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Frank777
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Join Date: May 2004
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2021-01-12, 18:02

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Originally Posted by Matsu View Post
Further up thread there was some discussion about evangelicals' world view. Frank may be genuine, but that's not really how it's worked out in civic life, is it? Often, the right wing evangelical base is used to bully progressive policy from the agenda and retard the progress of civil rights, and of knowledge/data/evidence based policy dialogue, in favor of the same archaic polemical positions, which is especially ironic since their main guy, the Jesus of the Gospels, is a radical, a reformer, and basically a socialist.
Yes, the people who invented hospitals, shut down the trans-atlantic slave trade and even started Guinness to provide clean sources of nutrition are the bad guys. Progressives, who don't even understand where the Western concept of civil rights came from, are the good guys.

The worst Evangelical church, run by the most craven money-grubbing lunatic, still operates or networks into community supports like food and clothing banks, addiction recovery groups, crisis pregnancy centres, marital, post-marital, family and grief counselling, job finding helps and homelessness supports. And literally hundreds of other ministries in the community and around the world. That church on your block adds more to your standard of living in North America than you even know. And the Church works because those "same archaic polemical positions" are grounded in the Bible and Truth.

With regards to the idiotic "Jesus was a socialist" canard, an earnest internet search should be able to fix that kind of misinformation.
It's ground that's been well-covered.