[rand0m3r]

hi. i'm looking for a text editor on mac os x that has syntax highlighting for languages like C, C++, java, PHP, postgresSQL, LaTeX.

i heard textmate and bbedit are good editors, but it surprised me to find that not only did they cost money, but they were pricey. i would never pay that much for a text editor.

i'm not after spectacular features, just an equivalent to kate on linux. or is there kate for OS X too? thanks.

[Ryan]

SubEthaEdit perhaps?

[Ebby]

I use SubEthaEdit. But I haven't heard anything from them in ages. I should check if they are still around.

[scratt]

SEE is the way to go...

Also the Xcode editor is pretty good and is completely free from Apple.. It does not cover all of the languages you mention.. But most of the traditional programming ones.

[rollercoaster375]

$50 is not that much. It's worth every penny.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Ryan SubEthaEdit perhaps?

Originally Posted by Ebby I use SubEthaEdit.

Originally Posted by scratt SEE is the way to go...

Not free, not free, not free.

That simple qualifier is in the very subject line of the thread, folks.

[rollercoaster375]

Originally Posted by Brad Not free, not free, not free. That simple qualifier is in the very subject line of the thread, folks.

http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaedit/old.html

[PKIDelirium]

http://tacosw.com/main.php

[Luca]

SubEthaEdit 2.2 is a good one. I also know of one called TextWrangler. Not sure if it's any good, but I know it's free and it's made by the same company that does BBEdit.

[AsLan^]

I use textwrangler, xcode, and jedit.

[Ebby]

Used to be free. At least my version is.
Thanks for the update warning...

[chucker]

Originally Posted by rand0m3r hi. i'm looking for a text editor on mac os x that has syntax highlighting for languages like C, C++, java, PHP, postgresSQL, LaTeX. i heard textmate and bbedit are good editors, but it surprised me to find that not only did they cost money, but they were pricey. i would never pay that much for a text editor.

No offense, but you're going to develop software in multiple languages, yet can't afford the $35 for SubEthaEdit or the $49 for TextMate?

As a developer, you do know how much effort it takes to create a solid app.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by chucker No offense, but you're going to develop software in multiple languages, yet can't afford the $35 for SubEthaEdit or the $49 for TextMate? As a developer, you do know how much effort it takes to create a solid app.

From the looks of the first post, this person may be coming from a Linux background, where virtually everything is free.

That said, I agree with chucker. Developers of quality software deserve some remuneration.

[Kickaha]

Not only that, but you owe it yourself to get solid and quality tools, and frankly, TextMate stomps anything I've used on the free side of the fence. Worth every cent.

If you're serious about development, get proper tools.

[Jerman]

I personally use TextWrangler, and it meets all of my needs. But all I do is php/css. Very happy with it.

[rand0m3r]

i'm a uni student. i don't think i need all the bells & whistles that textmate offers. and i don't like the idea of paying for a license to use a text editor.

[Luca]

TextMate is shareware, you know. You can download and try it for a month to decide if it's worth the money.

[rand0m3r]

yeah i know, but 39 pounds is just outrageous for a text editor... i mean, the license to use a text editor.

[Fahrenheit]

Taco!

[Luca]

FYI, one of the most popular text editors (before TextMate stole all its customers for being cheaper and better) was BBEdit, which costs over $100. Many people still swear by it, but its heyday was in the 90s.

[scratt]

If you keep your ear to the ground, virtually all of the text editors out there offer free versions, or 'lite' versions, at various times.. Personally I would rather have the tools I want now, and for them to be fully functional.. So I always buy commercial software when my dev work depends on it..

I use betas, 'lite' versions and free trials when I am curious..

I would gladly pay for SEE, but have always ended up with free versions... The serial I was given legitimately for the old SEE free giveaway works just fine with the newer versions too...

[chucker]

Originally Posted by rand0m3r i'm a uni student. i don't think i need all the bells & whistles that textmate offers. and i don't like the idea of paying for a license to use a text editor.

Whatever, use vim or emacs or some such.

I don't get your argument at all, let alone how the fact that you're a student factors in (heck, e-mail Allan and ask for an education discount…). You claim knowledge in C, C++, java, PHP, postgresSQL, LaTeX. Surely you could whip together some shareware for, say, $10. Now all you need is five sales and you already have all the money from the TextMate purchase back, plus another dollar.

This is a productivity software. It costs you money at first, but then it makes you money.

[Barto]

Since SubEthaEdit became pay-ware, I switched to Text Wrangler (on the Mac, I use Kate on Linux). Also, I totally understand not wanting to buy a text editor. It's a bloody text editor, not Photoshop.

[scratt]

My attitude towards those that don't want to pay for a good text editor, because "it's a bloody text editor", is the same as chuckers..

Use vi..

Or go and write your own, make it better, and make it open source..

Or stop whining..

[chucker]

Originally Posted by Barto Since SubEthaEdit became pay-ware, I switched to Text Wrangler (on the Mac, I use Kate on Linux). Also, I totally understand not wanting to buy a text editor. It's a bloody text editor, not Photoshop.

"It's a bloody image editor, not TextMate."

Oh, I hear you say: it's much more than that. So is TextMate. And, after all, Photoshop costs about ten times the price as TextMate does.

If someone decides a price tag is not worth it, that's their call to make. But to argue that, in general, paying money for a text editor is unwarranted, is an attitude I completely fail to understand.

[Koodari]

This thread is ridiculous.

A guy from Linux background comes in asking for a good free text editor. Whatever happened to Vim and Emacs?
I use vim and gvim, but if I want a OS X GUI integrated editor someday, I'll buy TextMate.

If you do just one hour of programming and other text editing a day, that's over 300 hours a year. Even if you had to pay the editor's price yearly to use it, the cost would still be just 10c/hour. What's one hour of programming work worth? $10? Even if the editor only makes you a tiny 1% more efficient, it has paid its price back in one year. That's ignoring the subjective aspect, how much nicer it is to work with good tools, and how that reflects on your overall wellbeing. And how you can use the same license for ten years if you want to.

Ridiculous.

[PKIDelirium]

Originally Posted by Farenheit Taco!

Taco rocks.

I wish EditPlus was available on Mac. It's not free, but it's totally awesome.

[chucker]

Originally Posted by Koodari This thread is ridiculous. A guy from Linux background comes in asking for a good free text editor. Whatever happened to Vim and Emacs? I use vim and gvim, but if I want a OS X GUI integrated editor someday, I'll buy TextMate. If you do just one hour of programming and other text editing a day, that's over 300 hours a year. Even if you had to pay the editor's price yearly to use it, the cost would still be just 10c/hour. What's one hour of programming work worth? $10? Even if the editor only makes you a tiny 1% more efficient, it has paid its price back in one year. That's ignoring the subjective aspect, how much nicer it is to work with good tools, and how that reflects on your overall wellbeing. And how you can use the same license for ten years if you want to. Ridiculous.

I believe this is a good place to note that TextMate 2.0 will be a free upgrade (assuming you have Leopard).

Good lord, did I just break off an OS-upgrades-too-expensive debate?

[Kickaha]

rand0m3r, if you're that dead set against spending any money on a code development environment, then just go use vim.

If you're really desperate for a GUI, use Xemacs.

Boom, done, basic text editing at your finger tips for free.

What was the problem again?

Look, you may think we're being harsh on you, but this is a silly thread, Koodari is right. You can spend a *small* amount of money on a top-notch tool, or you can spend nothing on mediocre crap. That's the choice you have in front of you. If you're serious about coding, serious about making a career out of it, then is 39 pounds outrageous for an investment in your future? If so, you need to find another career, and fast, because this is just a hobby for you, and always will be.

[scratt]

As I said earlier in the thread also, but may have got missed....

Xcode has a good editor, and is free...