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My EIZO is crazy expensive in the US, an odd thing because these goods are usually substantially cheaper there than in Europe. (Moogs' display is even more expensive, but you get a larger, higher-res, IPS panel, etc., for the extra money.)
In the US I'd look very closely at the NECs instead. NEC's marketing is seriously messed up in Europe: the necessary software to support the hardware calibration is unavailable or ridiculously priced (by contrast, EIZO includes it for free). In the US, however, there are some very attractive NEC bundles. When I last checked, admittedly a while ago, the Dells, etc., didn't support hardware calibration, i.e. they're not smart monitors. (Not saying you need that, of course.) |
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And because I want one of these so I can max out my COD settings at 1920x1200 :sarcasm:
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1. People who just need more memory / more computing power and need a different monitor 2. People who need specialized cards (in addition to point 1), e.g. for audio and video production or scientific applications. So I'd like to see a successor of the MacPro where the current model is split into two modules: 1. A core containing the processor, memory, drive bay and a graphics cards slot (maybe one additional slot, in case you want to upgrade e.g. to new interfaces) Should be smaller and cheaper than the current MacPro 2. A thunderbolt extension box (could be designed snap to the core box to become one enclosure) with expansion cards for those who need this expandability. A nice option would also be an 'entry' model with just the same motherboard than the high-end iMac to lure those people who want a desktop with a faster processor and graphics card than the mac mini and without the monitor of the iMac... My photos @ flickr The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. -- Benjamin Franklin |
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Latest rumors seem to be further spreading the doom and gloom. I am seeing the same shipping changes to 1-3 weeks when changing the stock configuration of each item (like changing the processor speed). Could be read either as "clearing the channel" or as "EOL soon because new CPU parts not close to ready AFAIWK."
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Part of what may be killing the Mac Pro is the number of users willing to make a hackintosh, order to build a similar system from scratch for less. That may not be a huge number of users, but in a time when desktop sales are sliding, every person that does not buy is hurting the future of such products. Add the current power in the high end iMac and you have poor Mac Pro sales.
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I think they'll keep it around for users that need it, but never actually price it down to the rest of us who just want it. That leaves the iMac and Macbook Pro. The problem with the iMac is the screen. Personally I think there's room for better iMac screen option. I don't mind using it, but calibrating it is hard, and when you dim the screen enough for real editing, reflection becomes much more annoying than at typical viewing brightness.
I think there's certainly room for a matte screen option , even if i get no other improvement in bit depth or gamut. But this is a mac pro thread. If they ever killed it, what would/could they replace it with? ......................................... |
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But are professionals ready to adopt iMacs, Macbooks, and mini's as their main machines? Mac Pros customers will want with something, maybe even a PC ?
If the technology landscape changes enough to make desktops extinct, then Apple will probably go there first, but eventually so will every one else. I don't see it happening soon. I can see Mac desktops, all desktops, occupying increasing specialized niches for certain industries/applications. They already are. All my friends/family use laptops and iPads - they don't use "pro" applications. I only see desktops at work, because they're cheap, and in our labs, because they're for specific applications - FCP, CS, design, and other A/V, internet, and creative production. ......................................... |
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Yeah it depends on which professionals we're talking about. The only real, tangible benefits a Mac Pro has over an iMac is more physical cores to do the work, and the PCI slots for specialized cards, graphics or otherwise. If you're not doing anything that is using all 8 cores on a Mac Pro, then you're likely not doing anything that requires PCI slots or specialized cards either.
I dunno. Apple could keep the Mac Pro going, they could build a new sort of half tower headless that has a couple PCI slots, a couple HDD slots, good RAM capacity and a much lower price point, or they could just dump the tower entirely. It's hard to predict, especially without Jobs. If he were still there I'd guess he was just going to axe the line. |
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Also a higher RAM ceiling and not having to eat up Thunderbolt bandwidth to add fast storage (RAIDs and SSD would more than saturate FW800, so I'm not counting that).
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As you say, hard to predict. |
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