[BenRoethig]

Originally Posted by ShadowOfGed OK, so after the Apple media event announcement for the 12th, this thread has, well, spun out of control. I really don't want to see this get locked by an admin, so here's a friendly reminder: This is the New PowerMac thread... the media event has it's own thread, conveniently located here. With that said, I think (and hope) that the PowerMac updates will be included in this media event next week, as a series of "One more thing..." style announcements, which will include the iPod video at the end, as per rampant speculation. Given the traces of evidence that have been floating around, here's what I suspect the new configuration may look like: 2x970MP G5 processors at 2.0, 2.3, and 2.5 GHz 512MB DDR2 SDRAM (BTO: up to 16GB) New ATI PCI-e card (BTO: NVIDIA 7800-based card) 250GB hard drive (BTO: 400GB and 2x 400GB?) PCI Express SATA-II Bluetooth 2.0+EDR standard (BTO: AirPort Extreme) Well, this is just my guess, in an effort to bring this thread back to wild, uncensored PowerMac speculation action. When you dream big enough, you can make any update seem mediocre! Happy speculation to all!

What I'd like to see:
1gb RAM standard
250gb hard drive low end, 400gb mid & high
128mb Radeon x1600Pro standard
256mb Radeon x1600XT BTO
256mb Radeon X1800XT BTO
256mb GeForce 7800 BTO

I'd also like to see the iMac updated with a 128mb x1300 and a new single processor tower to fill the gap between the PowerMac and the Mini.

[Musashi0008]

Originally Posted by Baron Munchausen I hear that the screen resolutions of PowerBooks are slated to go up by 10-15%. This may well enable HD (1080) resolution on 17" models, which IMHO are the 'sweet spot' for on-the-road editors.

You have to realize though that even if they come out with HD screens for the powerbooks, it won't really make much difference because the G4 processor is extremely tedious and slow in dealing with HD sources with FinalCut or anything else for that matter. So unless they were able to put a G5 in them, the HD screens would pretty much be a marketing ploy and not much else. But thats just my opinion....

[Musashi0008]

Originally Posted by BenRoethig What I'd like to see: 1gb RAM standard 250gb hard drive low end, 400gb mid & high 128mb Radeon x1600Pro standard 256mb Radeon x1600XT BTO 256mb Radeon X1800XT BTO 256mb GeForce 7800 BTO I'd also like to see the iMac updated with a 128mb x1300 and a new single processor tower to fill the gap between the PowerMac and the Mini.

Although I'm sure the X1000 line from ATI will eventually be available in BTO models, they havn't been released yet, and won't be released until, at the very earliest, November....More than likely it will be the X850 standard or BTO and the 7800 BTO. Lets hope anyway.

[jeannot]

The new power macs may also be available in november.

[BenRoethig]

x1300 and x1800 are shipping as of launch. x1600 is scheduled for the end of the month.

[oldmacfan]

Originally Posted by BenRoethig x1300 and x1800 are shipping as of launch. x1600 is scheduled for the end of the month.

Well that could explain the paper launch ATI has done with next nothing in the retail supply chain.

[scuttlebuttin]

New PowerMacs differ very greatly from the other Apple products right now in that they will not be transitioning to Intel anytime soon. That's a pretty big deal when you think of it and should influence our predictions and expectations.

For example.... the iMac, iBook, eMac, Powerbook, Mac Mini... they are all going to switch to Intel relatively soon, if not they probably have one more PPC update in them. Apple won't make major design and architecturally changes to those until they switch to Intel.

The PowerMac on the other hand will be using PPC for at least another year and at least 1 or 2 more updates, probably more like 2-3 more updates. With the new PPC 970MP they also have a new platform to market it off of and to build around until 2007 when it switches to Intel. Because of that we should expect the next PowerMac update to set up the PowerMac for the next year and subsequent updates.

So.... new case design, PCI express, and all the works.

[del-uks]

Originally Posted by scuttlebuttin The PowerMac on the other hand will be using PPC for at least another year and at least 1 or 2 more updates, probably more like 2-3 more updates

I'm not so sure...

[krestfallen]

sorry if this is a dump question but what's about the xbox360 chip? isn't it a ppc-processor with 3,2 GHz and 3 cores?

i have to ask why ibm can't provide dualcore g5's with more than, let's say 2,5GHz, when they deliver triplecore ppc-cpu's with 3,2GHz to Microsoft?

[scuttlebuttin]

Originally Posted by del-uks I'm not so sure...

Intel won't have a chip that really beats the G5 or offers Apple a big enough incentive to drop the G5 until late 2006/early 2007.

So, it makes sense.

[staph]

Originally Posted by krestfallen sorry if this is a dump question but what's about the xbox360 chip? isn't it a ppc-processor with 3,2 GHz and 3 cores? i have to ask why ibm can't provide dualcore g5's with more than, let's say 2,5GHz, when they deliver triplecore ppc-cpu's with 3,2GHz to Microsoft?

Read this

[McClendon]

Is this true?? I really need one as soon as possible!

The new power macs may also be available in november.

I hope not that would suck.

[lovehelena]

Originally Posted by McClendon Is this true?? I really need one as soon as possible! The new power macs may also be available in november. I hope not that would suck.

My brain says that the sentence was generated by the simple presumption

function having no close connection to what's going on in real world

of Cupertino Headquarter. It is just a sentence. One must not be

fooled by what is read. The truth is hardly recognizable if you are

not Chronomaster. If newer Powermac is not released on Oct. 12,

I will give up being living dead.

[McClendon]

Yea, but even if it is released, will it be available for order this week also?

[Robo]

Originally Posted by lovehelena My brain says that the sentence was generated by the simple presumption function having no close connection to what's going on in real world of Cupertino Headquarter. It is just a sentence. One must not be fooled by what is read. The truth is hardly recognizable if you are not Chronomaster. If newer Powermac is not released on Oct. 12, I will give up being living dead.

OK, that's it. Lovehelena, I'm sure your a great person and all, but why the hell do all your posts read like a Babelfish translation, or drugged poetry, or some viral marketing campaign gone horribly awry?

"Chronomaster"? WTF?

I mean, really. You're not entertaining anyone but yourself...

[lovehelena]

Originally Posted by Roboman OK, that's it. Lovehelena, I'm sure your a great person and all, but why the hell do all your posts read like a Babelfish translation, or drugged poetry, or some viral marketing campaign gone horribly awry? "Chronomaster"? WTF? I mean, really. You're not entertaining anyone but yourself...

I am a wanna-be poet, and about your criticism you may be right.
But I don't think our consciousness structure must be synchronized(are we
robot?) so as to make everybody's speech look normal.
I majored in English lit., which may have influenced my style of such an
unentertaining debris, sorry~~.
If you have further questions irrespective of Powermac, please tell me
through private message.

p.s. I am not a native speaker of English and have never been in U.S for
a second. I mentioned the fact ( that I learned English ) in that I
studied cultural and literary aspect of "British" history, not that I
learned how to get psychologically compatible with the linguistic
environment(U.S) in which those who harshly criticize the dull and
fragmentary words here on this thread are unconsciously stuck.
And I am not English teacher, man. Sorry about the stir my strange
expression is the cause of.

[RobM]

love is in the air, love is in the air ...

shoot, now I'm losing it - sorry guys.

C'mon Steve - tap tap tap ...

[Koodari]

I am suddenly reminded of a chemist friend of mine who lived in Japan for a while.
One time, he was approached by a Japanese guy who was really, really eager to talk. The problem was his english was near unintelligible, while my friend's was okay. My friend had to constantly interrupt:
"Sorry, I didn't quite get that. Come again?"
"Really sorry, what was that?"
"Pardon, can you repeat that?"
"Did you say ...?"
With great pains, they managed to exchange information about where they were from, that kinds of things. Then they came upon the subject of what their job is. And guess what the Japanese guy's job was?

English teacher.

I hear it was hard to suppress laughter at that point.

[staph]

Originally Posted by lovehelena But I don't think our consciousness structure must be synchronized(are we robot?) as to make everybody's speech look normal.

We're not robots, but syntax is an integral part of communication. Good syntax such as agreement (we and robot are different in number) and not eliding important parts of the sentence (that parenthetic statement wrt robots is missing a verb, and you're missing the demonstrative "so" before as) help us to understand what the bloody hell you're talking about.

I could understand a little more if you were working to a metre, but your lines aren't metrically regular so far as I can tell.

[AtHomeBoy_2000]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE dont let there be a price increase on the PowerMacs! THey already took away my 1.8 G% before i could buy it, now they are going to upgrade the whole line. I just want a low end PowerMac for video editing and Dual Monitor support. Dont hike the price!

[jcklaus]

Haven't read through all the pages, so sorry if someone else said this, but has anyone noticed no Tues. update on the ITMS. Seems to point that the site is going to change significantly tomorrow.

[DMBand0026]

You'll almost never see a price hike with a tech upgrade. However, this may be a different situation because the PowerMacs may move to a dual core chip. In a perfect world, the prices would all remain the same. If you really wanted a great situation, they'd even drop the prices. I hope the prices at least remain the same, but with the new chips, that may be impossible.

[Robo]

Originally Posted by AtHomeBoy_2000 PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE dont let there be a price increase on the PowerMacs! THey already took away my 1.8 G% before i could buy it, now they are going to upgrade the whole line. I just want a low end PowerMac for video editing and Dual Monitor support. Dont hike the price!

You really didn't want the single 1.8 GHz Power Mac anyway.

OK, that's a bit harsh. It's a nice machine (I mean, it's still a G5) but the dual processor G5s are definitely worth the extra dough. If you can afford a Power Mac now, be glad - you'll be getting more computer for your money.

Oh, and be glad that they're updating them, because updates are almost never accompanied by price hikes - they're just more computer for the money. So stop the lament for the single 1.8 GHz G5, because you might end up with a dual 2.3 GHz G5 or whatever.

You might get lucky and Apple's "one more thing" might be a G5 Cube Redux. If that fits your needs, you'd be getting more computer for less money.

I sure wish I was in the market to buy a new Power Mac tomorrow.

(Nah - I'd probably be better served with my also-just-updated new Powerbook, anyway. )

[RC23]

is anyone actually expecting a powerbook upgrade?

[mrkamputee]

Originally Posted by RC23 is anyone actually expecting a powerbook upgrade?

Hoping for one at least. I've waited long enough and I've got no time left , I'm going to just have to order the current model if nothing is announced. Playing along with the whole rumour game is so ridiculously challenging gah.

[Robo]

Originally Posted by RC23 is anyone actually expecting a powerbook upgrade?

Er, nearly everyone is expecting a Powerbook upgrade, considering it's been, what, about nine months since the last one? If your question was something like "Is anyone actually expecting a Powerbook G5?" than no, most of us aren't expecting an all-new Powerbook. I'm getting the feeling the Powerbook upgrade might be more than just a simple speed bump, though.

[oldmacfan]

Originally Posted by RC23 is anyone actually expecting a powerbook upgrade?

[Accused of smoking bad stuff]Me, but the rest here don't want to believe. [/Accused of smoking bad stuff]