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Actually, the "mp" did indeed imply multi-processor from the very start of the Antares rumors.
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1. Could a 970 MP really be put in a Powerbook??!! 2. Am I the only one that think the Low-Power 970 isn't coming anytime soon? I just think this because of the lack of any news about it, but hopefully I'm wrong... Morpheus, let's play some mind games |
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I'm sitting here watching Graphics and Media State of the Union from WWDC'04 and 34 mins into this session the topic is Core image. The presenter talks about Core Image as a "stream based processing model" and "mappable to GPUs, SMT CPUs and any other parallell architectures".
OK.. this got me going on several points: - Stream based processing model. Last I heard, this is how you describe the Cell and its APUs witch are called a "stream processor". - GPUs, CPUs and any other parallell architecture? Huh, what other parallell architecture might one have for rendering graphics if not the CPU or GPU? Core Image is certainly optimized for AltiVec, but isn't that part of the CPU? Again.. The APUs in Cell is not considered a part of the CPU but are co-processors, and is certainly some "other parallell architecture" - SMT CPU? Last I heard no CPU in any Mac to date have symmetric multi threading. Pentium4 have, POWER5 also, but AFAIK neither will ever run Tiger. Oh well.. this might be me just finding what I'm looking for.. |
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I've heard the big W is essentially tri P, Morpheus -- I think you know what that means.
What I don't know is why it is posted in this forum, my understanding is that Apple has nothing to do with this thing. Should I assume that since you mentioned it here that Apple is now involved? I can see why they might want it, but I thought that not everything in it is their desired flavor. I think the original P+x*S would be more up their alley. eh? |
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Ok. We have a three core Power processor, and a Power core with x stream processing units attached (which is what Cell is). So Apple is doing something with cell.
But then I know feck all about computer processors, although I do do the Telegraph crossword. Pip pip! |
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"What the grapevine now envisions is a mixed bag -- an entry-level system based on single and dual 2GHz PPC 970 processors, a mid-range machine based on the 2.5GHz 970FX, and a high-end machine with either two 2.8GHz 970GX's or a sole dual-core 2.8GHz 970MP." ...and this one too: "Oh, and "one last thing": according to reliable sources at ATi Technologies, Apple has bought a considerable volume of new 8X AGP graphics cards for OEM use including Radeon 9800s and X700s. This suggests PCI Express may have to wait for the next revision, because there has been nary a peep about PCI Express cards for Apple OEM.... " |
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My gut feeling tells me that we are more likely to see a minor PowerBook type revision first. We simply can't have PowerBooks with more base RAM than a G5! The 1.67 GHz 15" & 17" PB models also now offer a BTO ATI 9700 128MB graphics card capable of running the 30" display. So the Pro line has a bit of catching up to do. We can only hope that these two issues would be corrected very soon. Any speed bumps or price drops would also help to move the existing chassis configuration without the need for major re-tooling. Upgrading to 3 GHz, PCI-Express, SLI and Dual Core are far more complicated issues and those may have to wait till WWDC, MWSF and beyond. I can only hope that all would be included in any major revisions. Reality is that most of us are SO tired of waiting that we'll probably leap at any reasonable improvement. |
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Anyway I don't want to buy it until the summer, and they maybe announced in March (which I suspect) but will probably be shipping in June. |
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I wonder if the following is possible. Cell is indeed highly customizable, which makes it usable anywhere. Apple is not involved in the development because they have no resources, i.e. they have nothing to contribute to the project. Meanwhile, they develop software support for Cell, extend the OS, reimplement frameworks. When IBM is ready for mass production, here comes Apple with a huge order for customized Cell hardware. get you're self a nice lovely girl who love's you no matter what and she will learn you what sex actaully is and how even you can enjoy it (gar) |
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