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ChuckyWonkers
2004-09-24, 06:57
:confused: Can U use a SATA to USB-2.0 Enclosure with the new Imac G5......?
I found this product wich states :
OS Compatibility: Works with all Operating Systems that support SATA drives
product link is here......
http://www.cwol.com/serial-ata/external-3-5-sata-hard-drive-enclosure.htm
If this sort of enclosure is usable under OS X this would be excellent :D for video editing especially....

ANY SUCCESS STORIES OUT THERE ???????

DO ANY TECH-HEAD FREAKO's OUT THERE KNOW THE ANSWER.....??? :confused:

OH OH .... PLEASE PLEASE :eek: I NEED :err: TO KNOW

Any help would be appreciated many thanks in advance from an australian MacPornographer

I can be emailed at ZENMASTER@CRAPMAIL.COM :smokey:

ChuckyWonkers
2004-09-24, 07:03
I'm sorry I have listed wrong product link and am frantically trying to find the correct one...........

_Ω_
2004-09-24, 07:07
:confused: :confused:

:lol: :lol:

:p :p

;)

staph
2004-09-24, 07:55
Cripes mate, you should take a deep breath before you burst a blood vessel.

At any rate, all external harddrives which use USB as their primary interface with your computer should be Mac-compatible. You should probably note that you're likely to get better performance out of Firewire, despite its lower theoretical peak throughput.

If you're really worried about hard-drive speed, you'd probably be better off looking at something like this (http://epowermac.com.au/product.asp?P_ID=156) anyway, although it would easily saturate the USB and Firewire 400 busses.

Oh… and you might be interested in the hardware compatibility databases (http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/drivedb/search.drivedb.lasso) over at xlr8yourmac (http://www.xlr8yourmac.com).

ChuckyWonkers
2004-09-25, 03:21
Cripes mate, you should take a deep breath before you burst a blood vessel.

At any rate, all external harddrives which use USB as their primary interface with your computer should be Mac-compatible. You should probably note that you're likely to get better performance out of Firewire, despite its lower theoretical peak throughput.

If you're really worried about hard-drive speed, you'd probably be better off looking at something like this (http://epowermac.com.au/product.asp?P_ID=156) anyway, although it would easily saturate the USB and Firewire 400 busses.

Oh… and you might be interested in the hardware compatibility databases (http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/drivedb/search.drivedb.lasso) over at xlr8yourmac (http://www.xlr8yourmac.com).






TAKING DEEP DEEP BREATHES.........whoooooooo hooooooooo :eek:
thats it feel so much better now.


THANX 4 THAT INFO I WILL CHECK IT.......... :err:

Moogs
2004-09-25, 08:42
Notice:

Take it from Moogs: there is no such thing as a Serial ATA drive enclosure that has a native SATA-to-FW or SATA-to-USB2 bridge. In point of fact I've only seen one enclosure that didn't require some type of lame bridge chip that you have to slap on the back of your drive.

I have spent a lot of time on numerous attempts since last Fall looking for such a thing and it just doesn't exist, because there is apparently not much demand for it.

Luca
2004-09-25, 10:55
Yeah, give it a year or two for SATA to really take over. Currently most SATA drives don't even have a native SATA interface... they use ATA/133 with a bridge. Even the Western Digital Raptor does. I think Seagate's SATA drives are native, as is the new Maxtor Diamondmax 10 (which, by the way, benchmarks equally to the WD Raptor, despite being 7200 RPM).

Moogs
2004-09-25, 11:55
Hmm. I didn't realize the Raptor is not native SATA. How did you reach that conclusion? Nothing on the product page (http://westerndigital.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=65) seems to indicate it's ATA/133.

Luca
2004-09-25, 12:05
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=diamondmax10&page=1

Page 2 of the review has a table showing that only the Seagate 7200.7 (which I think is the one being used in the iMac G5) and the Maxtor are using native SATA interfaces. The rest use bridges. The review also points out that it doesn't make a huge difference.

Maxtor’s introduction of a 16MB cache buffer on their new DiamondMax 10 line of drives will no doubt kick start the rest of the hard drive industry to follow, especially since the performance of these drives appears to be pretty fantastic considering it’s still based 7,200 RPM spindle speed technology. The DiamondMax 10 brings along some important changes to this line of hard drives which catapults Maxtor to the top of the technology ladder.

Our benchmarks have shown that raw performance levels of the DiamondMax 10 are not up to par with Western Digital’s Raptor, but that’s not incredibly surprising considering the 33% difference in spindle speed. Still, the DiamondMax is without a doubt the fastest 7,200 RPM drive we’ve ever tested. While performance levels are slightly below the Raptor, DiamondMax 10 series drives still have some very important factors going for them, like current capacity levels up to 300GB (in comparison to the Raptor’s 74GB), and a price per gigabyte level well below Western Digital’s Raptor ($0.98 / GB to $3.30 /GB).

In addition, the slower 7,200 RPM spindle speed allows for very low noise levels for such a high performance disk. Surprisingly though, the DiamondMax 10 drives run very hot to the touch, even hotter than our 10,000 RPM Raptor drives. According to our S.M.A.R.T monitoring software, the DiamondMax drive was running at over 10C higher (54C to 43C) temperatures during our testing compared to the Raptor. While this surprised us at first, when you consider Western Digital is dealing with only two small platters compared to three large platters, it’s easy to see how thermals can be higher with the DiamondMax. In addition, the Raptor has integrated heatsink fins right on the drive, so that no doubt helps. We would recommend some sort of active cooling on these drives – even if it’s a low speed fan blowing at ~1000 RPM or so – just to keep airflow moving.

As for Native Command Queuing, well, we were a bit disappointed with our results given all the hype surrounding the technology. The majority of our benchmarks showed slower performance levels with NCQ enabled, although some of our benchmarks do show some rays of home. I liken NCQ to Hyper-Threading – you really don’t see performance increased when you’re running a single application, but when you’re running a lot of applications simultaneously, things just “feel” smoother. I went ahead and installed an OS on one of the DiamondMax 10 drives with NCQ and another without, and the drive with NCQ enabled did seem much faster when loading a lot of applications at once. Still, we’re thrilled that this technology is finally making it down to the consumer level, even if it’s only truly available for those who own Socket-775 Pentium 4 systems at this time.

In our opinion, the Maxtor DiamondMax 10 is the best 7,200 RPM drive on the market, bar none. We’re guessing both Western Digital and Seagate will no doubt respond with force within the next two months.

ChuckyWonkers
2004-09-25, 12:27
Would the maxtor diamond max 10 series drives be usable in the new iMac G5s.....????? As they produce so much heat.........how HOT is 2....HOT
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
ANY OPINIONS ........??????????????????

YAH.... :eek:




http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=diamondmax10&page=1

Page 2 of the review has a table showing that only the Seagate 7200.7 (which I think is the one being used in the iMac G5) and the Maxtor are using native SATA interfaces. The rest use bridges. The review also points out that it doesn't make a huge difference.

Luca
2004-09-25, 12:32
Actually it sounds like it might be a bad idea to use a Diamondmax 10 in a new iMac. The review said it gets very hot, hotter than the WD Raptor. In fact, you'd be better off putting a Raptor in the iMac. That would probably make it much faster.

I bet Apple chose Seagate because their drives tend to be the quietest (and therefore, probably also the coolest), at the expense of performance. But I don't think you'd see much difference in performance unless you moved from the stock drive to a Raptor. Going from a standard Seagate drive to a slightly faster Hitachi will probably not change anything.

Moogs
2004-09-25, 13:46
Seagate's are known for their quiet operation, however I believe the more recent generation of 74GB Raptors use new Liquid Bearings instead of the old "rattling" type found in other drives and the 36GB Raptor variant... so it should be pretty quiet also.

The Seagate 7200.7 has been out for quite a while... wondering if a newer, higher performance SATA drive is nearing release for them.

ChuckyWonkers
2004-10-03, 03:09
Notice:

Take it from Moogs: there is no such thing as a Serial ATA drive enclosure that has a native SATA-to-FW or SATA-to-USB2 bridge. In point of fact I've only seen one enclosure that didn't require some type of lame bridge chip that you have to slap on the back of your drive.

I have spent a lot of time on numerous attempts since last Fall looking for such a thing and it just doesn't exist, because there is apparently not much demand for it.

RE E E E E E EALLY

TRY THIS THREAD......
http://www.wiebetech.com/products/traydock.php

and what do we fiind??????????????

A SATA to USB or FIREWIRE DRIVE ENCLOSURE............. :lol: :lol: :lol:

ARE U WEEPING LIKE A SOGGY PRETZEL :no:

BURST A BLOOD VESSEL INDEED :devil:

GO AND SNORT CURRY THRU UR BUTTOCKS..................... :eek: OUCH

NosferaDrew
2004-10-03, 03:26
Stop being a dick.
You won't get any points for that here.

ChuckyWonkers
2004-10-03, 11:46
Stop being a dick.
You won't get any points for that here.

Oh ........dear I'm so sorry I did not realise I was being a ****, this happens sometimes as a result of the fact that I am an only child.........sigh

:confused: I must ? try to better myself........thanx for pulling me up........

Please accept my humblest apologies, hope your PMS eases up a little...soldier on fella.



:D Ciao

DMBand0026
2004-10-03, 11:52
Dude, he's right, you are being a dick. Please shut up. Learn how to type entire words and sentences. Your virtual sputtering of sentence fragments and abbreviated words has impressed no one. Learn to type, learn to spell, learn some grammar, and quit being a dick to everyone trying to help you. That really won't get you anywhere, unless you're going for a lot of lost respect. In that case, keep up the good work. :no:

Luca
2004-10-03, 12:05
Oh ........dear I'm so sorry I did not realise I was being a ****, this happens sometimes as a result of the fact that I am an only child.........sigh

:confused: I must ? try to better myself........thanx for pulling me up........

Please accept my humblest apologies, hope your PMS eases up a little...soldier on fella.



:D Ciao
That was one of the most partronizing and sarcastic things I've ever read. Shut the hell up, asswipe, before I ban you.

ChuckyWonkers
2004-10-03, 12:36
That was one of the most partronizing and sarcastic things I've ever read. Shut the hell up, asswipe, before I ban you.

I apologize if you guys really have no sense of humour.
My God. I will refrain from making comments that offend everybodys sensibilities.
I'm very sorry OK...........sheesh :no:

Luca
2004-10-03, 12:43
Why do you come in and insult everyone, then claim we have no sense of humor? Maybe if you had said something funny we would have appreciated it. But now even when you do apologize, you're not sincere about it.

This thread is locked. Check your private messages, Chucky.