View Single Post
kscherer
Which way is up?
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Boyzeee
 
2019-08-24, 11:03

And more:

4 simultaneous streams at up to 4k
7 simultaneous user profiles
Upcoming Star Wars TV series as a prequel to Rogue One, and The Mandalorian
$6.99/mo
$12.99/mo and you also get ESPN+ and Hulu [ad-supported]

Netflix:

4 simultaneous streams at up to 4k
5 simultaneous user profiles
All mentions of Star wars will go *poof*
$15.99/mo and there are zero sports

Disney's offering is going to be crushing! Netflix is spending billions trying to remain relevant, while Disney is going to strip away a ton of content from them (Disney's contract with Netflix ends at the end of this year).

The big properties in question are as follows:

Marvel Studios (The entire Marvel Comics universe, which is the biggest current money-maker in cinema)
Lucasfilm (mostly Star Wars and Indiana Jones, but amongst the biggest money makers in history)
20th Century Fox (What don't they own?)
ESPN Inc. (The biggest network of sports money on Earth)
A&E Networks (Not a lot there I care about, but they have lots of valuable properties to bring to bare)
Pixar (Don't even get me started on that money-making machine!)
National Geographic (Still around, still popular as hell)

20th Century Fox brings some titans to bare that will all be stripped from Netflix (if they are there at all). Following is a list of Fox big money-makers from Wikipedia:

1 Avatar $760,507,625
2 Titanic $659,363,944
3 Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace $474,544,677
4 Star Wars $460,998,007
5 Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith $380,270,577
6 Deadpool $363,070,709
7 Deadpool 2 $324,535,803
8 Star Wars: Episode II – Attack of the Clones $310,676,740
9 Return of the Jedi $309,306,177
10 Independence Day $306,169,268
11 The Empire Strikes Back $290,475,067
12 Home Alone $285,761,243
13 Night at the Museum $250,863,268
14 X-Men: The Last Stand $234,362,462
15 X-Men: Days of Future Past $233,921,534
16 Cast Away $233,632,142
17 The Martian $228,433,663
18 Logan $226,277,068
19 Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel $219,614,612
20 Mrs. Doubtfire $219,195,243
21 Alvin and the Chipmunks $217,326,974
22 Bohemian Rhapsody $216,428,042
23 X2: X-Men United $214,949,694
24 Dawn of the Planet of the Apes $208,545,589
25 Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs

Eventually, Netflix will be thrown to the wolves and left with nothing but their own, original content (which is likely why they are so furiously churning out [very good] shows and movies). Problem is, once you have seen most of that stuff, you really don't care to see it again*. However, those big-budget movies that Disney controls are watched over and over across many years and many generations. I've only seen one or two Netflix originals that mightmaybepossibly be worth watching again. That spells trouble, let me tell you, because Netflix will have to spend a ton of money always making new things, whilst Disney will have a titanic catalogue of classics to pull from, plus access to the theaters for major movie releases, any one of which can find that magical $200,000,000+ haul (and those numbers are just box office; they do not include streaming revenue, which is far more complex a number to sort).

We still don't know what Disney will shove into the game (although Star Wars, i.e. Lucasfilm, is confirmed), but what does Netflix have? I ask that question out of context though, because we probably all really like something from Netflix (I love The Kingdom) but are there enough loyal fans of that show to keep it going if Netflix loses most of its "rental" properties? I think not.

My gut tells me that Disney+ is going to wipe the slate clean and the entire system is going to have to start over. There are going to be a lot of losers, the largest of which will be Netflix, which as of December 31, 2019 will lose the following:

Star Wars (all episodes and all expanded universe modules)
Pixar (biggest of which is Toy Story)
Marvel (oh, no, not Iron Man! So much stuff in there it's scary)
Avatar
Titanic

I'm going to end the list right there because I just don't want to type any more. The list is too damn long!

Apple TV+? I'm rooting for Apple, but dang! Robo is right, though, it's going to have to be bundled with a bunch of stuff to even collect people's interest. In fact, the more I think about it, the more I realize Apple will not be getting my money. I'm not an Apple Music subscriber and won't be, so how are they going to get me to sign up? Fool thing is gonna have to be fooooooor FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

I mean, seriously!

*edit: Actually something just occured to me that Netflix is turing towards that may keep them relevant: Pornogrphy! Yep, mostly soft-core [Spartacus, anyone?] but also some hardcore. I clicked on a movie out of curiosity [Love, some French film] and the very first scene was a man and woman toying with each other's genitals, full view. A few scenes in: graphic sex—penetration and all. After I was caught off guard by Love—which I sorted out was rated MA (I had never bothered to look at ratings on Netflix, before)—I noticed that the "related categories" listed scores of MA films and TV "series" stuffed (pun intended) with either soft-core or hard-core pornography. I think this will be the line that Netflix gravitates towards because, well, sex sells!)

- AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :)
- Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9)

Last edited by kscherer : 2019-08-24 at 14:15.
  quote