[Powerdoc]

Originally Posted by phd OK Lets see some pics

I second that

[jasonhh]

Not sure there's much to see. Externally it looks more or less like the previous gen G5s except the addition of a couple of ports and once opened up, you can't really see much 'cause of the cooling system.

But if there's anything specific you'd like to see post a reply and i'll see what i can do.

[phd]

"But if there's anything specific you'd like to see post a reply and i'll see what i can do."

How about the box

Hey just a thought why not contact bafefeats.com
and they can get you to run a few tests for them/us

I know they would jump up and down with joy to do a few tests with you and who knows maybe they could slip you some xtra ram for the tests/trouble

Now hows that for some creative thinking

[jasonhh]

Ok, here's a couple images of the box and inside of the Quad with the side off http://homepage.mac.com/jasonhh/PhotoAlbum2.html

[namachtag]

So what are your thoughts on the Quad? Speed, noise factor, etc... I'm going to order one just waiting to see what the first comments from people are. You are a lucky person! i'm jealous

[jasonhh]

Initial thoughts are very positive. I'm upgrading from a dual 1GHz MDD, that i had mod'ed with the Verax CPU fans kit and Apple's replacement PSU.

It's far quieter even under sustained load than that, with the disk making the most noise. Build quality is high and as for performance, well it's all I was expecting and then some.

[WBG4]

hope mine gets here soon

[phd]

Nice Box!

[Powerdoc]

Hmm great. Is the quad watercooled ?

[jasonhh]

Yeah, 'tis a nice box ;-)

And yes the Quad is Watercooled. There's a nice label inside on the front left warning to unplug the computer and consult the manual if you see any liquid.

[Powerdoc]

Holy shit I loosed my bet on Mac Bidouille (that it was not watercooled).
Thanks for the info.
I hope you will enjoy your new beast.

[namachtag]

jasonhh, i take it that you got a stock config with the 6600... are you impressed with it? I'm guessing you are going to upgrade the card at a later date. I use a 733 at home and a dp 2.0/x800/4.5ram... I know a quad will smoke the 733 just wondering the difference between the 2.0...

[Skyline65]

jasonhh, if you have photoshop can you run this test?

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?t=263394

cheers

[Bryson]

Right, got a date: 6 days from now, so the 16th November.

Quite exciting, given I have two 20" Cinemas, A 400gB hd and 2GB Ram waiting to go in it....

[jasonhh]

I've already ran the Photoshop test and posted to that thread.

Got a time of 22 seconds.

[Skyline65]

Hmmm, cannot wait to get mine next week... it took 1min 40 secs with a dual 1.25ghz with 2gb RAM, butI was running lots of other apps at the time!

[livingmac]

Originally Posted by jasonhh I've already ran the Photoshop test and posted to that thread. Got a time of 22 seconds.

Wow!! :smokey:

Nice!!

Really looking forward to getting my Quad NOW!!!!

I don't remember feeling like this for a computer? Any thing wrong with me?

[namachtag]

i ran that test on 2 machines to see the difference in what I'm using:

G4/733/1.5 ram 5:32
G5 DP 2.0/4.5 ram :50

Think about all the time added up when everything is sped up over 1 year!

[Jay]

Another question about the quad, what version of the OS is it running, 10.4.2 or 10.4.3. Thanks.

[jasonhh]

I'm running 10.4.3

[709]

OMG. I've been informed that I'll have my box within 2 weeks...with the 7800.

I swear, they better not be yanking my crank...

[Musashi0008]

Originally Posted by 709 OMG. I've been informed that I'll have my box within 2 weeks...with the 7800. I swear, they better not be yanking my crank...

When did you place your order? I just put my order in today with the 7800, I can't imagine waiting 6-8 weeks for it!

[jasonhh]

Would've liked to have ordered the 7800 GT with my Quad, but at the time no-one had any idea that it existed apart from the blurb hidden on the store Graphics Support learn more page.

Hopefully, it'll become available to buy separately in a few months. Has anyone heard if this is going to happen?

[Leftofsix]

Hi jasonhh

Man you've had me drooling over your pics all day. My ship date is on or before 25th November (ordered a few hours after the store went live after the announcements) and I honestly can't wait! Serves me right for choosing all the custom options.

I phoned the Apple Store a few days after my order to enquire about the 7800GT and the sales person told me it was available to order seperately but the wait time was upto 10 weeks (that was about 2-3 weeks ago). After Christmas I'll upgrade to the 7800GT. It's kind of weird that the Apple Store isn't currently listing any custom graphic cards (seperately).

PS. I'd love to know what the Xbench score is with the G5 Quad? - hint hint

[livingmac]

Originally Posted by jasonhh I've already ran the Photoshop test and posted to that thread. Got a time of 22 seconds.

Do you think you can do the cinebench test when you have time? It would be very very very very very very nice of you

http://www.cinebench.com/

This way it's easy to compare against pc

[livingmac]

Originally Posted by Leftofsix Hi jasonhh Man you've had me drooling over your pics all day. My ship date is on or before 25th November (ordered a few hours after the store went live after the announcements) and I honestly can't wait! Serves me right for choosing all the custom options. I phoned the Apple Store a few days after my order to enquire about the 7800GT and the sales person told me it was available to order seperately but the wait time was upto 10 weeks (that was about 2-3 weeks ago). After Christmas I'll upgrade to the 7800GT. It's kind of weird that the Apple Store isn't currently listing any custom graphic cards (seperately). PS. I'd love to know what the Xbench score is with the G5 Quad? - hint hint

Here you have the xbench test for the Quad from macrumors.com, posted by Mudbug

Xbench Results:
Results 151.86
System Info
Xbench Version 1.2
System Version 10.4.2 (8E90)
Physical RAM 3072 MB
Model PowerMac11,2
Processor PowerPC G5x4 @ 2.50 GHz
L1 Cache 64K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 1024K @ 2.50 GHz
Bus Frequency 1 GHz
Drive Type WDC WD2500JS-41MVB1
CPU Test 125.82
GCD Loop 125.52 6.62 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 125.96 2.99 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 129.52 4.27 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 122.46 21.32 Mops/sec
Thread Test 246.38
Computation 252.23 5.11 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 240.79 10.36 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 129.76
System 123.99
Allocate 116.39 427.43 Kalloc/sec
Fill 172.55 8389.84 MB/sec
Copy 101.94 2105.60 MB/sec
Stream 136.10
Copy 134.55 2779.01 MB/sec [G5]
Scale 134.42 2777.05 MB/sec [G5]
Add 137.73 2933.98 MB/sec [G5]
Triad 137.79 2947.68 MB/sec [G5]
Quartz Graphics Test 150.30
Line 124.14 8.27 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 141.05 42.11 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 140.17 11.43 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 133.71 3.37 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 284.92 17.82 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 144.50
Spinning Squares 144.50 183.30 frames/sec
User Interface Test 229.01
Elements 229.01 1.05 Krefresh/sec
Disk Test 71.27
Sequential 101.86
Uncached Write 116.11 71.29 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 106.60 60.32 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 76.82 22.48 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 121.06 60.84 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 54.81
Uncached Write 20.79 2.20 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 135.37 43.34 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 97.78 0.69 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 137.66 25.54 MB/sec [256K blocks]

[Leftofsix]

Thanks for the Xbench score livingmac... thought it'd be higher when someone is reporting this at the results site:

RiscX G5 (150.87) PowerPC G5x2 @ 2.50 GHz 2005-08-28 13:38:26.0

Hmm

[jasonhh]

Not that i don't trust Xbench but my overall score when running 10.4.3 was 134.05. I've run the test multiple times and they all come out about the same with the highest up a couple of points and yet are very similar to the figures posted above. I'm baffled.

Here's my scores:

Results 134.05
System Info
Xbench Version 1.2
System Version 10.4.3 (8F46)
Physical RAM 2560 MB
Model PowerMac11,2
Processor PowerPC G5x4 @ 2.50 GHz
L1 Cache 64K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 1024K @ 2.50 GHz
Bus Frequency 1 GHz
Drive Type WDC WD2500JS-41MVB1

CPU Test 126.21
GCD Loop 125.71 6.63 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 126.15 3.00 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 130.47 4.30 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 122.75 21.37 Mops/sec

Thread Test 244.62
Computation 249.78 5.06 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 239.67 10.31 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads

Memory Test 132.02
System 126.79
Allocate 122.81 450.99 Kalloc/sec
Fill 172.33 8379.29 MB/sec
Copy 102.93 2126.07 MB/sec
Stream 137.70
Copy 135.91 2807.26 MB/sec [G5]
Scale 135.58 2801.10 MB/sec [G5]
Add 139.99 2982.09 MB/sec [G5]
Triad 139.43 2982.84 MB/sec [G5]

Quartz Graphics Test 151.24
Line 125.62 8.36 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 138.92 41.48 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 138.62 11.30 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 138.42 3.49 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 288.74 18.06 Kchars/sec

OpenGL Graphics Test 136.65
Spinning Squares 136.65 173.35 frames/sec

User Interface Test 233.91
Elements 233.91 1.07 Krefresh/sec

Disk Test 69.31
Sequential 103.09
Uncached Write 119.64 73.46 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 109.29 61.84 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 75.73 22.16 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 123.61 62.13 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 52.21
Uncached Write 19.28 2.04 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 138.88 44.46 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 97.53 0.69 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 137.08 25.44 MB/sec [256K blocks]

[Leftofsix]

Hi Jasonhh

Hmm your score seems to be in line with the Dual 2.7Ghz scores from the Xbench site, which seems very weird indeed - mind you most of the scores there are wildly different. I can only assume that Xbench is only stressing one of the dual core CPUs and maybe isn't optimised to properly benchmark the Quad. Then again maybe it is. Your thoughts?

[EDIT] Just had a flick through the macrumours.com forum and it seems that Xbench is all a bit random oh well!

[livingmac]

Originally Posted by Leftofsix Thanks for the Xbench score livingmac... thought it'd be higher when someone is reporting this at the results site: RiscX G5 (150.87) PowerPC G5x2 @ 2.50 GHz 2005-08-28 13:38:26.0 Hmm

xbench is kind of an overall score. If you have a 8 disk raid (look at the disk score for the one you mention) you get a very high overall score.

I dont think xbench gives a good estimate of the things the quad is really good at, like rendering and number crunching.

Xbench is a too overall, I mean if you have the same graphicscard and harddrive in a dualcore 2.0 and a quad, the disk and graphics numbers are going to be quite similar.