Formerly Roboman, still
awesome Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Portland, OR
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Are you talking about Blu-ray on the iMac or Mac Pro?
I think the next iMac might ditch the optical altogether, but I agree that only including DVD drives on $1200+ machines is ridiculous. Basically, if a Mac has an optical drive, it should be Blu-ray -- it's just that the only Mac with an optical drive is likely to be the Mac Pro. |
Hates the Infotainment
Join Date: May 2004
Location: NSA Archives
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For web people all they'll ever need is sRGB because that's what the web is based on, basically. For people who do press work, having a monitor that can display the RGB equivalent colors of all the press colors they need, is important. For video types who do HD broadcast stuff a screen that encompasses the rec.709 standard and then some, is important. For pure photography (i.e. no third party printing - you're doing it all yourself on a high end Epson 4800 or something similar) having a display that can encompass all or most of the Adobe RGB space can be very important. And the printer's gamut is very important too. If you're really gung-ho there's ProPhoto RGB but this space is so large that there are many colors within it that the human eye supposedly can't distinguish and so that's more of a raw editing situation where you want to maximize the possibility that every color in your scene is rendered into the file that's exported to Photoshop... but you'll never see a "ProPhoto" monitor because the tech is not there yet and we as humans couldn't see every color the monitor displayed to begin with. So with respect to the iMac screens, they're typical 8-bit screens (8-bit LUT in other words, which can result in tonal or color banding if you feed it an image that has a wider gamut than it has). To jump into Mac Pro territory, Apple would need to release one with a 10-bit non-refelective screen IMO, in order to appease people who want to do high end photography or video work. At least with respect to the screen. RAM and GPU horsepower and the rest is another thing all together. As for multiple screens, I wouldn't do that with an iMac. I'd simply get the largest, widest-gamut screen they offered. I might however, drive two smaller monitors from my MBP, if it had two DisplayPort out plugs. Otherwise I'd just do one big screen if there was only one DisplayPort. ...into the light of a dark black night. |
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Formerly Roboman, still
awesome Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Portland, OR
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Apple can "afford" (monetarily speaking) to make many more products than they currently do. But one of the reasons that they've been so successful — the reason they can afford to make so many more products! — is because they're laser-focused on only the products they can give their full attention to. They don't halfass things. They'd rather not make a workstation at all than a halfassed one. That's why they stopped making the Xserve, as chucker noted. There are a few exceptions. The Apple TV is probably Apple's most obvious "hobby" product. I wouldn't quite call if halfassed, but it's clearly not a major focus of Apple's iOS strategy in the same way the iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch are. It's a stopgap, in sort of the same way the ROKR was (only less bad). Pretty much everybody "knows" that Apple is going to make a more significant play in the television market in the future. They haven't done it yet not because they don't have the money to, but because they've been busy with the first iPhones and iPads. But they need something to complete the iTunes/iCloud picture in the meantime, so they made their hobby product. (That's why I qualified "afford" with "monetarily speaking" at the start of this post. Apple could afford to make dozens of new products, momentarily speaking, but money isn't exactly Apple's problem right now. They have zillions of dollars but only one executive board. Can Apple's leadership afford to give dozens of new products their fullest attention? There's different types of "afford.") Apple might decide that the Mac Pro is worthy of being another exception. They might view the Mac Pro as something of a support prosuct for the products they care more about — iOS devices (and consumer Macs) are great because of their awesome apps, and so Apple wants to give developers the best tools to make their awesome apps. It certainly helps that Apple can make beefy margins on a workstation that takes far less engineering effort than a tightly-packed mobile device loaded with custom silicon. But at the same time, they sell far fewer workstations. and i guess i've known it all along / the truth is, you have to be soft to be strong |
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careful with axes
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Hillsborough, CA
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If it's all about branding and the media market, then why not keep the product that sits at the head of video production/post-production. I personally don't care if the Mac Pro lives or dies as long as the only alternative is an iMac. The iMac is neither green nor reliable according to my own experience. It's expandable to a point via external add-ons, but I personally would prefer and have opted for a tower and separate display.
I really doubt picking off the shelf parts and maintaining one extra assembly line for nice professional segment is going to break Apple. |
Hates the Infotainment
Join Date: May 2004
Location: NSA Archives
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Hmm. No idea what kind of gamut these would-be Retina-for-Mac displays have, but if Apple can find a way to boost the expandability somehow and the screens DO have good gamut, could well spell the end.
Whatever happens I think we'll have our Mac Pro answer within a month. http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/15/...neration-imac/ ...into the light of a dark black night. |
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While wasting some time online I noticed that a lot of Mac forums are all talking about the demise of the Mac Pro, or the speculation around it. To be honest I think that Apple will update it this year but these days you nvever know. I think if Apple did ever discontinue the Mac Pro they would announce that they were going of end of line it and then give users and businesses time to buy what they need.
But it got me thinking, as all these forum users said they would jump to windows etc, what would i do. I think I would go crazy a buy a maxed out Mac Pro just before they got rid of it. I mean mine is only 3.5 years old but the Mac Cult-ist in me would like to get a 12 Core daddy of a machine and that would probably be my last big Apple purchase. As I think I would move to Mac Mini's when the 12 Core Mac Pro gave up ( or what ever computers look like then). Anyway just passing some time with my crazy rumblings..... |
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Join Date: May 2004
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Yeah, it seems generally that Apple's pattern with the pro desktops is that at launch they're very expensive, very powerful, and a reasonably good deal if you happen to be in the market for that sort of machine. They launch the product and that's that. It doesn't get updated for a long while (in computer terms) or get price adjustments, or promos, because that just isn't its target market.
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Hates the Infotainment
Join Date: May 2004
Location: NSA Archives
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So much for more transparency in Apple's desktop strategery.
According to Cook, they'll be "Doubling Down" on Secrecy... that's like...... George Lucas doubling down on contrived character types and cheesy dialog. There is no room to double-down. Humorously, MacRumors isn't sure it will work as evidenced by new iPhone part leaks from China. As if anyone has any question that there is always a new iPhone around the corner and it will look very similar to the last model and it's little internal buttons and parts will look pretty much like the parts inside every other glass smart phone. Talking here about secrecy surrounding new product designs. You'd think in any case desktop towers would get a pass in this department as Apple is not really competing with anyone in this space. ...into the light of a dark black night. |
Hates the Infotainment
Join Date: May 2004
Location: NSA Archives
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Noticing that stocks of refurbed Mac Pros are very low now. Usually there are 3-5 models available and multiple in stock. Right now there's one model available. Not sure what that would signify.
Either people are buying them up like crazy assuming there will be no more (and no one is selling)... or... ? ...into the light of a dark black night. |
Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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Jim Dalrymple is that source and he's got a pretty awesome track record for knowing inside stuff (even more than Gruber, IMO). So if he says the Mac Pro is going to be updated and stick around a while longer, I tend to believe it. Probably about as close as you'll get to an official statement from Apple.
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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The buyers guide at MacRumors shows all Macs, except for the MacBook Air, with a red dot beside it. That means "don't buy, updates soon". As we know, the Mac Pro is long overdue, and it's been over a year now for the iMac.
And the MacBook Air, which is the only Mac with a yellow dot beside it (meaning "buy only if needed...approaching the end of a cycle"), was updated last July which is almost a year. It's entirely possible the entire damn lineup gets updated in the 4-18 days. I actually think we'll see something next week, pre-WWDC (something not involving a redesign, perhaps the Air or Mac mini). |
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