[Moogs]

Originally Posted by Frank777 Some genius here in Toronto got himself arrested on Sunday for threatening to "go home and get his gun" because of food prices at the Cineplex.

Send him to the Northern Territories with a backpack, his gun and a slab of beef jerky and say "If you make it out, you can live and keep your gun. Good luck."

People love reality shows, I say make criminal punishments into reality shows. Enough of this taxpayer-fueld prison industry BS. Save the citizens some money, make their television better and give the big gun talker a chance to use it.

I think I saw on TV that "solutionism is the new optimism". Me wanting to be a more optimistic person, I like to have creative solutions for people.

Just give me the reigns folks. I'll hire about a half dozen trusted advisors to keep me in line (Chinney will be one of them so you know I'm not choosing crackpots), then I'll clean this freakin continent up in 12 months flat. I just need absolute authority, that's all.

First on my non-gun-hit-list will be assholes in Congress and the LB1 virus (LoBbyist virus).

[Dave]

Originally Posted by pscates2.0 Reading the story, it says he walked in with a satchel. Who does that?

I do, every time I realize I forgot to leave my backpack at home and I don't want to tempt thieves by leaving it in the back seat.

[pscates2.0]

I picture "satchel" as a larger, duffle-bag (weapon-friendly) type of thing. I know it's just words and perception, but something about it just seems "tactical" or military-ish to me, vs. a backpack or messenger bag/man purse. Silly, I know. Just semantics and all.

Not looking to besmirch any satchel toters here.

[pscates2.0]

Originally Posted by Frank777 Some genius here in Toronto got himself arrested on Sunday for threatening to "go home and get his gun" because of food prices at the Cineplex.

For people like this I have zero tolerance and "understanding" to spare. Any halfway aware human with any sense at all would know that's a supremely moronic thing to say, period. But especially following these recent events.

I swear, I think this country is pegging the Idiot-O-Meter with alarming frequency/severity. Some people are simply too stupid to be let out in public, unsupervised. This guy, the Home Depot Knight and a few others - just in the past 2-3 days - are proving this.

Is this going to be the new "thing" now? People acting like complete, unhinged asshats at the multiplex? Too stupid to grasp the implications until they're making phone calls from a holding cell?

Hey, as much as anyone I hate that a box of Junior Mints now goes for $24.75, but hell's bells...I'm not gonna make idiotic, uncalled-for threats and wind up in county lockup over it.

[alcimedes]

For those interested, the GOA is supposed to be like the NRA without so much stupid.

http://gunowners.org/

For those who think gun control is the correct solution to this problem, that's going to be the worst troll site you've ever read. I'd advise skipping it.

[Yontsey]

Originally Posted by Brave Ulysses scary.... http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1130755

This place is about 15 minutes from me. I was actually at this same theater 3 weeks earlier to the day to see TDKR. Pretty crazy.

[alcimedes]

Removed the most off topic posts to keep the thread on track. Feel free to fire up the discourse in another thread if it's civil.

[Moogs]

This looks like a bad idea. Wayne LaPierre and his idiot friends are fear mongering on the TV already so I can't even listen to that, looking for other sources on this law.

http://gunowners.org/a07312012.htm

Not sure if that "Supremacy Clause" bit is true but if so, a big middle finger to the UN overturning any aspect of our constitution. The UN is a giant cluster-fuck.

This article is fairly detailed and doesn't seem to Fox-like in its approach.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/un-f...lobal-gun-grab

[PB PM]

Sounds good to me, considering that it has been over 100 years since any possibly successful attempt has been made, by arms, to overthrow the US federal government, what difference does it make? Most people don't have guns to defend themselves from the government anyway (as if owning a single hand gun or rifle could really do that in this day and age).

[Moogs]

Hey, if anyone is going to overthrow our govt / change our constitution by force, it's gonna be We The People, damnit!

The UN can suck it and so can everyone else. We should solve our own problems (we've got plenty of them) before we start worrying about international treaties that attempt to solve our problems for us. I'm all for nuclear arms reduction, better control over sale of all kinds of weapons across borders, but as usual the lawmakers aren't in touch with the real world. Thus writing laws intended to change behavior that don't have much chance of succeeding / enforcement.

[PB PM]

That's a typical American response. Seriously. As long as the UN is condemning things other nations do you're all for it, but if the UN points a finger at the good old US of A screw them. What a double standard.

[Moogs]

Not really. I don't have faith that the UN can handle anything efficiently, and don't really care one way or the other what they proclaim their agenda to be. This is just one those problems that we need to solve for ourself first, THEN get involved with the cross-border stuff (exception being Mexico which we need to also solve immediately and not wait for the UN). Letting any extra-governmental body anywhere near our Constitution, is a mistake.

From international gun laws, to "handling" the situation in Syria (see also: going through the motions and accomplishing nothing), to dealing with Iran (and Israel), they create as much confusion as they eliminate. Pretty much anything that requires major conflict resolution, the UN has shown itself to be incapable of handling it in modern times.

Maybe I'm missing something. Has the UN been responsible for any major accomplishments in the way of conflict resolution / avoiding wars / helping people in poor countries to avoid suffering and death lately? (Note: driving white APC's around a country and posting guys in blue helmets at the borders while people all around continue to suffer ≠ helping. )

[PB PM]

I don't have any great love for the UN either, so don't get me wrong. I hope the Canadian Government would have enough balls to say srew'm too if they tried to change our constitution.

My point was more along the lines that nations need to improve gun regulation, if it takes outside help to do so, so be it.

[Moogs]

I understand but I think the idea that outside help will solve problems inside help hasn't been able to solve, in western democracies like US and Canada, is a little far-fetched. If anything I believe a more likely scenario is, we find a better system that works for all of N. America, and then share the process and results with the UN and they can re-purpose the system we come up with for other countries who want it.

Also I think the solution you need for N. America is not the same one you need for South and Central America probably, and that solution is not the same one you need for Africa.