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turtle
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2010-03-23, 00:26

Since I'm a recovering PC user would that be for the birth of OS 10?
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2010-03-23, 00:49

Yup. The Aqua-less Server 1.0 version shipped in 1999 and the Public Beta shipped in 2000, but the first "real" Mac OS X, Version 10.0, shipped on March 24, 2001. It'll be nine years old tomorrow. (They grow up so fast!)

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2010-03-23, 01:45

So I guess it is about time for OSXI then.
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2010-03-23, 01:51

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So I guess it is about time for OSXI then.
I think OS X still has a few years left in it. To be honest part of me feels like the Mac will have a very different place in the world by OS XI.

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2010-03-23, 02:16

I'm guessing we'll see two more OSX versions before another big leap. It took Apple 15 years to leap from the classic style OS to OSX, so they don't seem to be in a big rush with stuff like that.
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2010-03-23, 06:33

Awww... baby cheetah = cuteness.
And a ninth birthday... with 10 candles.
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2010-03-23, 08:22

KITTY awwwwwwww.
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2010-03-23, 08:52

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Awww... baby cheetah = cuteness.
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KITTY awwwwwwww.
For crying out loud stop being so soppy.............................Aww cute little Kitty........
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2010-03-23, 13:43

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I think OS X still has a few years left in it. To be honest part of me feels like the Mac will have a very different place in the world by OS XI.
Yes, OS XI is where the existing file structure/navigation is done away with completely (how's that for "fixing the Finder", you geeky puddingheads? Happy now? ) and the iPhone OS "matures" into a full-tilt desktop OS that anyone can use and navigate. We'll look back fondly on OS X the same way we do Newtons, Bondi blue iMacs and Danika Cleary.

The old-schoolers and hardcore Macheads will absolutely lose their minds.

There will be riots and hysteria, it should go without saying.




And yes...the kittycat gets major "cute" points. Meow!
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2010-03-23, 13:48

Oh gosh scates, I sure hope they don't bring iPhone OS to the desktop, I'd switch to Windows... seriously.
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2010-03-23, 14:08



I'm (halfway) kidding. It would have to be a lot more robust (of course). But I can imagine them taking some cues from these iDevices and stripping down/streamlining things more and more. But hopefully in a way that allows the customer/user to choose, based on their background and how they came to the Mac.

It wouldn't necessarily be the "iPhone OS", but it may very well borrow from it, in terms of navigation, file structure, etc.?



Or not.

Who the hell knows...



But it would take a lot more (and worse) than that to push me to Windows, that's for sure. So I'm not really worried about what's down the road.
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2010-03-23, 14:13

I can see an PC OS that abstracts the file system away from the regular user, very easily. Maybe the ability to navigate it would still exist for "power users" - in much the same way as Terminal still exists in OS X, then in XI then you could launch the Finder, but most users wouldn't need to.

Think somewhere between OS X for Mac and the iPads OS. But on a desktop/laptop.

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2010-03-23, 14:28

Yeah, that's what I had in mind.

In fact (I edited it), I wrote about how future Mac OS users might look at the current (OS X, Snow Leopard, etc.) file structure as something "serious and high-end, for certain types of user"...the way many of us currently using OS X think of those who use Terminal.

The new "default" might be that ultra-streamlined, iPad-inspired structure. With an option to turn that off and reveal the more "computer-y" version most of us know.

I just think about all those people out there who are (and will be) coming to the Mac via the iPhone, iPod touch and iPad in the years to come...would a simplified "shell", acting as sort of iTraining Wheels, be something that would slide them into the platform easier?

Or should they just man-up and do what we all did? What's with all these breaks and hand-holding?

Why, back in my day...





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I'm encouraged that both my parents, while not being particularly tech savvy, geeky or "into computers", have both taken so well to the Mac, and OS X. I never hear from either of them with "problems" or serious questions. I think that says a lot, and so maybe, while not perfect, the Mac OS seems a bit more approachable and "learnable" for the newbie/switcher?

I know the error/warning messages alone between Windows and the Mac OS are light years apart in tone, wording and levels of "oh shit...what does this mean, and what do I do?!?"

I've seen error/warning messages on XP and Vista that make you think you're about to die and fall into a crack in the earth. Indecipherable gibberish for the most part (you'd have to be an engineer at Microsoft to have any idea what it meant), and the parts that aren't this way just sound so damn bleak and dismal, with such a heavy "You're screwed." vibe.



On the Mac, it's more like "hey, buddy...you dropped your pencil. Need help picking it up? Okay, cool...". Very few things absolutely freak you out on a Mac, or are made to look worse than the average schmo can deal with. Something goes wrong on a PC, and most mortals immediately reach for the Geek Squad number...

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2010-04-03, 14:17

No iPad speed holes?
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2010-04-03, 15:40

Is there anywhere we can see a collection of screenshots of the speedholes and themes? Like a walk through history or a walk through Memory Lane? That would be cool - I remember some of the special themes I really loved, and of course there have been others I've missed but wouldn't mind seeing.
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2010-04-04, 15:51

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Is there anywhere we can see a collection of screenshots of the speedholes and themes? Like a walk through history or a walk through Memory Lane? That would be cool - I remember some of the special themes I really loved, and of course there have been others I've missed but wouldn't mind seeing.
Certainly! Here's the full set of speedholes images currently on the server, in alphabetic order:
























































And of course at least one holiday had no speed holes but instead had...

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I don't have screenshots of all the themes... I ought to fish out the various CSS files and catalog them some day, though.

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2010-05-15, 01:01

OK, I don't get the speed holes. I'm guessing it's other things that share a birthday with our lovely forum? Does the middle one represent lasers? They just turned 50.

I get it! It's things representing "6." The rightmost is John Quincy Adams, 6th President.

So is the middle...carbon? Six electrons, six protons, six neutrons? And on the right...Number Six, from BSG?

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2010-05-15, 01:12

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OK, I don't get the speed holes. I'm guessing it's other things that share a birthday with our lovely forum? Does the middle one represent lasers? They just turned 50.

I get it! It's things representing "6." The rightmost is John Quincy Adams, 6th President.

So is the middle...carbon? Six electrons, six protons, six neutrons? And on the right...Number Six, from BSG?
We have a winner. Well, that didn't take too long.
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2010-05-15, 01:36

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We have a winner. Well, that didn't take too long.
Carbon through me for a loop, until I counted the electrons. It looked like there were more.

I would totally help make a new set of "six" images, but I've just spent an embarrasingly long time searching for an image of the Magitek armor "icon" from the Final Fantasy VI logo without the text. I found no such thing, not even a poorly de-lettered version on DeviantArt. I only just now gave up.

(I really wish Square would provide those images, because I'd totally make an awesome clock out of them. "What time is it?" "Uh...gold...crystal?")

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2010-05-15, 02:06

ahem

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2010-05-15, 02:33

ZOMG: three speed holes representing sixes.

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2010-05-15, 02:43

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ahem

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Desktop Wallpaper Get!

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2010-05-15, 02:46

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ZOMG: three speed holes representing sixes.

SINZ OF Z ACAPULCO-LIPZ. MARK UV BEASTIES.
Don't be silly. The world doesn't end until May 27, 2012. And when it does, I'll get that fucking domain name.
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2010-05-15, 18:37

I'm afraid we can't condone anything to do with 666. sorry. ...............................
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2010-05-15, 19:02

So does this mean propane is pure evil?
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2010-05-15, 20:14

I'm confused about the reason we have new speedholes, and I'm not saying that critically, I'm just confused.

Did Brad stay up late watching Red Dragon or something...?

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2010-05-15, 20:50

It's AN's 6th Birthday!
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2010-05-15, 21:02

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It's AN's 6th Birthday!
D'oh!

Having been here since 2004 I should have figured that out... so my bad!
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2010-05-16, 16:31

Cheersh! 6!

/raisesglass
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2010-06-15, 22:00



Would anyone care to explain the occasion? /notatrekkie
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