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2012-04-14, 07:57

Does Lion 10.7 come with Java installed or is this something I would have had to do myself? I am wondering about running the tool.

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2012-04-14, 08:27

Mac OS X 10.7 Lion does not ship with Java. It downloads as an on-demand install when needed. Run Software Update to be sure.
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2012-04-14, 08:53

Thanks chucker,

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2012-04-14, 17:19

That said, Java isn't something you really have to go out of your way to find and install with 10.7. Mac OS X will prompt you and automatically download and install the JRE (Java Runtime Environment) the first time you try to run a Java app.

If you want to know if you have Java installed, try to open /Applications/Utilities/Java Preferences.app. If you have Java installed, it will open and give you various options. Else, it will prompt you with a question asking you if you want to install Java (or exit).

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2012-04-29, 16:34

I know that the Flashback threat is dying (if not dead), but. Am disappointed in Apple by not releasing a removal tool or update for MacOS X versions before Snow Leopard. I mean my mum still run Leopard and I had to run the terminal commands to check it hadn't picked up anything dodgy.

I know that at OSs have an end of life but Leopard isn't that old and since this is a security issue I would have liked Apple to look after everyone.
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2012-04-29, 17:38

Apple's security policy has, for many years, been to provide updates for the current and previous version. Microsoft has a far lengthier support policy than that. I'm torn on this — if you're still on Leopard, either your machine is a PowerPC, and therefore six-ish (likely more) years old, or you didn't want to spend $29 for Snow Leopard, which, between Leopard and now, would have worked out to ~$6 per year.

I'm far more concerned with the millions of iOS devices that cannot be upgraded and have known security issues.
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2012-04-29, 21:24

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Apple's security policy has, for many years, been to provide updates for the current and previous version. Microsoft has a far lengthier support policy than that. I'm torn on this — if you're still on Leopard, either your machine is a PowerPC, and therefore six-ish (likely more) years old, or you didn't want to spend $29 for Snow Leopard, which, between Leopard and now, would have worked out to ~$6 per year.

I'm far more concerned with the millions of iOS devices that cannot be upgraded and have known security issues.
I think Snow Leopard is free now, though I believe there are some strings attached.
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2012-04-30, 03:14

I think that's only the case for Mobile Me customers, which were previously paying an annual fee.
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2012-04-30, 03:26

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I think that's only the case for Mobile Me customers, which were previously paying an annual fee.
Ah, well that would be quite a string indeed.
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2012-04-30, 04:21

Might be recommendable to wait another couple of months and then going straight to 10.8 Mountain Lion, in any case (assuming the machine is recent enough).
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2012-05-01, 02:12

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Apple's security policy has, for many years, been to provide updates for the current and previous version. Microsoft has a far lengthier support policy than that. I'm torn on this — if you're still on Leopard, either your machine is a PowerPC, and therefore six-ish (likely more) years old, or you didn't want to spend $29 for Snow Leopard, which, between Leopard and now, would have worked out to ~$6 per year.

I'm far more concerned with the millions of iOS devices that cannot be upgraded and have known security issues.
Yeah I guess that has been Apple's policy for a while, but I reckon that critical security patches hold still covered, at least for Leopard. Especially if Apple moves to this update every year. Within 2 years you could a system has un-patched security holes.

Oh well I guess that we will see how it goes.
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