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alcimedes
2004-08-27, 00:21
Ok, so it's a bit ugly, but I found the cookie sheet thread, sort of.

Here it is. The images are broken in a lot of places, which makes some of the explanations make a little less sense, but you should still be able to piece it together.

Page 1 (http://www.alcimedes.com/cookiesheet1.html)

Page 2 (http://www.alcimedes.com/cookiesheet2.html)

The links between pages won't work, so you'll have to click on these links to get the threads to work properly. Great reading for people who want to know how chips are fabbed. gEEk went all out on this one.

edit: oops, and Eskimo. sorry man. :)

_Ω_
2004-08-27, 00:33
Looks like Eskimo was doing all the heavy hitting :eek:

curiousuburb
2004-08-27, 03:46
Now I want to see the missing images. :grumble: ;)
Highly informative, and typical of a few of the AI gurus on the chip/EE side of the hardware fence.

curiousuburb
2004-08-27, 04:07
Searching the page sources, found a trail that led to this (http://www.khlim.be/~jgenoe/Cursus/pndiodefabricatie/diodeframe.html) frames page with text and animation on one side and relevant photos on the other that seems to echo much of Eskimo's process description.

And yes, it's in an open directory. :D ;)

Escher
2004-08-27, 08:29
I still cannot get over the loss of history and knowledge that occurred when the G4 Cube server that hosted AppleInsider in the early days (and its operators) went AWOL!

Ok, so it's a bit ugly, but I found the cookie sheet thread, sort of.

Did you use King Chung Huang's pre-blackout AI archive (http://commons.ucalgary.ca/king/appleinsider/), which he gathered from caches available on the Internet Archive (http://www.archive.org/web/web.php)? The latter might be a useful source for some of the missing images.

Escher

alcimedes
2004-08-27, 08:32
Escher Yes, and yes.

Found his page, found the thread, but that's all i could get out of it. the images were all gone. if someone wants to do the legwork, and find appropriate images to put into the thread, let me know. i'll host them and fill in the empty spots.

Moogs
2004-08-27, 09:17
OMG... just seeing those colors and that old page layout is a major trip down memory lane! Those were the good ole days, "when times wuz simple... men were men and workerbees ran scared."

;)

curiousuburb
2004-08-27, 12:38
Escher Yes, and yes.

Found his page, found the thread, but that's all i could get out of it. the images were all gone. if someone wants to do the legwork, and find appropriate images to put into the thread, let me know. i'll host them and fill in the empty spots.

image names and rough sequence correspond to the ones I noted above.

Searching the page sources, found a trail that led to this frames page (http://www.khlim.be/~jgenoe/Cursus/pndiodefabricatie/diodeframe.html) with text and animation on one side and relevant photos on the other that seems to echo much of Eskimo's process description.

And yes, it's in an open directory. :D ;)

curiousuburb
2004-08-27, 13:40
for example:

Eskimo links to <img src="cookiesheet1%20Files/polysiliconingot.htm >
and the open img directory (http://www.khlim.be/~jgenoe/Cursus/pndiodefabricatie/imgs/) has a jpg called polysiliconingot (which is how I googled the page)
http://www.khlim.be/~jgenoe/Cursus/pndiodefabricatie/imgs/polysiliconingot.jpg

Several of the other '.htm' linked images have identical names as the belgian jpgs.
Not perfect, but the highest percentage of matches from a single source I've found so far.

alcimedes
2004-08-27, 14:14
you post 'em i'll host 'em.

i'm just too lazy to go hunting. :D

Escher
2004-08-27, 19:40
OMG... just seeing those colors

Colors? What colors? It was gray on gray, like today. ;)

Anybody remember the Blue/White color scheme or the good old MacNN Reality?

Escher

curiousuburb
2004-08-27, 20:33
you post 'em i'll host 'em.

i'm just too lazy to go hunting. :D

Write a script or manually do a search/replace on the Cookie sheet page html to redirect all the img scr="cookie1%20Files/***.htm" to "http://www.khlim.be/~jgenoe/Cursus/pndiodefabricatie/imgs/***.jpg" and most of the images should appear. A few of the diagrams are gifs, so it may take a tweak or two.

There are some also img src links to interface elements of the old AI theme, but if you can wildcard the search to keep filenames and convert the .htm to .jpg, it might avoid the UI bits that are already image formats.

YMMV

curiousuburb
2004-08-27, 20:40
Or you can just do two separate replace jobs... one for the directory path, one for .htm to .jpg
but I suspect that will bork the UI theme elements that are in that subdirectory.

Or you could copy all imgs in that directory into your subtree and just replace the .htm with .jpg or .gif

Depends which seems more efficient or effective, but there are a few options to try.