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tim2006
2007-04-18, 10:13
I think I have decided on the 360. As stated I have a 1080p Sharp lcd. Should I wait for the elite or go with the pro. I know the elite has hdmi and larger hd. I don't care about the hd. I think my tv does do 1080 thru component. Any comments?

Yontsey
2007-04-18, 10:27
how big is your tv?

tim2006
2007-04-18, 10:33
42 in

Wyatt
2007-04-18, 11:19
I think I have decided on the 360. As stated I have a 1080p Sharp lcd. Should I wait for the elite or go with the pro. I know the elite has hdmi and larger hd. I don't care about the hd. I think my tv does do 1080 thru component. Any comments?
The 360 doesn't do 1080p through component. You need to use VGA on the Pro model or HDMI on the Elite model. If your TV has a VGA input, you can save some cash and buy the Pro. Hell, you could buy the Core model and a VGA cable if you wanted (although the 360 is a sub-par experience without the hard drive).

cosus
2007-04-18, 11:22
I thought the xbox in general had a max resolution of 1080i?

spikeh
2007-04-18, 11:29
I thought the xbox in general had a max resolution of 1080i?

It initially did, but now they have updated the firmware to 1080p.

cosus
2007-04-18, 12:07
Does that mean now that games on the xbox will also be 1080p?

Wyatt
2007-04-18, 14:15
Does that mean now that games on the xbox will also be 1080p?
Only if a particular title supports it. Each game supports different resolutions. No game released before the firmware update (AFAIK) plays at 1080p. However, future games can support it. There are already a few in the pipeline, and I guarantee Halo 3 will support it.

Robo
2007-04-18, 14:19
I would just spend $120 more and get a Blu-ray player, but that's just me. I don't want to turn this into a PS3-vs.-360 thread.

Keep in mind that even the "Elite" 360 doesn't support WiFi out of the box. Microsoft produces an adaptor, which is ridiculously priced ($99).

cosus
2007-04-18, 14:45
Sony discontinued their discounted PS3.

torifile
2007-04-18, 18:29
Sony discontinued their discounted PS3.
$479 + 120 = $599, or the 60 gig version of the PS3.

Windowsrookie
2007-04-18, 18:48
$479 + 120 = $599, or the 60 gig version of the PileofShitx3.

:D :p

Kraetos
2007-04-18, 18:51
I would just spend $120 more and get a Blu-ray player, but that's just me. I don't want to turn this into a PS3-vs.-360 thread.

Keep in mind that even the "Elite" 360 doesn't support WiFi out of the box. Microsoft produces an adaptor, which is ridiculously priced ($99).

Yeah, but you can use any old ethernet bridge with the 360 too. Newegg has a cheap, no-name, but well reviewed (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833176105) one for $30.

There's no denying that the PS3 is a better box from a hardware and build quality standpoint, that's for sure. But the Xbox certainly has it's advantages as well. Although, mine keeps freezing. :grumble:

spikeh
2007-04-18, 18:54
Yeah, but you can use any old ethernet bridge with the 360 too. Newegg has a cheap, no-name, but well reviewed (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833176105) one for $30.

There's no denying that the PS3 is a better box from a hardware and build quality standpoint, that's for sure. But the Xbox certainly has it's advantages as well. Although, mine keeps freezing. :grumble:

The freezing thing happened to two of mine before the PSU's went. Call MS ASAP.

chucker
2007-04-18, 18:58
The 360 doesn't do 1080p through component. You need to use VGA on the Pro model or HDMI on the Elite model. If your TV has a VGA input, you can save some cash and buy the Pro. Hell, you could buy the Core model and a VGA cable if you wanted (although the 360 is a sub-par experience without the hard drive).

Are you suggesting 1080p through VGA? :|

Kraetos
2007-04-18, 19:18
The freezing thing happened to two of mine before the PSU's went. Call MS ASAP.

Absolutely. I plan to once I get home. I loathe MS support agents, though. :grumble:

Are you suggesting 1080p through VGA? :|

The whole 1080p though VGA has me dubious, too. I'm not sure how the Xbox 360 is going to pull it off.

Windowsrookie
2007-04-18, 19:26
What's wrong with 1080p through VGA? They've been doing it for months now.

tim2006
2007-04-18, 19:49
Yeah, but you can use any old ethernet bridge with the 360 too. Newegg has a cheap, no-name, but well reviewed (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833176105) one for $30.

There's no denying that the PS3 is a better box from a hardware and build quality standpoint, that's for sure. But the Xbox certainly has it's advantages as well. Although, mine keeps freezing. :grumble:

Is it better to go PS3?

Kraetos
2007-04-18, 19:52
Is it better to go PS3?

There's already a thread for that.

(Which you started ;) )

tim2006
2007-04-18, 20:13
There's already a thread for that.

(Which you started ;) )

oh yea. ha ahahahahh

Wraven
2007-04-18, 20:20
I hope they stick an "XBOX 1337" on the box (just to poke a little fun at themselves). :)

Robo
2007-04-18, 21:16
I hope they stick an "XBOX 1337" on the box (just to poke a little fun at themselves). :)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

spikeh
2007-04-19, 06:56
Absolutely. I plan to once I get home. I loathe MS support agents, though. :grumble:

In my experience they have been loads better than Apple :)

I hope they stick an "XBOX 1337" on the box (just to poke a little fun at themselves). :)

:lol:

beardedmacuser
2007-04-20, 08:26
It's possible, but unlikely, that the 360 elite has the die-shrunk CPU. From this description of the innards of such a beast; Inside the Xbox 360 Elite (http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/news/inside_the_xbox_360_elite.htm).

Wyatt
2007-04-20, 08:33
It's possible, but unlikely, that the 360 elite has the die-shrunk CPU. From this description of the innards of such a beast; Inside the Xbox 360 Elite (http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/news/inside_the_xbox_360_elite.htm).
The elite does not use the new CPU, according to Microsoft. Units using it won't be available until later this year.

washington mac user
2007-04-22, 22:53
I'm getting the elite after the price drop which will likely be this winter. I decided to go with the 360 because of the games. The PS3 has no exclusives that challenge any of the 360's. Games coming out for the 360 this year include: Too Human, Bioshock, GTA 4 (not exc), Mass Effect, Halo 3, Devil May Cry 4 (not exc), Shadowrun, C&C 3, Two Worlds, Blue dragon, Elveon, UT3 (not exc), Lost Odyssey, Alan Wake. Some that I mentioned are also coming out on PC. Now give me some PS3 games for this year...

[edit] exc = all i could find are Lair, Heavenly Sword, MGS4. not exc = GTA 4, DMC 4, UT3.

washington mac user
2007-04-29, 16:02
well the elite was released today, anybody get it yet?

tacvbo83
2007-04-29, 18:14
I'm about to go check it out at a friends house who got it today. HALO 2!!!

tacvbo83
2007-05-01, 10:36
Well after playing it, I will probably end up buying one next weekend. Going from regular Xbox to this made a huge difference in playing Halo 2. Looks MUCH better and feels better as well. I highly recommend it.

Yontsey
2007-05-01, 10:40
I feel like it's bullshit what Microsoft did to us early adapters of the 360. I enjoy my 360 and I was one of the first to get it in the preorder, but mine doesnt have HDMI and that is the only way my Sony tv will receive 1080p. Im slightly bitter about the situation, especially since I bought the HD-DVD add-on.

washington mac user
2007-05-02, 03:18
im waiting for the GPU and CPU to go 65nm this fall, then I'll get it.

torifile
2007-05-02, 08:27
Well after playing it, I will probably end up buying one next weekend. Going from regular Xbox to this made a huge difference in playing Halo 2. Looks MUCH better and feels better as well. I highly recommend it.
Umm, you know, it's likely the "360" part of the package that's making it seem that much better rather than the "elite" $80+ extra you're paying for marginal features...

You can get Premium 360 for $350 or less fairly easily so is the extra HD space and the HDMI worth the cost for you?

tacvbo83
2007-05-05, 00:12
im waiting for the GPU and CPU to go 65nm this fall, then I'll get it.

Can you list some of the advantages on that? Some things I have read is less heat and power consumption.

Umm, you know, it's likely the "360" part of the package that's making it seem that much better rather than the "elite" $80+ extra you're paying for marginal features...

You can get Premium 360 for $350 or less fairly easily so is the extra HD space and the HDMI worth the cost for you?


I know that. It's an obvious. Premium 360s' are currently still $400 where I live and for $80 more I rather get the elite for extra space and for my future tv purchase with HDMI. I also get a headset and free month of live. I am glad I did not get the Premium 360 months ago or when it came out.

Windowsrookie
2007-05-05, 00:12
Can you list some of the advantages on that? Some things I have read is less heat and power consumption.

And price. :)

atomicbartbeans
2007-05-06, 15:51
4:45:27 PM mitchrusk11: "To be my friend you are required to have a wireless network (802.11b,g,n) it must be opened, Or I must be informed of the wi-fi code. You must also own an Apple product (headphones + other items worth under $29.99 are excluded) or desire an Apple product and have at least half of the cost saved."

4:46:11 PM mitchrusk11: "Girls are exluded from these few rules as long as they A. offer blowjobs or b. offer friends that are willing to do blowjobs"

4:47:42 PM rofltosh: rick & i are gonna have a lan party out in my backyard

4:47:45 PM rofltosh: you should come

4:48:37 PM mitchrusk11: Sec. 3a: "your Apple to Microsoft ratio must also be at least 2:1. As in, 1 ipod + 1 MacBook to 1 Microsoft pencil"

4:49:08 PM mitchrusk11: "If you own a Zune you are required to own 3 ipods to outweigh the Zune's crapyness"

4:49:35 PM mitchrusk11: "Shall you break any of these rules you will immediatly be stripped of your friend of Mitch rights"

4:50:20 PM mitchrusk11: "you will also loose your Mitch tech repair help (If I even felt like helping your sorry ass anyways...)"

I couldn't really find a better thread for this :-|

Wyatt
2007-05-06, 16:02
I couldn't really find a better thread for this :-|
:lol: Wow...

spikeh
2007-05-06, 16:35
I couldn't really find a better thread for this :-|

How is it possible that WR, of all people, can't spell "lose"?

Wyatt
2007-05-06, 17:22
How is it possible that WR, of all people, can't spell "lose"?
:lol: Someone once put a sign on a locker at the store where I used to work that read "Your a looser." (And yes, I know that's the wrong "your" -- that's how it was written on the sign.)

It seems nobody can spell it right. I don't get why people have such a hard time with it, either.

ironlung
2007-05-06, 18:21
I couldn't really find a better thread for this :-|

Absolutely hilarious. I really needed a good laugh as well.

atomicbartbeans
2007-05-06, 18:32
I have plenty more... but it's not exactly mind-safe.

Ah, what the hell:

11:18:39 PM rofltosh: you take all the keys off your apple pro keyboard one at a time and stick them up your butthole
11:18:53 PM rofltosh: then you poop them back out in coherent phrases
11:19:21 PM mitchrusk11: you shove your ibbok up your ass after it's been folding for 7.38 hours
11:19:41 PM mitchrusk11: you then leave it there until it starts to burn your prostate
11:20:05 PM mitchrusk11: at hich time you then proced to slowley eject the ibook onto a plate of spaggettie
11:20:26 PM rofltosh: XD
11:20:37 PM mitchrusk11: as your butt tissue becomes crispy from the excessive heat you spin the fans at full speed over the spaggettie
11:20:53 PM mitchrusk11: pools of butt fluid spill over it
11:21:00 PM mitchrusk11: you then eat it
11:21:08 PM mitchrusk11: by sticking it up your nose
11:21:18 PM mitchrusk11: and letting it slide down your throught
11:21:34 PM mitchrusk11: this gives you massive pleasure resulting in hard as rock boners
11:21:59 PM mitchrusk11: you take use of your boner by sticking it into boiling vegitable oile
11:22:10 PM mitchrusk11: deep frying it into a crispy state
11:22:30 PM mitchrusk11: the end
11:22:59 PM rofltosh: i'm still laughing :D
11:23:14 PM rofltosh: "pools of butt fluid"
11:23:39 PM mitchrusk11: that is your saturday night adventure
11:23:52 PM mitchrusk11: now, if you excuse me
11:24:03 PM mitchrusk11: my diggnation download is almost complete
11:24:10 PM rofltosh: haha okay
11:24:14 PM rofltosh: godspeed
11:24:16 PM mitchrusk11: and i belive you need to apply some vasaline to your anus hole.
11:24:44 PM rofltosh: i'm giggling like a schoolgirl
11:25:06 PM mitchrusk11: tend to your prostate burnes sally

Wyatt
2007-05-06, 19:30
"spaggettie"? ? ? ? "throught" ? ? ? ?

Mitch, you no longer get to correct any one. Ever. :lol:

11:20:53 PM mitchrusk11: pools of butt fluid spill over it
11:21:00 PM mitchrusk11: you then eat it
11:21:08 PM mitchrusk11: by sticking it up your nose
11:21:18 PM mitchrusk11: and letting it slide down your throught
11:21:34 PM mitchrusk11: this gives you massive pleasure resulting in hard as rock boners
11:21:59 PM mitchrusk11: you take use of your boner by sticking it into boiling vegitable oile
:err: :eek: :lol:

This deserves its own thread. I fear too few people will see it here :lol:

Windowsrookie
2007-05-06, 19:32
This was in AIM. And I may not have been completely aware of what I was doing at the time. :)

Wyatt
2007-05-06, 19:33
This was in AIM. And I may not have been completely aware of what I was doing at the time. :)
I wondered, but you're a bit young for that. Lay off the sauce/weed/yourdrugofchoice for a while. Your brain could use the recovery time. :lol:

tacvbo83
2007-05-07, 00:52
what the hell is all this!

washington mac user
2007-05-07, 03:21
Lol

Bryson
2007-05-07, 05:40
Like I said to ABB yesterday:
Random and disturbing.

iKickAss
2007-05-07, 16:50
In six months time you'll be even more glad you got a PS3. Developers aren't touching it's capabilities yet. It's gonna be taking shits on the CrapBox 2.

washington mac user
2007-05-07, 17:05
so, they will make the games look nicer doesn't mean they are going to be good games.

Kraetos
2007-05-07, 17:20
In six months time you'll be even more glad you got a PS3. Developers aren't touching it's capabilities yet. It's gonna be taking shits on the CrapBox 2.

so, they will make the games look nicer doesn't mean they are going to be good games.

Yep.

;)

I'll own all three, of course, but if I had to choose one, it'd most certainly be the Xbox 360, and nor do I think any of the upcoming PS3 titles are going to change that.

Windowsrookie
2007-05-07, 17:20
In six months time you'll be even more glad you got a PS3. Developers aren't touching it's capabilities yet. It's gonna be taking shits on the CrapBox 2.

Filthy spammer. :no:

Bryson
2007-05-07, 17:26
Shhh WR, he's taking the heat off you.





You damn pervert. Deep fry your cock? Nutcase. ;)

washington mac user
2007-05-07, 21:32
Will someone help me out?

I'm now debating on whether or not to get a 360 or upgrade my computer. Some of the games coming out for 360 are:
Too Human, GTA 4 (not exc), Mass Effect, Halo 3, Blue dragon, Lost Odyssey, Alan Wake, Eternal Sonata.

Some PC games coming out are: Crysis, Hellgate: London, half life 2, universe at war, Company of Heroes: opposing front, Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer, The witcher

Some games for both: Two worlds, Unreal Tournament 3, Bioshock.

Should I upgrade or go with the 360 this fall?

tacvbo83
2007-05-07, 21:33
What router can I get without that NAT crap. I can't sign on to Halo Live with some friends of mine becasue we both have NAT routers and therefore wont let us play toguether. What router should I get.

torifile
2007-05-07, 21:47
What router can I get without that NAT crap. I can't sign on to Halo Live with some friends of mine becasue we both have NAT routers and therefore wont let us play toguether. What router should I get.
You need to set up port forwarding to your 360 to get NAT working right.

tacvbo83
2007-05-07, 22:10
You need to set up port forwarding to your 360 to get NAT working right.



Can you please explain how I do that. I have a cheapy Comp USA router.

washington mac user
2007-05-07, 22:23
Comp USA... lol

Windowsrookie
2007-05-07, 22:24
You'll need to go into the routers OS.

http://www.noddegamra.co.uk/xbox360-nat_settings.htm

One of the first results on google. ;)

tacvbo83
2007-05-07, 22:39
ok thanks...but how do I open the porst etc etc...dont know how to do this on a Mac

torifile
2007-05-07, 22:41
What's your router's model number? Typically, there's a web interface to your router's settings. In there, there should be a place where you define what ports you want open and what IP address (e.g., the 360's IP) you want to handle traffic for that port.

tacvbo83
2007-05-07, 22:48
i think i kind of got it...just put the ip shown in that site as an address...worked at first but not the it wont go to the site...too busy or something

is that normal?

iKickAss
2007-05-08, 15:14
Filthy spammer. :no:

Chicks dig filthy spam.

I read somebody elses post putting the PS3 down so thought I'd just even things up.