[Dr. Bobsky]

Originally Posted by Frank777 Yes, the people who invented hospitals

Just wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_hospitals

Do you really believe the Romans and Greeks didn't treat their ill in centralised locations? What's wrong with your head? (Even this history is so euro-centric I suspect it's missing hospitals that existed in our oldest civilisations in Asia and Asia Minor)...

shut down the trans-atlantic slave trade

And started it too, and were defending it and segregation to this day! WOO free muslim black labor!

The worst Evangelical church, run by the most craven money-grubbing lunatic, still operates or networks into community supports like food and clothing banks, addiction recovery groups, crisis pregnancy centres, marital, post-marital, family and grief counselling, job finding helps and homelessness supports. And literally hundreds of other ministries in the community and around the world.

This is nonesense. There are 'churches' that absolutely don't do any of these things. And because of your fast and loose definition of evangelical church you will merely say they aren't *really* evangelical churches.

That church on your block adds more to your standard of living in North America than you even know. And the Church works because those "same archaic polemical positions" are grounded in the Bible and Truth.

Ah yes, Churches are good for the GDP. So are wars, but we tend to recognise their danger, unlike Churches. And 'Truth' with a capital T is not discovered in archaic texts, or deep in the flawed brain we develop.

With regards to the idiotic "Jesus was a socialist" canard, an earnest internet search should be able to fix that kind of misinformation. It's ground that's been well-covered.

Of course he wasn't a socialist. He wasn't even real. And yes, ground well covered.