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Louie · 2005-09-13, 11:41

the beta is out!!!
get here: http://macscan.securemac.com/

Kickaha · 2005-09-13, 11:48

Not to be rude or anything, but...

If there aren't any spyware, malware, loggers, etc, how do I know it actually works?

Isn't this a bit like wearing a life jacket in a boat in the middle of the Gobi desert, just in case you fall overboard?

Louie · 2005-09-13, 11:51

lol...yea...

709 · 2005-09-13, 11:55

I think the use of 10 exclamation points might have been a little overzealous considering what the software actually does.

Kickaha · 2005-09-13, 11:57

I mean, I'm not so naive as to think it's not *possible*, but I'm also not quite so paranoid as to think that I'm going to be the one that first finds an infection on my machine, out of all of Mac-dom.

*shrug*

Then again, I'm careful about what I install, let the home server do the packet filtering and alert me if anything unexpected is happening, etc.

On a more technical note: what does this tool look for, if there aren't specific packages it *could* be looking for? (Well, there's that one rootkit, but you have to be pretty lazy and/or stupid to get tricked by that one, since you have to be a) running as root, and b) launch it yourself.) I mean, does it just look for 'suspicious behaviour', for some definition of suspicious? I ran LittleSnitch for a while, and finally got so tired of it flagging perfectly normal behaviour that I turned it off - it was more annoying than protective.

Just curious.

Bryson · 2005-09-13, 12:07

Sounds like FUD to me....

Wickers · 2005-09-13, 12:09

Ok, maybe it's the coffee talking, but I so read the thread title as this:

Macs can!!! f...ly!!!!

AsLan^ · 2005-09-13, 12:58

Their forums seem to indicate that no one has found anything yet!

People also mentioned that it scans their computer... why would it do that, it seems the best way to look for trojans would be with port scans and monitoring outbound traffic on ports that shouldn't be there.

Also sounds like FUD to me too. I'll give it a shot.

Kickaha · 2005-09-13, 13:04

Also, check their list of Spyware that it finds.

The list is currently empty.

Hmmm.

Bryson · 2005-09-13, 13:11

Hey guys, good news. I've written a program that is just as effective as this.

And the best part is, all you need to do to download it is click here.

AsLan^ · 2005-09-13, 13:22

It doesn't really do anything... I just ran it against my applications folder and it found nothing! It should have found vncserver, which is running... I even had the relevent option checked.

DMBand0026 · 2005-09-13, 15:51

I'm a bit confused as to why anyone would run this. Is this another Intego thing?

torifile · 2005-09-13, 15:59

And why all the excitement? Have people been waiting for this for a while?? I must have missed something...

spotcatbug · 2005-09-13, 16:23

Maybe it's a joke?

Fooboy · 2005-09-13, 19:27

Maybe IT is malware.

MCQ · 2005-09-13, 19:42

Sounds to me like they haven't a clue what they're doing.

http://macscan.securemac.com/macscan...780317c3 108b

torifile · 2005-09-13, 20:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCQ

Sounds to me like they haven't a clue what they're doing.

http://macscan.securemac.com/macscan...780317c3 108b

Kinda sad, actually. It's like throwing a party, nearly no one comes and those who do get food poisoning or smell funny.

AsLan^ · 2005-09-13, 23:48

If you look inside the package contents there is a .plist file that contains the definitions for 13 pieces of *spyware*...

TakeDown Suite
TextTrap
SuperSave
Peeping Tom
Mac Life Insurance
Invisible Oasis/Last Resort
Keystroke Recorder
Type Saver
Type Recorder
Monitorer
Remote Admin Extentsion
Spector
Keyboard and Mouse Recorder

So... I suppose it just searches your hard drive for these thirteen programs, which don't really qualify as malware because someone has to install them purposely.

DMBand0026 · 2005-09-14, 00:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by torifile

And why all the excitement? Have people been waiting for this for a while?? I must have missed something...

Well...you'll want to note who started the thread. Further explanation should be unnecessary.

AsLan^ has pretty much confirmed that this is a FUD type deal with no real practical application. They just want to bilk people out of their money. Vultures.

Fooboy · 2005-09-14, 06:01

The forums are full of sketchy if not generated posts ...

seriously - is this company legit? How long have they been around. It wouldn't surprise me at all if its a malicious program with a bogus website.

Can anyone verify that those programs are acatual spyware and not just made up?

curiousuburb · 2005-09-14, 08:52

ARD isn't in the list? WTF?

coder: "let's search for programs that record keystrokes/passwords (potentially) as a background process"

coder2: "how about the obvious... an admin tool common to many schools... BackOrifice-ish"

coder: "nah, let's pick 13 little known ones instead"

Ichiban_jay · 2005-09-15, 04:23

wow... finally. It's been 9 months since they announced that they were working on a new version. I totally forgot about them until now... Used to have a bunch more definitions but it was for OS9 so I guess not relavent anymore.

They've been around for a while now, they kept emptying the forums every month or so because it got flooded with "when is the new version coming" type posts... It used to also be filled with a bunch of people talking about what apps they think is acting as spyware.... Then... it got flooded with ads...

Anywho, it's nice to see that they are alive. For 5 months they only had one update on their news section saying "Happy New Year!"

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Louie I hate content Join Date: May 2005 Location: lost somewhere	2005-09-13, 11:41 the beta is out!!! get here: http://macscan.securemac.com/
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Kickaha Likes his boobies blue. Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hell	2005-09-13, 11:48 Not to be rude or anything, but... If there aren't any spyware, malware, loggers, etc, how do I know it actually works? Isn't this a bit like wearing a life jacket in a boat in the middle of the Gobi desert, just in case you fall overboard? My other brain is hung like a horse too. #IRC isn't old school. Old school is being able to say 'finger me' with a straight face.
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Louie I hate content Join Date: May 2005 Location: lost somewhere	2005-09-13, 11:51 lol...yea...
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709 Damned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Purgatory	2005-09-13, 11:55 I think the use of 10 exclamation points might have been a little overzealous considering what the software actually does.
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Bryson Rocket Surgeon Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouvershire	2005-09-13, 12:07 Sounds like FUD to me....
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Wickers is not a kind of basket Join Date: May 2004	2005-09-13, 12:09 Ok, maybe it's the coffee talking, but I so read the thread title as this: Macs can!!! f...ly!!!!
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AsLan^ Not a tame lion... Join Date: May 2004 Location: Narnia	2005-09-13, 12:58 Their forums seem to indicate that no one has found anything yet! People also mentioned that it scans their computer... why would it do that, it seems the best way to look for trojans would be with port scans and monitoring outbound traffic on ports that shouldn't be there. Also sounds like FUD to me too. I'll give it a shot. http://MyCatnipFactory.com
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Kickaha Likes his boobies blue. Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hell	2005-09-13, 13:04 Also, check their list of Spyware that it finds. The list is currently empty. Hmmm.
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AsLan^ Not a tame lion... Join Date: May 2004 Location: Narnia	2005-09-13, 13:22 It doesn't really do anything... I just ran it against my applications folder and it found nothing! It should have found vncserver, which is running... I even had the relevent option checked. http://MyCatnipFactory.com
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DMBand0026 Disturb the universe Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicago	2005-09-13, 15:51 I'm a bit confused as to why anyone would run this. Is this another Intego thing?
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torifile Less than Stellar Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Durham, NC	2005-09-13, 15:59 And why all the excitement? Have people been waiting for this for a while?? I must have missed something...
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spotcatbug Veteran Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Meadville, PA	2005-09-13, 16:23 Maybe it's a joke?
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Fooboy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005	2005-09-13, 19:27 Maybe IT is malware.
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MCQ Veteran Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: NY	2005-09-13, 19:42 Sounds to me like they haven't a clue what they're doing. http://macscan.securemac.com/macscan...780317c3 108b
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Fooboy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005	2005-09-14, 06:01 The forums are full of sketchy if not generated posts ... seriously - is this company legit? How long have they been around. It wouldn't surprise me at all if its a malicious program with a bogus website. Can anyone verify that those programs are acatual spyware and not just made up?
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curiousuburb Antimatter Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: that interweb thing	2005-09-14, 08:52 ARD isn't in the list? WTF? coder: "let's search for programs that record keystrokes/passwords (potentially) as a background process" coder2: "how about the obvious... an admin tool common to many schools... BackOrifice-ish" coder: "nah, let's pick 13 little known ones instead" Last edited by curiousuburb : 2005-09-14 at 08:53.
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