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msriotdoll
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2006-01-15, 00:26

hey everyone!
i got a call from my local apple store that they had them in stock.
i came in and really wanted to play with it before i bought it and they went ahead and opened one of their display models a day early so i could check it out (i'm sure they really wanted to see it too)
so after much thinking i took a chance and exchanged my g5 for new imac intel duo 2.0 ghz tonite..
first thoughts:
everything is pretty much like my old imac g5
native apps are way fast!
the startup time is fast and it has the same chime as before.
i've had a problem intalling some 3rd party apps mostly freeware and my driver for my mouse.
its still quiet!
if you want to know anything or run something let me know!
i'll report in a bit about mac office and CS2 i have to install them first
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ghoti
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2006-01-15, 00:32

Excellent, congratulations! I have some money to buy a computer for my office, and I have decided that it's time to go Mac - and an iMac would be ideal. I'd be interested how well Office works, how much noise it makes in everyday usage, how programs like FireFox and Thunderbird work (which programs did you have trouble with?), .... and I'm sure I'll think of some more questions soon
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Quagmire
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2006-01-15, 00:35

Can we still open the iMac from the back? That is the one thing I am confused about. If you can open it from the rear, take pics! And congrats, even though I will hold on to my iMac G5. The best iMac ever.

giggity
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msriotdoll
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2006-01-15, 00:40

i haven't tried opening it from the back.
but i think its just like the latest imac g5 model.
can't be opened at all.
microsoft office works really good!

the only annoying things is not being able to run some 3rd party apps i love:
limerwire so far doesn't work
menu meters
transparent dock
clamav
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2006-01-15, 01:01

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limerwire so far doesn't work
Perhaps limewire is still targetting a Java version < 1.4.2? Try one of the alternative gnutella clients, like Acquisition. It's by-and-large a nicer client anyway.

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menu meters
Raging Menace already have beta support for intel mac. You'll need to drop them an email to get on the beta list, I believe.

-S
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Paranoid666au
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2006-01-15, 01:02

OK the 64 million dollar question. Do you have a copy of Windows XP?
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msriotdoll
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2006-01-15, 01:06

unfortantely i don't!
and right now i wish i did!
to solve the all mighty question!!!!!!
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Paranoid666au
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2006-01-15, 01:12

Bah! What is it with Mac user not owning a copy of Windows XP!
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msriotdoll
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2006-01-15, 01:21

a mac user who doesn't enjoy windows tormenting!
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Moogs
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2006-01-15, 01:22

Has it asploded yet?
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msriotdoll
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2006-01-15, 01:32

no it hasn't!
but its annoying not having some apps i like to use. i figure they'll be out soon!

any more questions?
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Paranoid666au
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2006-01-15, 02:06

Does it make coffee?

OK um a serious one, what's the fan noise like? Try putting on Seti@home or folding@home on, that should run the CPU at full tilt!

What happens when you open heaps of apps, like say if you opened all the ilife apps at once?
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msriotdoll
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2006-01-15, 02:22

i tried opening all the ilife apps and it did good considering its on 512 ram.
then i went ahead and opened everything on my dock, address book, calander, word,photobooth,ichat, mail, safari and again it handled it well.
i know it can open them a hell lot faster with a gig of ram.
i saw it tonite @ the apple store on their demo one.
that thing was quick!
i plan to buy 2 gigs for it this week..
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2006-01-15, 02:32

The Orlando store has the Intel iMacs in stock? grrr...
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msriotdoll
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2006-01-15, 02:53

heck yes~!
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mwe
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2006-01-15, 03:11

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Can we still open the iMac from the back? That is the one thing I am confused about. If you can open it from the rear, take pics! And congrats, even though I will hold on to my iMac G5. The best iMac ever.
http://mactree.sannet.ne.jp/%7ekodaw...c_intel01.html
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The Grim
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2006-01-15, 03:34

Happy for you. I am waiting for the next Duo Intel chip with 64 bit or may be something that come out for April 1. I got an iMac rev B, and I do not feel right if I spend money for 2 iMac in less than a year. Otherwise I have to give this iMac to my dad or grandma, but I still feel very attach to it. Still waiting for new MacBook (iBook) and new Mac mini also.
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Eugene
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2006-01-15, 03:39

On a sidenote, find the close-up of the CPU in that gallery. Is it me or is that a ZIF socket the CPU is sitting on?
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Paranoid666au
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2006-01-15, 04:23

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Originally Posted by msriotdoll
i tried opening all the ilife apps and it did good considering its on 512 ram.
then i went ahead and opened everything on my dock, address book, calander, word,photobooth,ichat, mail, safari and again it handled it well.
i know it can open them a hell lot faster with a gig of ram.
i saw it tonite @ the apple store on their demo one.
that thing was quick!
i plan to buy 2 gigs for it this week..
Awsume! Sounds about 1000X faster than my 1GHz PowBook G4!

I think swimming through wet cememt would be acheivable compared to opening all the iLife Apps on my 1GHz (768MB RAM) PowerBook! iPhoto with over 2000 photos take mintue or so to load up just on it's own!

Can't wait till I get my iMac!
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2006-01-15, 09:36

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OK the 64 million dollar question. Do you have a copy of Windows XP?
Why? Want to know if XP will run on a mac?

Nope.
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2006-01-15, 10:05

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Why? Want to know if XP will run on a mac?

Nope.
Media Center Edition has been found to have EFI support, though.

and congrats, enjoy the iMac! I'm still loving my Rev B G5 iMac, even if it's not the fastest thing out right now.
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2006-01-15, 10:15

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On a sidenote, find the close-up of the CPU in that gallery. Is it me or is that a ZIF socket the CPU is sitting on?
Yeah, some sites have been pointing out that the processor is socket and not soldered. Leading the speculation of an upgradeable CPU...assuming you can get inside easily enough and that Apple hasn't prevented that somehow in software.
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2006-01-15, 10:16

And, assuming that the logic board will even support a faster CPU.
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Paranoid666au
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2006-01-15, 10:26

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Why? Want to know if XP will run on a mac?

Nope.
That article is saying it won't work because of EFI. But EFI is supose to be compatible with BIOS OSes. So wouldn't the question be whether or not Apple's EFI implementation has thas compatibility? They mention nothing of this.
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2006-01-15, 10:45

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Leading the speculation of an upgradeable CPU...assuming you can get inside easily enough and that Apple hasn't prevented that somehow in software.
But that's pointless. When did you last hear about somebody upgrading their PC (which practically all have "upgradeable CPUs") by swapping the processor? Whenever there's a significant leap in speed, it also means that there's a new socket or it needs a different chipset. And if not, it's usually not worth the trouble.
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McSandwich
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2006-01-15, 11:24

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Why? Want to know if XP will run on a mac?

Nope.
Or maybe it will....
See http://www.apcmag.com/apc/v3.nsf/0/6...2570F50012430B
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halo1982
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2006-01-15, 11:34

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But that's pointless. When did you last hear about somebody upgrading their PC (which practically all have "upgradeable CPUs") by swapping the processor? Whenever there's a significant leap in speed, it also means that there's a new socket or it needs a different chipset. And if not, it's usually not worth the trouble.
Thats always what I do at first...upgrade the CPU...going from an XP 1700+ to an XP 3200+ was quite a speed leap.

On a side note: Intel CPUs are almost never soldered onto the board anymore, even on laptops. They use a low profile ZIF socket with a screw to lock the CPU in (as opposed to a lever like on desktop CPUs)
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msriotdoll
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2006-01-15, 13:23

i'm thinking of returning this imac today..
they have my old one..that hasn't been refreshed yet.
its kinda annoying not being able to run certain apps.
even tho this imac seems a little snappier..
i'm really lost on what to do..
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mercmerc
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2006-01-15, 13:51

msriotdoll,
Thanks for this thread. In particular, your last post has gone a long way towards helping me make a decision (was was wavering between iMac G5 iSight, or Intel iMac).

After reading scattered reports from people with their new Intel iMacs, I'm not hearing dramatic gains in speed, and in some cases I hear slower performance, even on Intel native apps. I'm sure apps will be faster across the board a year from now, but I need a computer for 'this year', and I'm not a software developer, I'm an end-user that needs a machine I CAN USE Now. So I think, like you, I'll take the hit of not having the 'very latest update' in favor of having a robust machine that works very well and fast on $1000s of dollars of software I already have.

I support your decision to go get back your iMac G5. In fact, this may be what Apple was scared of, and why they're made the seemingly odd (but now logical) choice of keeping iMac G5's on their website for sale at the same price.

I'm now convinced that the timing of this update was for Shareholders/Wall Street, rather than the all important end-users (you and me). Apple wasn't really ready to make this switch when they did, and they are asking us to not only eat the bugs of rushed systems, but also "pay" to upgrade a $1200 software suite you may have bought a couple of weeks before the announcement (e.g. Universal Binary versions of Apple software). I don't care if it's "only" $49; it's still wrong to charge on the most recent version simply because of the processor switch. Older version, I can swallow that, but not the latest versions of Apple software, that's wrong.

Also, the original prediction Jobs made (Intel switch in mid-2006) was probably more accurate. So that means stability and usable apps are most likely a year away. A lot can happen in a year, and I can't afford to wait a year for a stable/fast/widely app. supported a computer. I'm going with the iMac G5 iSight.

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2006-01-15, 13:56

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i'm thinking of returning this imac today..
they have my old one..that hasn't been refreshed yet.
its kinda annoying not being able to run certain apps.
even tho this imac seems a little snappier..
i'm really lost on what to do..
I prefer a little more rhyming, but... pretty good.
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