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psmith2.0
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2007-09-17, 21:27



http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/09/10...val/index.html

Been saying this for years...some people are made for tattoos. Some, frankly, aren't. The ones who aren't always look dumb with them, and wind up regretting it and incurring a lot of hassle and expense trying to undo the work.

Dumb-ass trendies who get ornate, visible ink when they're drunk (or egged on by equally vapid friends, and trying to "fit in") are about as stupid and irresponsible as they come. If you're not prepared to look beyond, oh, "two or three years", and realize it's a life-time commitment, just be smart and don't get one.

A sobering thought for all the sorority bubbleheads and bar skanks with the "lower back jizz target" tats...if you got it because all your friends had one, guess what? It's a fad for people like you, but, unlike a funky hairstyle, unusual piercing or trendy clothes...you're kinda stuck with this particular pursuit. You can't "grow it out", drop it off at Goodwill or make it fade before your wedding next Saturday.

That's why I love women who are ballsy and dedicated enough to do it the right way, for the right reasons. There ain't no removing that! Damn, that's sexy!

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2007-09-17, 21:47

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A sobering thought for all the sorority bubbleheads and bar skanks with the "lower back jizz target" tats...
No more dolphins or butterflies! Please!
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2007-09-17, 22:00

Yeah, if I go the rest of my life and never see another 1" dolphin on an ankle (with some schmaltzy bullcrap about what it symbolizes/represents to the owner) I'll be just fine.

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2007-09-17, 22:00

Just remember - that tribal or tramp stamp is going to look HOT on the 90 yr. old in the senior center!
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2007-09-17, 22:01

http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/17/w...-zune-tattoos/

IMO, one small tattoo somewhere on your body isn't bad... A Zune... THREE Zune tattoos though?
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2007-09-17, 22:03

The article touched on something about a new tattoo ink that is in development that is designed to be easier to remove. I think that ultimately, we develop tattoo technology that is as easy to remove as it is to add, and then there will be a schism in the hipster community over old-school permanent tattoos and newfangled half-permanent tattoos. Many posers will become friendless and dumbasses will continue to get stupid tattoos.

That being said. I really don't mind when people get dumb tattoos, there is usually still a pretty good story behind them, and, depending on the person, it is usually pretty easy to simply forget they have it, even, surprisingly, when it is a clearly visible tattoo. Over time, you just stop thinking about it, and it might as well just be their regular skin.
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2007-09-17, 22:05

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http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/17/w...-zune-tattoos/

IMO, one small tattoo somewhere on your body isn't bad... A Zune... THREE Zune tattoos though?
It's kind of funny though, because really, the Zune icon is probably the best designed aspect of the entire Zune project. Personally, I have always been a fan(although the color scheme is kind of lame, the shapes are pretty nice and marginally clever), completely detached from the Zune product, the design isn't the worst design you could get, especially if your name was Zak or Zed or something. But, as it stands, the guy is kind of a dumbass.
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2007-09-17, 22:08

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Just remember - that tribal or tramp stamp is going to look HOT on the 90 yr. old in the senior center!
This is the worst argument against getting a tattoo that goes around. I am sure you will have much other things on your mind when you are 90 than whether or not your tattoo still looks good. If anything, the faded wrinkly ink on your body will be a good thing to remind you of happier days and generally give you something to think about other than whether or not you are about to shit yourself.
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2007-09-17, 22:14

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http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/17/w...-zune-tattoos/

IMO, one small tattoo somewhere on your body isn't bad...
No, something small and truly meaningful to the person...I've got no beef with that.

But I'm talking about a specific type of person here though; the ones who get them for the flimsiest of reasons. Or get something really tacky or gruesome (and in a funky, hard-to-conceal area) and never think about the future.

I mean, if you're a biker, tattoo artist, circus performer, professional musician (an actual one, not a wannabe), etc. and it's clear you're not cut out to walk the standard beat in life (due to your outlook, occupation, hobbies and interests, etc.), by all means...get the sleeves or whatever. That's cool as can be, and I can look at Brian Setzer's arms for hours I'm sure.



But if you're some college goober and you're looking to go into business management or whatever, take five minutes and use your damn head and try to fast-forward 5-10 years and really think hard about if that "tarantula smoking a joint" is the kind of thing you really want on the side of your neck.



I know people who've gotten things and they regret it so much. But they didn't think it through, they listened to others, they were trying to do or be something that's not really them, etc.

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A Zune... THREE Zune tattoos though?


Okay, now that is funny.

Hell as much as I adore Apple and everything they do and represent, I'll take a chainsaw to the nuts before I'd get anything this silly (Apple logo) permanently branded to my body. I wouldn't even get Fender, Gibson or something like that either. And I've been playing guitar on Fender and Gibson products twice as long as I've been using Macs, so...

Gosh, things change...priorities, preferences, moods, etc.

A Zune? A Zune?!?



The damn thing won't even exist two years from now, most likely...

I bet he has a Zima one on his other arm.

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2007-09-17, 22:15

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The article touched on something about a new tattoo ink that is in development that is designed to be easier to remove. I think that ultimately, we develop tattoo technology that is as easy to remove as it is to add, and then there will be a schism in the hipster community over old-school permanent tattoos and newfangled half-permanent tattoos. Many posers will become friendless and dumbasses will continue to get stupid tattoos.


I love how the reasoned, well-stated analysis ends up in such clearly-stated, blunt terms.

That was funny...made me cackle out loud.
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2007-09-17, 22:23

It is something I have thought about a fair bit actually. I've known some people who got some really retarded tattoos, like, no redeeming value at all, on a whim, 19-22 year olds, possibly drunk or high at time of inking...etc.

And I have often thought about the fact that there probably is a pretty large demand for semi-permanent tattoos. Being, a tattoo ink that will not fade for many years, but can be easily removed if you want. It is almost surprising to me that the technology hasn't already been developed and implemented, but I imagine the vast majority of tattoo artists would scoff at the notion, it seems like the 'industry' of tattoos could only stand to benefit. Dumb kids get their opportunity to be inked, and smart tattoo parlors get more repeat customers.

I wonder how long it will be until we have tattoos that can change color or animate themselves, a la harry potter. Seems like it is only a couple of breakthroughs away.
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2007-09-17, 22:47

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This is the worst argument against getting a tattoo that goes around. I am sure you will have much other things on your mind when you are 90 than whether or not your tattoo still looks good. If anything, the faded wrinkly ink on your body will be a good thing to remind you of happier days and generally give you something to think about other than whether or not you are about to shit yourself.
Ever spend any time in an old folks home? I have. The very last thing to go is self image. 90 yr olds primping happens all the time.

My 80 yr old mom is a perfect example, as was my 95 yr old Grandmother.
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2007-09-17, 22:48

In the Navy there are tattoos everywhere. Just about every port we pull into there is a tattoo shop full of our sailors adding another to their collection. I went on many of the trip to the parlors with some of my buddies but I never walked out of one inked. Most of the time the kids going in knew what they wanted. Many had the design on paper ready for the artist to make it a reality for them...

Then there were the tag alongs who got caught up in the moment. They went with a buddy (like I always did) but yet couldn't say no to the temptation. Inevitably, they walked out with Mickey Mouse, Beavis, Big Earl or some other crap like that on their arm or back. Before we ever got home they would be heading to medical asking the Corpman how they can get them removed.

This would be a great case for semi-permanent tattoos, but I just don't see it becoming a reality any time soon. God knows those kids could use something like this. The good part for the sailors is that the Navy medical system is now offering tattoo removal.

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2007-09-17, 23:06

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Ever spend any time in an old folks home? I have. The very last thing to go is self image. 90 yr olds primping happens all the time.

My 80 yr old mom is a perfect example, as was my 95 yr old Grandmother.
That's fine, but it's still a very weak argument for not getting a tattoo.
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2007-09-17, 23:32

I always liked the anti-tattoo argument put forth by the Red vs. Blue guys.

"Think of yourself 10 years ago. Were you smart back then? No, you were a god damn idiot. You're just as stupid now, it'll just take you ten more years to realize it. If you were to draw a picture on your body ten years ago, would you still be happy with it? Of course not."
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psmith2.0
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2007-09-17, 23:44

Exactly.

Again, there are those who fit this and you can't imagine them not covered in ink, for whatever reason (and I dig those).

But for most of us...think of all the things you were into, and considered "important", 10-20 years ago. For most of us, we're so different now: music, movies, books, how we see the world, the kind of art/design we like, our tastes in color, the things we believe and support, the things we think are lame and idiotic, etc.

If you're 35, simply think back 20 years to your 15-year-old self. Eeek! Recognize anything? I didn't think so...

Think back just 10 years, to 25. Who's that guy?!?

Now...think ahead 10 years, to 45. Suddenly that Limp Korn tattoo across your back doesn't seem like such a hot idea, does it?

It's just a funny thought to me...in 50 or so years, all these grannies running around grossing out (or scaring) the living hell out of their grandkids with the dragon on their leg, etc.

Nothing like accidentally walking in on your naked granny coming out of the tub, and spying the exquisitely-shaded 5" scorpion directly above her platinum silver cooter. Tell me that wouldn't give a five-year-old horrific nightmares for a decade or so.

"Billy simply stopped talking three weeks ago; we don't know what happened to him. He just stares out the window and whimpers to himself. But we're flying him to a specialist in Rhode Island next Tuesday...".



Mark my words: in 40 or so years, we're going to be seeing stories on CNN about the "tattooed grandmas" sector of the population. The story will talk about how "so many women, back in the 1990's and early part of the 21st century, took part in a popular trend; they got tattoos. By the thousands, from all walks of life..."

It'll be like Baby Boomers or Generation X. There will be magazines, TV shows, etc.

"Silver Ink", they'll dub it.

Then we'll have to sit and listen to a bunch of caterwauling and sniffling talk about how "we've paid for our youthful, rash decisions in ways I could never have imagined...I really thought Dave Matthews hung the moon; getting his face tattooed onto my right breast seemed like a good idea back in 2002...".

Gee, I can't wait.


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2007-09-17, 23:48

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This is the worst argument against getting a tattoo that goes around. I am sure you will have much other things on your mind when you are 90 than whether or not your tattoo still looks good. If anything, the faded wrinkly ink on your body will be a good thing to remind you of happier days and generally give you something to think about other than whether or not you are about to shit yourself.
+1

Great post, and thanks for the good laugh at the end.

OK, the fat guy with the tattoos. Is there something my old-ass is missing?

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There wasn't enough skin on him to fit welcome on one line? Or is the exact spacing of that line special?
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psmith2.0
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2007-09-17, 23:56

A result of poor planning/last minute font change?

And people call us Mac users a "cult".

The weirdest thing about that Zune guy is a) that someone would think that mediocre-at-best media player is something actually worth branding on to their skin to begin with (you may as well get a tattoo of a $1.49 convenience store cigarette lighter), and b) that they're so unaware of the utter "poot in a lighthouse" reception the Zune has gotten, why they would think it's something truly iconic and going to be meaningful in 5-10 years (hell, 18 months).



The poor guy's dad probably has an Edsel tattoo...

It's genetic.

"Continuing the proud, clueless tradition of permanently branding lame shit onto ourselves! My father did it before me, I did it and, one day, my son will carry on..."
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2007-09-18, 00:18

I think the "Zune tattoo guy" is an attention whore. That's why he keeps on going back for more ink, but I don't think he realizes it's entirely negative attention (aside from his close e-buddies at The-Zune-Scene.net or whatever).

I can see myself getting a tattoo...well, wait, no I can't. I'm not opposed to them in theory, but I'm really not the "type." One of my friends wants a tattoo of a fleur-de-lis on her shoulder, and she's wanted it for years and years and she's never changed her mind once. So I think, for her, it's a pretty safe bet.

But then again, my brother got this weird tribal-looking barbed wire thing around his arm. Uh, yeah, he'll regret it.

I'm not impulsive, but I doubt I'll ever be "sure enough" to get a tattoo either. But if I ever was...if I wanted, like, a couplet from a poem I wrote or something, I wouldn't be opposed to the idea.

Maybe I'll get one when I'm ninety, so I have no time to regret it.

and i guess i've known it all along / the truth is, you have to be soft to be strong
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2007-09-18, 00:55

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And people call us Mac users a "cult".
Well, to be fair, I think there are a lot more people getting Apple logos tattooed than Zune(or any other tech device/company for that matter)
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psmith2.0
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2007-09-18, 01:06

Yeah, but to be fair back, we actually have a good, legit reason...
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2007-09-18, 01:24

Alright, bonus round: What is lamer?

A person getting a tattoo of a product logo or a person getting a tattoo inspired by a product logo, but replacing the logo name with something else(e.g. the ford logo with the word JESUS in the place of FORD)
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2007-09-18, 02:10

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Alright, bonus round: What is lamer?

A person getting a tattoo of a product logo or a person getting a tattoo inspired by a product logo, but replacing the logo name with something else(e.g. the ford logo with the word JESUS in the place of FORD)
The latter. Especially if it's religious.

I'm not anti-religion, but faithifying a product logo is just uber-lame. It's like all those "Jesus-ized" t-shirts you see at Christian gift shops. "Remember that popular marketing campaign from four years ago? This is just like that, only with Jesus!" I swear I still see "got Jesus?" shirts for sale. Not. Clever. People.

and i guess i've known it all along / the truth is, you have to be soft to be strong
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2007-09-18, 03:58

Frankly it amazes me that anyone would care so much about what other people do to their own body.

Sometimes I see a certain tattoo and say, "Wow, I could never do that to myself", but it certainly doesn't mean I see that person as 'stupid' or 'vapid' or a 'dumb-ass trendie'. Those are pretty strong words if you ask me, especially for something that really should have no effect on your life whatsoever.

Don't like tattoos? Fine, don't get one...



Do you know how many things people do that negatively impact their futures? I imagine, in the grand scheme of things, that tattoos are pretty low on the list.

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2007-09-18, 05:11

I believe I made it crystal clear, several times, that:
- I have no problem at all with them...I actually really like them
- I'm talking about a specific situation, as it relates to this story
- Having actually known several people in this boat, I can talk about their experience
- The issue was never tattoos themselves; it is rash, impulsive and, yes, "trendy" types entering into it without a lot of thought

Apparently it's becoming a concern and an issue for many, otherwise there wouldn't be a story about it.

I see no need to sugarcoat or dress up things, or call it by something it isn't, just so someone doesn't think it's "harsh". I've actually read several of these kinds of stories over the past year or so, and the people themselves are citing their impulsive or trendy tendencies as the reason they now have something on their bodies that they're no longer 100% crazy about.

How would you frame it, or describe it? If people are choosing to permanently mark up their bodies because "others are doing it", then that's as silly and "trendy" of a reason as I can think of. It's the very definition of it! And when those same people actually cop to it themselves, then it's damn fair game to frame the talk in that way. Why wouldn't we? Worry less about what I think about something and, instead, mind the overall story and the meat of it. It's a concern to someone if they did indeed go out and do something this permanent with no real thought.

Nowhere did I say "all tattoos" or all people with one. You almost have to purposely ignore that very obvious thing to have that response.
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2007-09-18, 05:15

Tattoos.
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2007-09-18, 05:34

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I believe I made it crystal clear, several times, that:
- I have no problem at all with them...I actually really like them
- I'm talking about a specific situation, as it relates to this story
- Having actually known several people in this boat, I can talk about their experience
- The issue was never tattoos themselves; it is rash, impulsive and, yes, "trendy" types entering into it without a lot of thought

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Yes, you have indeed made your position exceedingly clear throughout this thread! I happen to agree with you entirely, aside from the fact that I don't particularly like tattoos anywhere near as much as you do. I have seen many that were extremely tastefully done and 'fit' the person donning them so perfectly, that like you said, you just can't imagine them without it. However, having been exposed to a lot of junior military, I have also seen far more brandings that were impulsive, peer-pressured, ultra tacky "marks of passage" in an attempt to be cool and fit in. This, I never understood!! For me, it always just served to identify the idiots in crowd, so I would know who to avoid the most! To properly appreciate the scenario, you must fully envision band geek proudly brandishing his freshly painted "biceps" covered in skulls and cross-bones, bloody swords, and various other graffiti that would make Hell's Angel's proud!!!
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2007-09-18, 06:56

I have nothing to contribute to this thread, I think you've all just about covered all the points. I hate to discover that someone has permanently marred a perfectly good woman's body... it's like when I see a hot girl pull out a cigarette. Bugger.

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2007-09-18, 06:56

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The good part for the sailors is that the Navy medical system is now offering tattoo removal.
lol Yet another good example of our tax dollars at work.

In Australia, female recruits are getting boob jobs.

touch here

The Bill of Rights prevents soldiers from moving into your house, but now you are expected to pick up the tab for their spa visits and vacations instead.

How far will this absurdity go? The soldiers will eventually want the government to apply the tattoos for free, too. Afterall, they "deserve" it.
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2007-09-18, 07:51

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Hell as much as I adore Apple and everything they do and represent, I'll take a chainsaw to the nuts before I'd get anything this silly (Apple logo) permanently branded to my body.
Remember Mulattabianca/Giaguara (at AI) and her apple tattoo?
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