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2020-02-03, 23:38

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Originally Posted by kscherer View Post
Tesla is the outlier in the market. They make two sedans—both 4-door—and both are very expensive. The Model S starts at $75,000, and the Model 3 pretends to start at $36,000 but is still in short supply. Compare that to Japanese and Korean sedans that start at around $15,000 (or even beleaguered Big 3 sedans that were in the same price ranges).

Tesla is still out of reach for most people. When they can get under $25,000 they will rule the world!

But, Tesla must be considered in the conversation. They do make sedans, and they also make SUV's (with the world's dumbest truck on the way, and which not sell well at all!)

The conversation is really more about the Big 3, who no longer know how to make competitive sedans.
What are you talking about?

Tesla has zero interest competing with 15k Korean sedans. Nor do most manufacturers. Nor do those make up a significant chunk of the market. Tesla isn’t out of touch for most people. The average new car price in the US in 2019 was 34,000. The average auto loan in the US is $30,000. Average loan length is 5.7 years. Average monthly payment is $500+ a month.

If 15k Korean sedans are the market you are in don’t mistake that for what the American marketplace is demanding and buying.

Top selling vehicle in America? Ford F-150. Average price of that Ford F-150? Over $46,000.


As for the cybertruck.... Elon said that expected demand is already meeting production capacity for 3-4 years for the cybertruck. 250k deposits in the first week, likely over half a million now. And it’s not going to sell? Tesla is projecting to easily hit 500,000 deliveries next year across all models. You sound like a Tesla short seller who has consistently been burned.
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