[unixguru]

Originally Posted by sunrein The end of that line could be, "a supercomputer in your home." I just don't see how they could've worked out the cooling issues yet. I'd be afraid to set a PBG5 on my lap. MacDonald's wouldn't be the only one with a severe lap-burns lawsuit in their past.

I have desk in my home, as do many people. I'm sitting at my desk right now. The only thing that makes sense is "a supercomputer on your lap".

I just happened to think of something else too. I know most people take a look at the heat sinks on the Power Mac G5 and say, "There's no way that's going into a notebook!!!" But have you looked at the heat sinks on a PowerMac G4? They're pretty big too! In the portables, though, more of the chip's power-saving features were implemented.

I also think that the heat sinks for a 1.8Ghz 970FX are probably overkill. At 2.0 Ghz, the 970FX has an average consumption of 24.5 watts, and I'm sure that's without PowerTune. At 1.4Ghz, it consumes 12 watts. The MPC7447A, used in the current Powerbooks, consumes 20W at 1.42Ghz; more, but no telling how much more, at 1.5Ghz. I would guess a few watts more, putting it right in the same range as the 970FX. In fact, in all probability, the 970FX consumes less power at 1.8Ghz than an MPC7447A would. Enable Powertune, and you've got a Powerful notebook with the same cooling requirements and battery life as the current G4 models. If you're just word processing, PowerTune could likely cut processor power consumption by half or more.

I just find it really hard to dismiss the new Platform Extension plist in 10.3.5.

Either way, my money's on a 1.8Ghz Powerbook G5 by the end of the year. And with these banners, apparently real, I'm thinking Powerbook G5 annoucement in Paris!

[Messiahtosh]

What if the iMac/PowerBook lines merge? Kinda cool.

I mean, the two cross paths in terms of price range, so why not make the iMac/Powerbook into one line?

The eMac can be the AIO.

iBook is the low end portable.

Make an all new modular towerMac to fit where the old price range of the iMac was.

Keep the PowerMac as the top tier desktop.

Seems to work, no?

[Maciej]

I don't know. How portable could you make it? Not portable enough I think. Your talking about some sort of middle ground that isn't covered by the PowerBook. What would this mystical combo have that the PowerBook doesn't? I am afraid it would make it un-portable. I don't... remember what I was trying to say tho. I think you are trying too hard to come up with a new, ultra weird concept.

In my opinion Apple should look into some sub-notebooks. But this is a different story.

[Messiahtosh]

Ultra weird?

AIO desktops are just big-ass laptops.

iBook-portable and inexpensive from $1100

iMac-Portable and from $1400-$2700

ModuMac-Expandable, headless, cheap at $1000

eMac-AIO desktop for schools and such $799

PowerMac-desktop from $1999

[Maciej]

I don't see how the iMac is portable at all? It doesn't even have a battery.

[Messiahtosh]

Originally Posted by Sh0eWax I don't see how the iMac is portable at all? It doesn't even have a battery.

It has laptop components, an LCD, and has a small footprint, is expensive as hell right now, and is all-in-one, just like laptops.

Just rid of the iMac and make it the next PowerBook, call it an iMac though. Slap a G5 in there and replace the old iMac's spot with a modularMac.

[bborofka]

Originally Posted by Messiahtosh What if the iMac/PowerBook lines merge? Kinda cool. I mean, the two cross paths in terms of price range, so why not make the iMac/Powerbook into one line? The eMac can be the AIO. iBook is the low end portable. Make an all new modular towerMac to fit where the old price range of the iMac was. Keep the PowerMac as the top tier desktop. Seems to work, no?

This is what people (well, me at least) have been clamoring for all over here and AI. Everyone that is an advocate for LCD AIO designs, especially for the upcoming iMac, can you not see the similarities between the PoweBook and the iMac? They are so strikingly similar, I fail to see why we even need the latter. I think Mac users feel the same too, which is why they're buying more 'books and less iMacs, according to Apple's sales statistics. Unlike the iMac, you can get a space-saving, integrated LCD all-in-one design and portability.

The iMac should be phased out and its price-point replaced by a PowerMac G5 Express. Apple should remember why people use desktop PCs on their desk: because they have space for a computer and a monitor of their choice, want affordability and flexibility.

[bborofka]

Originally Posted by Messiahtosh It has laptop components, an LCD, and has a small footprint, is expensive as hell right now, and is all-in-one, just like laptops.

So it's basically just a laptop except it's not portable. And doesn't cover the qualities like small footprint, integration, attached LCD as well as a PowerBook. And we wonder why more and more Mac users are buying laptops instead of iMacs?

Originally Posted by Messiahtosh Just rid of the iMac and make it the next PowerBook, call it an iMac though. Slap a G5 in there and replace the old iMac's spot with a modularMac.

Why call it an iMac? PowerBook has been around longer and the name is more fitting. Replace the $1000-$2000 range with a minitower PowerMac G5 Express.

[Messiahtosh]

Sure, call it a PowerBook and the new modular mini tower can be called the iMac.

[Robo]

Wow, after seeing that banner Messiahtosh posted...well, if it's legit, bump PBG5 from "you're dreaming, pal" to "Jobs actually CARES!!!"

Seriously, though, that banner really, really hints at a "supercomputer for anywhere."

I didn't think we'd see a G5 in a Powerbook until January's Macworld, but if that ad is for real, I might be very happily suprised.

Of course, leave it to Apple to tease like that and get all our hopes up and then say "...now, a supercomputer for UNDER your desk!!! Oh, and G5 Powerbooks in 2005."

[c-choox]

Maybe they'll give us some kind of 17" G5 PB tablet with a docking station / stand to make it look like a cinema display...

[AlmostBoughtaLisa]

Originally Posted by c-choox Maybe they'll give us some kind of 17" G5 PB tablet with a docking station / stand to make it look like a cinema display...

Now you're talkin'! It could even be made to be used with an optional VESA-compliant mount adapter so you could mount it on a wall or an articulating arm.

"A Supercomputer on your Desk. Next? A Supercomputer..."

... in your Briefcase
or
... in your Hand
or
... in your Car
or
... on your Wall
or maybe even all of the above.

The large tablet form factor could do all of these. And Steve has said that he is not interested in PDAs because he doesn't think they have the power people really need. A tablet Mac (iPad?) would.

This is not entirely wishful thinking (another rumor site has discussed Apple's interest in touch-sensitive/tablet screens), but if forced to bet money on what will be unveiled in Paris, I admit I'd put it on a G5 PB.

[dfiler]

For me, ergonomics outweigh portability. Since a non insignificant number of people share this preference, laptops will never 'replace' non-portable computers.

However I too hope that the banners allude to a G5book.

[Messiahtosh]

Originally Posted by dfiler For me, ergonomics outweigh portability. Since a non insignificant number of people share this preference, laptops will never 'replace' non-portable computers. However I too hope that the banners allude to a G5book.

But laptops could replace AIOs, because of the similarity in components, overall size, and price.

[c-choox]

Originally Posted by dfiler For me, ergonomics outweigh portability. Since a non insignificant number of people share this preference, laptops will never 'replace' non-portable computers. However I too hope that the banners allude to a G5book.

According to my idea (A 17" G5 PB Tablet on a stand) ergonomics wouldn't be such an issue since the stand / docking station could have it's own full size keyboard /mouse with the PB keyboard folded up behind the screen when its on the stand - maybe someone needs to try and make a mock up of this...

[Messiahtosh]

Originally Posted by c-choox According to my idea (A 17" G5 PB Tablet on a stand) ergonomics wouldn't be such an issue since the stand / docking station could have it's own full size keyboard /mouse with the PB keyboard folded up behind the screen when its on the stand - maybe someone needs to try and make a mock up of this...

Everything would be vertically mounted...at this point, why not just make it a laptop...ridiculous.

If Apple makes an AIO yet again, it needs to be designed like one, which means something similar to the current iMac.

[Messiahtosh]

Over at AI this is being talked about. What the hell is it? It's surely not an Apple Cinema display, is it? I thought it might be at first, of course, but look at the positioning of the Apple logo.

http://homepage.mac.com/ihepworth/PhotoAlbum1.html

[pscates2.0]

That Apple logo is at the top, isn't it? What the hell is that?

It it was a Cinema Display it would have the white sides, right? At first I was looking at it, as though the logo were on the bottom, but if you tilt your head to the left, the Apple logo is more recognizable, making it at the top.



That's that black rubber-y flooring too. I was trying to place that as well (a restroom at an Apple Store?).

[c-choox]

Originally Posted by Messiahtosh Everything would be vertically mounted...at this point, why not just make it a laptop...ridiculous.

Because you don't always want your screen at desktop level, you don't always want your keyboard attached...

All I was suggesting was they could make one thing - a PB tablet type thing - but give it the ergonomics of an AIO (good posture, nice floaty screen etc) with a stand and external keyboard - if you want... (I guess maybe you don't )

[Messiahtosh]

Originally Posted by c-choox Because you don't always want your screen at desktop level, you don't always want your keyboard attached... All I was suggesting was they could make one thing - a PB tablet type thing - but give it the ergonomics of an AIO (good posture, nice floaty screen etc) with a stand and external keyboard - if you want... (I guess maybe you don't )

USB keyboards, PowerBook risers. Case closed.

[Messiahtosh]

Originally Posted by pscates2.0 That Apple logo is at the top, isn't it? What the hell is that? It it was a Cinema Display it would have the white sides, right? At first I was looking at it, as though the logo were on the bottom, but if you tilt your head to the left, the Apple logo is more recognizable, making it at the top. That's that black rubber-y flooring too. I was trying to place that as well (a restroom at an Apple Store?).

Yeah, the logo is at the top! So this is definitely not an ACD.

[Gizzer]

IF that really is the new iMac, that's Dull. Bigtime.

Where's the Apple flair? I know they like simple, but I think they've taken it a bit too literally. When you work out it's size from the skirting board and the rubber flooring (those circles are about an inch in diameter), I guess that's conceivably the 20" screen.

...On the other hand, someone has taken an old LCD & made a great fake with a plastic/card bezel around it!

[Messiahtosh]

http://homepage.mac.com/ihepworth/.P...s/DCP_1764.jpg

[bassplayinMacFiend]

Originally Posted by Messiahtosh Over at AI this is being talked about. What the hell is it? It's surely not an Apple Cinema display, is it? I thought it might be at first, of course, but look at the positioning of the Apple logo. http://homepage.mac.com/ihepworth/PhotoAlbum1.html

The url http://homepage.mac.com/ihepworth/PhotoAlbum1.html , is dead now. What does that mean? Anything?

[pscates2.0]

Why can't this knob simply take a picture of the #%@%! box OR lay the damn thing down and get a GOOD, straight-on pic of it and dispense with all the weird-angle, blurry, hoax-y looking nonsense?



He's there, with a camera supposedly. Quit screwing around and take a picture of the box where it says "iMac G5" or whatnot.

I could take my digital camera here at work, take a couple shots of my G4 tower at a weird enough angle and blur/finesse the result in Photoshop and have everyone here thinking it's the new G6 iBook...





This is getting lame...

Slowly-offered "tease" pics, I call 'em. A real person, onto a REAL product, would take the sorts of pics that actually confirm/proove everything.

Think about it and use common sense...

[NosferaDrew]

The Apple logo on the side of that box isn't even centered.
Apple has more attention to detail than that.
I smell PhotoShop.

[Messiahtosh]

Yeah, this is pretty fucking weird....though the Apple logo on my PowerBook box is not centered, it's about 1/3 of the way up from the bottom when the box is standing straight up and down.

[colonelforbin]

if this is real, could it just be a new metal-coloured 17" display?

[DaveGee]

Originally Posted by NosferaDrew The Apple logo on the side of that box isn't even centered. Apple has more attention to detail than that. I smell PhotoShop.

Ugh...

Never seen the side of an iBook box or a PowerBook box then have ya?

Logo isn't centered it's offset a few inches from the bottom of the box. The box is intended to 'stand' upright (or tall). I'm not saying this is 'for real' but the logo was NOT photoshoped on the cardboard box. That much I know.

Dave

[Messiahtosh]