[Quagmire]

Well it was announced. I am confused. Didn't Brosnan announce he won't play Bond anymore after Die Another Day? Then I heard the producers of James Bond were looking for a younger Bond for Bond 21. I am totally confused. But, it was announced for 2005.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000112/

[pscates2.0]

This is good news. Brosnan is the BEST Bond, even giving Connery a good run for his money (yeah, I said it...deal with it).

(Next to Jack Nicholson, I can't think of another actor who gets such a unwarranted free ride for doing such mundane, repetitive work, year in and year out as Sean Connery...I've gotten to where I can't stand the sight of him. But that's another thread).


When I heard, months ago, that Brosnan was out, I was genuinely bummed.

In that first movie, he had a bit too much of the floppy hair and pencil neck going, but he was great in the other aspects. However, he's beefed up just a tad and doesn't sport such a Brian Ferry hairdo anymore, and REALLY looks the part.

Plus, I love the fact that he's just so damn...MEAN!

He's the best thing that's ever happened to the franchise, IMO. If they get rid of him, I honestly can't imagine a suitable replacement.

That foul-mouthed midget Colin Farrell? Please. May as well cast Hugh Grant and properly run it into the ground...

"B-b-bb-but, I'm...well, you see. Heh, I'm, uh...well, I-I'm Bond. James B-B-Bond...". Stammering numbnut.

I can't think of a known, "name" actor I'd put in there besides Brosnan. Would have to scout out some handsome, talented London unknown and give him his big break, if I were in charge.

[Akumulator]

Pierce Brosnan can suck it...... bring back Roger Moore!!! I don't care if he's 80... he kicks ass!

[Quagmire]

I second pscates. Pierce Brosnan is the best. He knows how to destroy his cars!!!

[Akumulator]

Maybe I'd like Pierce Brosnan better if all the movies he's in didn't suck ass. The best Bond movies were in the 60s and 70s. Now they're just stupid.

[spiff]

The last bond movie was really horrible. I mean, it was a very special kind of horrible that they reserve for a select few movies. Not Brosnan's fault though, he was still cool, though he is getting old.

If they were going to have someone else do it, they would have to find a relatively unknown actor. I can't think of any body who would work well. It's a really hard role to cast properly, he really needs the right looks and demeanor to pull it off.

[Kickaha]

Yes, Moore did indeed suck ass.

Oh, I'm sorry, you said 'kicks' ass??? Never read the original Fleming books, have you? (There's a good reason that the first book, Casino Royale, has never seriously been made into a movie - it never would have gotten past the 60's censors. Or the 70's. In the 80's it would have been pared down considerably, and in the 90's been NC-17. Now? Hard R, but there's one scene in particular that's just brutal as hell.)


Bond was not funny. Bond was not borderline flaming. He was direct, hard, practical, and outright cruel when need be.

Connery still has the title in my mind, with Dalton and Brosnan vying for second. Brosnan has more class, but Dalton still beats him in the down and dirty on command department. Heck, I'll take the Aussie Lazenby over Moore for being closer to the Bond I know and love from the books. Moore was great as The Saint - but that wasn't a good Bond.

Personally, the camp of the Moore movies just ruins them for me. They're like the producer of the old Batman TV series got ahold of the character. :P

[Akumulator]

Originally Posted by Kickaha Never read the books, have you?

Umm... I'm sorry, I've never jumped on the bandwagon of this whole reading craze. What is this.... book you speak of?

Hell no I've never read the James Bond books. I'm a VIP, damn it.

[Kickaha]

Heh. You should get ahold of the original Fleming books, and read them in order. There's actually continuity, character development, and god forbid, a bit of suspense and mystery. The movies in general telegraph the plot *WAY* too much, but the Moore movies were the worst at capturing the characters. :/

The ending of Casino Royale (coming on the heels of the one really brutal scene) explains so damned much about Bond's personality, it's almost heartbreaking. He's a pretty screwed up dude in the books, but still manages to make his psychological weaknesses work for him.

[sCreeD]

Originally Posted by Akumulator Umm... I'm sorry, I've never jumped on the bandwagon of this whole reading craze. What is this.... book you speak of?

<Leslie Nielsen>A monochrome, cellulose information delivery system, but that's not important right now.</Leslie Nielsen>

Screed

[SKMDC]

hate to piss on your parade but pierce isn't doing bond anymore. if your referring to the entry in the link from undertakers first post, well, that's a video game for chrissake.

rumour has it eric bana is the next bond but he claims not to have been asked.

i've said it before the best bond was woody allen.
and pscates if brosnan is the BEST bond then how can he give connery a run for his money?

dalton is the closest to the books, with connery in Dr. No and Thunderball a close second.
but i agree brosnan is the best all around bond if you don't take the books into account.

but my favorite bond movie? Diamonds Are Forever. i was 13 and saw it 3 times in a row.
jill st. john...............grrrrrrrr.

[pscates2.0]

Yeah, that didn't make sense. Let me rephrase: Brosnan is the best Bond and Connery can go to hell. How's that?

Seriously, I just know everyone is programmed to go "ooh, Sean Connery...", but I think his stuff is tired, and Brosnan can give those with that particular opinion a challenge.

Or something like that.

Brosnan, Connery, Dalton, Lazenby, Moore.

The one-timer even beats Roger Moore!

And Eric Bana? That dry piece of toast from "The Hulk"? Ohmigosh...he was horrible in that. I heard he was bad in "Troy". And I've seen him on about three talk shows and he's got the spark and charisma of a rolled-up napkin.



I'd rather see Hugh Jackman than Eric Bana. I think Jackman has the potential to be HUGE. I'm actually kinda shocked he's not bigger than he is, meanwhile that idiot Colin Farrell and others of the surly marble-mouth brigade get all the attention and hype.

Watch the Bond producers get cute and go and hire Alan Cummings...



"An exciting re-thinking of James Bond for the Bravo/Queer Eye era...".



I still think they'd be better off going with a relative unknown - maybe some British independent or BBC drama actor who isn't a superstar with lots of baggage and all - and play it a bit darker and serious. "The Bourne Supremacy" shows that you can have an engaging, action-packed movie that doesn't rely on over-the-top gadgetry, wisecracks or hyper-stunts. I'd like to see a series of new Bond films done in that "Bourne" style (the bleak, washed-out film look, shaky, handheld "you are there" footage, believable dialog and situations, etc.).

Would be a cool direction to take it in, in light of 30-plus years of borderline nonsense.

[SKMDC]

I know what you're saying about Connery, he tends to play Sean Connery more than actually act. He was tremendous in The Untouchables, and as I mentioned earlier plays a particularly snarly Bond in Dr. No and From Russia With Love. (not Thunderball as i stated earlier)
Another Connery favorite is The Man Who Would Be King, with Michael Caine.

Brosnan, Connery, Dalton, Sellers, Lazenby, the woodman, Niven, Moore.

I put the one-timer and all the bond knock-offs (from Casino Royale) ahead of Moore.

Moore's Bond films are unfortunate because they combine his horrid acting with awful scripts and the worst production values of any Bond eras.

Although Austin Powers owes much of its success to the Moore Bond films as well as Matt Helm and The Flint movies.
The Moore's did have good music.

I would choose Clive Owen, or if they wanted to stretch and do a "Hong Kong" Bond Chow Yun-Fat.
If they must go Aussie i'd vote for for Guy Pearce.

edit = I think the Eric Bana stuff in the papers lately was put there by his agent or managers. That's how Brosnan got it.

[Barto]

Guy Pearce as Bond. Right. Instead of a movie about blowing stuff up and chicks, Bond discovers his feminine side and when his feeling are hurt by his manipulative girlfriend, he delivers a bittersweet monologue.

I don't like Bond films, but Bond is anything but a SNAG.

[pscates2.0]

Yeah, Moore's movies - sucky as they were - did have quite the dose of babitude. My favorite was that beautiful woman from "For Your Eyes Only". Her name was Melina in the movie. Carole Bouquet is her name.

Meow.



Her and Famke Janssen from "Goldeneye" are my all-time favorite Bond vixens.

[SKMDC]

Originally Posted by Barto Guy Pearce as Bond. Right. Instead of a movie about blowing stuff up and chicks, Bond discovers his feminine side and when his feeling are hurt by his manipulative girlfriend, he delivers a bittersweet monologue. I don't like Bond films, but Bond is anything but a SNAG.

did you see Memento? or L.A. Confidential?

[pscates2.0]

Yeah, I'm thinking he's got Guy Pearce confused with someone else?

He was great in "L.A. Confidential". You think he's going to be a by-the-book weenie, but, in the end, he comes through. I love that movie. I wish they'd make more like them (good crime mysteries, set in the 40's and 50's, several stories swirling around at once but all connected together, etc.).

Spacey was also great in that movie too.

But I don't think Pearce looks the part. Not attractive enough, and, frankly, at times kinda weird looking (his teeth are too big for his head or something). He's a good actor, but, physically, I don't see him as James Bond.

Then again, I'm the one that called for a more realistic, grounded series of Bond films. Maybe Bond isn't supposed to be such a devastating stud as Brosnan and Connery...

[Barto]

I've seen L.A. Confidential. Guy Pearce can be a good actor, but I cannot see him being a good Bond.

[Quagmire]

The site has been updated and Brosnan is not playing bond.

[Argento]

THree things that upset people the most:
1. Politics
2. Religion
3. Who is the best Bond.
4. How many orginal episodes are there of star trek . . .

[DMBand0026]

Originally Posted by Undertaker The site has been updated and Brosnan is not playing bond.

Where do you see that? As far as I can see nothing has changed and he'll still be Bond.

[Quagmire]

Originally Posted by DMBand0026 Where do you see that? As far as I can see nothing has changed and he'll still be Bond.

Where it says the announced/pre-production section Bond 21 was removed.

[SKMDC]

Originally Posted by DMBand0026 Where do you see that? As far as I can see nothing has changed and he'll still be Bond.

where do you see he is? if you're talking about JAMES BOND 007: EVERYTHING OR NOTHING it's a bleeding video game. (for the 2nd time)

no where on the imdb page did it say he was going to be in a new bond film. he said 4 or 5 months ago he was done.

[Maciej]

He might be referring to this, in which case the next Bond movie is titled Bond 21, and Brosnan is no longer listed as being an actor in it. I think what he meant to say is that earlier in this thread, Brosnan was listed as playing it, but since then the snippet has been removed.

[Maciej]

Here is a nice article completely about this argument as-well.

[oldmacfan]

All I can say is "From Russia with Love". That was the first one I saw and I have a special place for that movie. I can remember recording it on a VCR when it first came to TV, those were the days.

[pscates2.0]

I remember, as a child and growing up in the 70's, ABC was real big on playing Bond flicks for their Sunday Night Movie. Anyone else remember this? It's where I first saw ones like "Live and Let Die", "The Man With The Golden Gun", etc.

It's also where I first heard - and learned about - the phrase "Viewer discretion advised". I'd have to go around and around with my parents to a) sit and watch them to begin with and b) stay up to 11:00 to see them all, which for a 7-10 year old kid on a school night, that was a big deal!



Good memories. Popcorn, nuzzled on the couch between Mom and Dad, seeing all these cool gadgets and cars and feeling kinda special because I was getting to watch "grown up" movies and stay up WAY past my bedtime!

[where's that wistful, misty-eyed smiley when I need it...]

[DMBand0026]

It's not "wistful" or "misty-eyed" but this will have to do for the time being.

Baby

[murbot]

If they make Bond covered in tattoos, without the ability to make new memories, Pierce is a fucking LOCK.

"Shaken, not stirred. Wait a minute. Have I already told you that? Let me write that on my leg."

[naren]

I'm rooting for Clive Owen to be the next Bond, he already has the whole fast car thing down.