't know if it's bullshit or actual secrets until Apple opens their yap.

You can't argue Apple's lips are getting looser just because more people like to talk about Apple. I can't recall any uptick—we knew about the Intel switch ahead of time, but only by a few weeks, and that was in 2005. It seems to be pretty much the same today. Apple can keep it a secret until were within a month or so, and then it leaks, either intentionally or unintentionally. This hasn't really changed much in recent memory.
huh? Are you not reading what I write? Sure, there is a lot more bullshit now. That's what happens when you can't really keep your supply chain a secret anymore because there are so many hands involved and so much money and the lead time is so great on a new product release.

What I said, was 3 specific sources, who are very reputable, and have consistently been used as news outlets for Apple, have been sharing a whole lot more information lately, especially this past week. Apple uses these outlets, especially the WSJ, to control expectations. They have done that more and more over the past 2-3 years, much more so than ever.

And as chucker said, outside of Mountain Lion, there have not been a whole lot of surprises in a while. There was a lot of bullshit around the iPhone 4S, but everything about it had been leaked if you were able to decipher what was accurate and what was not. Typically, if the NYTimes or WSJ or Bloomberg write something, it's pretty much accurate from Apple.

and even with Mountain Lion, Apple gave limited press a preview the week before, and Schiller even hinted to John Gruber at his meeting, that Apple was "handling things a little different" now. ]]> Speculation and Rumors Brave Ulysses http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=36772 Mac OS X Lion http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=35965&goto=newpost Sun, 20 May 2012 12:37:25 GMT
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Originally Posted by tomoe (Post 736171)
Hrm, appears Apple removed fine-grain volume control in Lion.
Looks like it's back in 10.7.4!

I'll never understand why Apple won't put improvements like that in the release notes. ]]> Apple Products chucker http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=35965 Brave New World Adventure Nights http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=36782&goto=newpost Sun, 20 May 2012 05:03:08 GMT Also damn you autocorrect Also damn you autocorrect ]]> GamingNova Stevuh http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=36782 Commercials you love or hate http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=17941&goto=newpost Sun, 20 May 2012 04:24:05 GMT This isn't a commercial, but it is excellent fucking advertising.

]]> AppleOutsider murbot http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=17941 <![CDATA[Can't access certain websites]]> http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=36764&goto=newpost Sun, 20 May 2012 04:07:36 GMT Pitchforks at dawn! Pitchforks at dawn! ]]> Genius Bar _Ω_ http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=36764 MC: Unkown Structures, Abandoned Mines, Land Claims, etc. http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=35781&goto=newpost Sun, 20 May 2012 03:43:15 GMT Image: http://i.imgur.com/zDlwa.jpg Cactuar is in desperate need of some eateries. One has just been constructed here.

Cactuar is in desperate need of some eateries. One has just been constructed here. ]]> GamingNova Brad http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=35781 <![CDATA[the YouTube, Google Video thread...post your "gems"]]> http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=18718&goto=newpost Sun, 20 May 2012 03:18:26 GMT Tribute to Christopher Hitchens - 2012 Global Atheist Convention

Great video. ]]> AppleOutsider murbot http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=18718 Digital Camera Chat http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=35445&goto=newpost Sun, 20 May 2012 01:51:24 GMT SU-4 mode runs in auto mode, using the flashes own light meter, it will also work with non-CLS flashes as the commander. SU-4 mode runs in auto mode, using the flashes own light meter, it will also work with non-CLS flashes as the commander. ]]> Third-Party Products PB PM http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=35445 iCloud vs Mail vs 10.5.8 (and older) http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=36723&goto=newpost Sun, 20 May 2012 00:46:01 GMT Looks like the router may have also been an issue on this one. While I could receive emails, sending was another story. Also helped the delete the MobileMe IMAP account and just use IMAP. Looks like the router may have also been an issue on this one. While I could receive emails, sending was another story. Also helped the delete the MobileMe IMAP account and just use IMAP. ]]> Genius Bar _Ω_ http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=36723 Facebook to buy Instagram http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=36716&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 20:31:20 GMT :p . . . :p



. . . ]]> General Discussion FFL http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=36716 Color Photography Sharing Thread http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=21241&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 18:46:28 GMT Not sure, they were there when I arrived on location. ;) These little Swallows do everything fast... so who knows. Not sure, they were there when I arrived on location. ;) These little Swallows do everything fast... so who knows. ]]> Creative Endeavors PB PM http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=21241 <![CDATA[Sherlock [BBC Series]]]> http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=35232&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 14:38:22 GMT
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Originally Posted by Eugene (Post 753609)
That's what makes them so great. Each episode is what, 90m long compared to 42m for a typical US-based primetime show. The series is distilled into a pure form rather than having filler episodes every couple of weeks.
I suppose... ]]> AppleOutsider Maciej http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=35232 MC: Server Down? http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=35776&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 11:34:36 GMT You can still play using your web browser. You can still play using your web browser. ]]> GamingNova Foj http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=35776 Photo Challenge Thread (PCT): Colors http://forums.applenova.com//showthread.php?t=36756&goto=newpost Sat, 19 May 2012 03:26:38 GMT This is what I have for now. I am not entirely happy with it, but I'll see if I have time for a replacement entry - I might not.


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