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MacMan05
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Old 2006-04-04, 14:21

According to Think Secret, a Taiwanese company has won a contract to build 1.2 million iBook's.
The updated iBook's will fearure a 13.3 inch display and an Intel processor.

My wish list:

1. 1.67 GHz Intel Core Duo Processor (Solo most likely )
2. Widescreen display with 1440x900 resolution.
3. Built-in iSight camera
4. SuperDrive with dual-layer support
5. Standard 1 gig memory (yeah right!!!)
6. Included Office 2004 for Mac (Again, yeah right!!)
7. Front Row
Price of $1499.00

Miss something?

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Old 2006-04-04, 14:28

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Originally Posted by MacMan05
According to Think Secret, a Taiwanese company has won a contract to build 1.2 million iBook's.
The updated iBook's will fearure a 13.3 inch display and an Intel processor.

My wish list:

1. 1.67 GHz Intel Core Duo Processor (Solo most likely )
2. Display with 1440x900 resolution.
3. Built-in iSight camera
4. SuperDrive with dual-layer support
5. Standard 1 gig memory (yeah right!!!)
6. Included Office 2004 for Mac (Again, yeah right!!)
7. Price of $1499.00

Miss something?
Dupe.

Btw, 1440x900? Never gonna happen. On the other hand, lucky for you, the price will almost certainly be lower.
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Old 2006-04-04, 14:29

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Miss something?
This.


D'oh! chucker!!!
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Old 2006-04-04, 14:29

1440x900 would be a dream come true, but it'd never happen.
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Old 2006-04-04, 14:31

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This.


D'oh! chucker!!!
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Old 2006-04-04, 14:48

Sounds like a nice replacement for the 12" PowerBook, but I doubt that would be the new iBook.
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Old 2006-04-04, 15:59

And with dual-layer support? If it can't go into the MBP, it's not going in the iBook/MacBook.
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Old 2006-04-04, 16:05

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Miss something?
Sure. In the English language, the apostrophe should never be used to pluralize a noun.
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Old 2006-04-04, 17:10

1440x900 resolution is a little unreasonable right now, but with resolution independence hopefully comming soon who knows.
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Old 2006-04-04, 17:17

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Sure. In the English language, the apostrophe should never be used to pluralize a noun.
I foresee this is going become a pet peeve of yours Brad.



1440*900 pixels?



What you want is an MBP MacMan05!
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Old 2006-04-04, 18:58

The only way you're getting a 1440x900 screen on a portable Mac is to buy a 15" MacBook Pro. :>
13.3" will most likely be 1280x800 and 17" being 1680xsomething or perhaps Apple will (finally) catch up with PC laptop manufacturers and start including 1920x1200 panels on the 17". Just speculation, of course...

MacBook Pro 15"/2.2GHz C2D/120GB/2GB
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Old 2006-04-04, 19:00

MacBook availability in June presents an interesting problem, software-wise.

AppleWorks no longer ships on Intel computers. iWork is limited to a 30-day trial.
The MacBook is an education-market computer.

Can Apple ship an EDU product with no productivity software included?
Even if they bundle iWork, can they ship a computer with no basic spreadsheet capabilities?

It's not just me anymore. Even the Patent Office is on their back about Numbers.
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Old 2006-04-04, 19:06

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It's not just me anymore. Even the Patent Office is on their back about Numbers.
"The assigned examining attorney has reviewed the referenced application and determined the following."


Ok, which one of us examined this patent?

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Old 2006-04-05, 15:03

IIRC, Asustek also manufactures the current PowerPC versions of the iBook as well, so it's hardly surprising they'd make the Intel version.

The iBook is excellent for the educational market, so I don't think the specs will be as high as was proposed here. The price probably won't change from the base $999 price point. My guess at specs would be:

Base Model
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Core Solo processor at 1.5gHz
512MB memory
60GB hard drive
Airport (with Bluetooth as a BTO option)
1280x800 widescreen display
FrontRow & Remote
Intel 950 graphics (integrated)
$999

Upper Model
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Core Duo at 1.67gHz
512MB of RAM
100GB hard drive
Airport and Bluetooth
1280x800 widescreen display (15.4")
FrontRow & Remote
Intel 950 graphics (integrated)
$1299

For a consumer model, I don't expect we'll get an x1300 or x1600 card - but I'd sure like it if they did have something like that.

I'd imagine it would be released shortly for the edu buying season, and they'd probably cut a deal with Microsoft to include a discounted copy of Office Student & Teacher Edition - which runs acceptably fast through Rosetta as it is.
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Old 2006-04-05, 15:51

I'm thinking that there will only be one screen size for the time being as there was with the "chicklet" iBooks (initially). 13.3" seems a good compromise to satisfy those people who would previously choose between 12" and 14".

I'd also expect specs to mimic the mini very closely, so no dedicated GPU.

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Old 2006-04-05, 16:06

The high end model could easily have the ATI Mobility Radeon X1300.
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Old 2006-04-05, 16:14

Could? Of course it could. Will it happen? My magic 8 ball says "no".

ymmv, but my magic 8 ball kicks ass

ps - I would love to be wrong in this regard and hope that I am

edit - btw, most PC laptops in the iBooks intended price range use the integrated GMA950 graphics.

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Old 2006-04-05, 16:54

Yeah I high doubt that the Macbook will get dedicated graphics since the mac mini didn't, but if apple decides to make a 13.3 inch Macbook pro then dedicated graphics are a real possibility.
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Old 2006-04-06, 10:35

The X1300 in the higher end Macbooks would still leave plenty of product segmentation between the Macbook and the Macbook Pro because the latter uses the X1600. Apple would be foolish not to do it.
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Old 2006-04-06, 10:40

I think its possible if they get delayed until June that they come packing the slowest duo at 999. I think the MBPs will get a jump to 2.0 base, and 2.1 upgraded, and the 2.3 bto because the price on the core chips drops 30%ish (it differs per chip, some get as much as 50% cheaper) in May.
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Old 2006-04-06, 10:43

I'm not saying it's not possible, or that it's not a good idea. I'm just saying, look at a mac mini and add keyboard, pointing device, battery, much nicer than current iBook screen and a nifty rugged hinged case. You'll wind up at the price points where the iBook is slated to live without even touching the graphics chipset.

On another note, with the exception of games the iBook should perform all its duties admirably. While the integrated graphics don't amaze me, they should help battery life a bit as well.

In the end, all I'm saying is don't be surprised when it's not a dedicated graphics chip. Did anyone here really want to believe that the Mini would go from a dedicated chip to integrated graphics?
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Old 2006-04-06, 11:27

if they go integrated graphics in all iBook models, they had better come out with a 1500ish mobile comp with a gpu or I will fist Apple's collective puss
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Old 2006-04-06, 11:42

I forgot to add the following items to my prevoius post:

Also add integrated iSight and remote for frontrow

Integrated graphics aside, it should be a nice machine.
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Old 2006-04-06, 22:00

What would make it for me would be the ability to attach a large monitor and get more acreage. I hope that they will throw this ability in just because they can. The fact that it has been a 'disabled' feature in the past has me a little concerned, but I'm still hopeful.
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Old 2006-04-06, 22:12

Thing is, a large amount of people won't be buying a machine with integrated graphics. An X1300 is very much a consumer chip, and really should be the base of acceptable graphics.
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Old 2006-04-06, 22:15

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Thing is, a large amount of people won't be buying a machine with integrated graphics.
Prepare to be proven wrong.
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Old 2006-04-07, 00:05

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Thing is, a large amount of people won't be buying a machine with integrated graphics.
Have you seen Dell's sales lately? Yeah, integrated graphics suck, but if it lowers costs for a consumer machine than so be it. Grandma Edith doesn't play WoW.

I'd like to see 3 classes of portables though, to match each of the three classes of desktops. Lowest end with integrated, like the Mini; Mid-range with dedicated, like the iMac; and MacBook = Mac Pro (or what ever).

They should just make the Mini and the mobile counterpart a cheap piece of crap for about $400 each, because that's what sells.

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Old 2006-04-07, 09:03

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Have you seen Dell's sales lately? Yeah, integrated graphics suck, but if it lowers costs for a consumer machine than so be it. Grandma Edith doesn't play WoW.

I'd like to see 3 classes of portables though, to match each of the three classes of desktops. Lowest end with integrated, like the Mini; Mid-range with dedicated, like the iMac; and MacBook = Mac Pro (or what ever).

They should just make the Mini and the mobile counterpart a cheap piece of crap for about $400 each, because that's what sells.
Dell and Apple apeal to a very different demographic. The people who buy Macs generally have a clue what they're buying.
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Old 2006-04-07, 09:45

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Dell and Apple apeal to a very different demographic.
Yes, businesses generally buy Dell machines regardless of the video chip.

I'm not saying that suddenly businesses will adopt Macs, but there is a vast landscape of computing tasks and new iBooks with integrated video will fit in just fine.
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Old 2006-04-07, 11:54

The iBook is not designed for heavy graphics work.

The iBook is a consumer machine. It's designed for writing emails, browsing the web, and doing work that doesn't require a fancy GPU. It's not for getting super-fast framerates in Unreal Tournament. Integrated graphics work just fine for the sort of tasks one does on an iBook. You're not going to run WoW on an 13.3" laptop anyway.

Not to say that I wouldn't love to see an x1300 in an iBook, I just don't find it all that likely. And if they can drop the price a bit by using integrated graphics, it would be a worthwhile tradeoff.
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