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drewprops
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2007-01-11, 19:01

Where else do you expect to see MultiTouch turn up in Apple's product lineup besides the iPod, which seems as short a putt as ever there was. Would you expect to see it on notebooks? Would you want fingerprints all over your screen or will we see iGloves anytime soon?

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2007-01-11, 19:04

We already have two-finger scrolling, second-click and zooming. It's not much of a stretch for them to implement some of the other iPhone gestures.
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2007-01-11, 19:16

iGloves, nope. God, thats nearly as bad as the idiot who posted about an iPod HD being used as a heater...

Reason: Annoying to carry, another thing to lose, makes it less simple, fugly, and there's no need. Instead I think that they'll come up with some amazing screen overlay material, which means that no fingerprints are left 0.o

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2007-01-11, 19:32

Naw, you need some way of being able to do it touchless.
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2007-01-11, 19:41

iPhone hand-warmer? That would be awesome...You just bend the embedded metal tab in the middle and it mimmicks the exothermic reaction by running at 100% CPU.

Back on topic though...This was posted in another thread:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5JcSu7h-I40

Also this older example from a Mitsubishi lab:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5O1bTNbbWk4
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2007-01-11, 19:53

Why do all those people think that its fake? That 'clicking' is the audio from it! Not the sound of a mechanical mouse

Is there a way to to sense where you fingers are - above a surface for short ranges?

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2007-01-11, 19:58

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Is there a way to to sense where you fingers are - above a surface for short ranges?
Induction. Wacom's tablets do that.
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2007-01-11, 20:04

But induction relies on a magnet in the pen being ..magnetised..?

And, I know for a fact that fingers dont have magnetic fields :P

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2007-01-11, 20:08

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But induction relies on a magnet in the pen being ..magnetised..?

And, I know for a fact that fingers dont have magnetic fields :P

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2007-01-11, 20:10

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But induction relies on a magnet in the pen being ..magnetised..?

And, I know for a fact that fingers dont have magnetic fields :P
That's moot. We'll all be walking around with metal enhancements in our fingers by then anyway.
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2007-01-11, 23:00

nintendo already has the powerglove
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drewprops
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2007-01-11, 23:15

What about on the screens of the next gen of notebooks?
Would you use it?
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2007-01-11, 23:17

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What about on the screens of the next gen of notebooks?
Would you use it?
Interesting idea. I would probably use it on occasion. It wouldn't be an all-the-time thing, but I would definitely use it.
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2007-01-12, 00:12

maybe they could implement wiimote-esque technology in the future... so it's controlled not just by finger gestures, but also by hand/wrist gestures.

that would probably be more complicated than anything... but it would be cool.
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2007-01-12, 03:03

Like minority report!

You would look a little odd though..

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p.s. Who gave me that bad rep and insulted me? . Its one thing doing it, but hiding is even worse..

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2007-01-12, 03:34

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Interesting idea. I would probably use it on occasion. It wouldn't be an all-the-time thing, but I would definitely use it.
No way! If I just brush a spot of dirt off my screen I get an annoying grease mark there.. I would not want a touch sensitive laptop, or desktop display, unless it wiped clean instantly somehow.. Yeuch!

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2007-01-12, 09:19

Once in a while, my cat called me "MultiTouch".
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2007-01-12, 15:39

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No way! If I just brush a spot of dirt off my screen I get an annoying grease mark there.. I would not want a touch sensitive laptop, or desktop display, unless it wiped clean instantly somehow.. Yeuch!
But your good old fashioned buttons have just as much if not more crud on them because they seldom get cleaned. Double yuck! Visibility and cleanability of junk on the screen is all about the glare and surface texture, while I don't know what Apple uses for the iPhone, if it is smoother like the new optional MBPro screens then they should clean up nicely with little effort at all, and wont show much from straight on.
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2007-01-12, 16:05

Think of the Boobies pics you could um... enlarge and rotate. Yeah.

That will get you multitouching.
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2007-01-12, 20:32

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But your good old fashioned buttons have just as much if not more crud on them because they seldom get cleaned. Double yuck! Visibility and cleanability of junk on the screen is all about the glare and surface texture, while I don't know what Apple uses for the iPhone, if it is smoother like the new optional MBPro screens then they should clean up nicely with little effort at all, and wont show much from straight on.
I am not worried about multi-touching the iPhone. That you can wipe off on your shirt or trousers or on a cloth, as has been mentioned before.. I was referring to touching the screen on a laptop. That is not something I want to be pawing at all day long....

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2007-01-15, 04:44

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Think of the Boobies pics you could um... enlarge and rotate. Yeah.

That will get you multitouching.
LOL it could be a game... rub her the right way and hear her moan...

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2007-01-15, 05:06

This thing doesn't have vibrate at the moment does it?

Otherwise you could actually make her quiver with pleasure too..
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2007-01-15, 14:30

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I am not worried about multi-touching the iPhone. That you can wipe off on your shirt or trousers or on a cloth, as has been mentioned before.. I was referring to touching the screen on a laptop. That is not something I want to be pawing at all day long....
That makes sense and is all about the texture of the screen surface itself. Most laptop screens have the mildly textured low-glare surface which shows oily fingerprints like neon. The newer glossy LCD screens aren't as great for glare, but they don't show fingerprints much when looking straight on and the color saturation is a bit better. Looks like the iPhone has the glossy type of screen. I also think the screen will be constructed far sturdier with less gooey give. The glass in a normal LCD is incredibly thin, but it is not made to be touched, and the mushy layer on top is partly there to protect/insulate the glass layer. Dedicated touch screens are far more firm.
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