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turtle
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2019-11-01, 13:37

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Now I need to move on from FitBit. I really don't want Google having all my data in one place.

I used FitBit for trackers and now I still use them for my scale. Granted, Google will buy every bit of that data as part of their acquisition so it isn't like I can hide it.

I'm going to have to find a new scale that syncs to my phone/Apple Health and see how to erase my data from FitBit if possible.
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2019-11-01, 14:24

Not sure why they bothered to buy IP from Pebble.

Hard to find the right niche between platform behemoth (Apple) and low-cost good-enough co (Xiaomi). They couldn't compete on price, nor on integration.

As for your scale, have you tried Withings?
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2019-11-01, 19:58

Glad I stopped using my Fitbit. Now, they are the new Nest: Just another data mine for Google. Uh, uh, no way! And I just bought me kid an Apple Watch to replace her Fitbit. Talk about good timing.

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2019-11-02, 08:21

I haven't tried the Withings scale. I actually bought the new Aria 2 less than a year ago. Sucks feeling like I have to throw $120 (or whatever I paid) out because another company bought out the one I trusted with my data.

Of course, if you think it is bad that Google bought FitBit, apparently Facebook tried first but Google doubled the bid price.

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2019-11-02, 11:46

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Of course, if you think it is bad that Google bought FitBit, apparently Facebook tried first but Google doubled the bid price.
Oh, the value of data.
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2019-11-03, 18:10

You think that's bad, just do some hunting on how much data mining modern connected cars are doing. I imagine Google is snagging that from any Android auto equipped car, even if you don't use it.

I thought about getting a Fitbit once or twice, and realized it was a waste of money, just like any other watch.
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2019-11-03, 20:27

Yeah, I used one for about a year, then gave up after the novelty wore off. I found myself getting up early, walking a bazillion miles to get "steps", and then crashing as the day wore on. Eventually, I found that I was getting pretty darn close to the "recommended steps" on any given day just by going about my normal routine, so the Fitbit lost its usefulness and I ditched it. I have never trusted Fitbit's security promises, and now I know why. They have lots of data to sell, and have no shame in doing so once the tide turns.

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2019-11-04, 15:25

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Glad I stopped using my Fitbit. Now, they are the new Nest: Just another data mine for Google. Uh, uh, no way! And I just bought me kid an Apple Watch to replace her Fitbit. Talk about good timing.
Ken - we’re in the same boat right now for our daughter. We were thinking about an Apple Watch, but heard it requires an iPhone and don’t want to provide an iPhone now. Is it possible for a child to use an Apple Watch without an iPhone?

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2019-11-04, 15:38

Well, technically yes. The Watch does require an iPhone for setup and syncing, but functions without the phone around. The problem you would bump into is that the text messaging, etc. are linked to that phone, so those options would all have to be disabled. Honestly, i don't think the Watch without the phone is entirely … right?

She would not be able to message, email, etc. The health bits are tied to the Health app in the iPhone. So it really wouldn't offer a lot of Watch features. However, the current Series 3 is down to $199, so they have gotten cheap. Not sure that fixes things, but …

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2019-11-04, 15:39

I feel similarly to the majority here with relation to data mining.

For the record, I enjoy wearing a mechanical watch so the Fitbit band form factor suits. I own an Apple Watch, but once I bought the Fitbit I stopped wearing the Apple Watch. Now, with the acquisition by Google, I’m ready to delete my account, like I did when Insta was bought by FB.

I’m just hoping the Apple Watch form factor evolves like the iPod, to eventually include a wrist band style.
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2019-11-04, 15:44

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Well, technically yes. The Watch does require an iPhone for setup and syncing, but functions without the phone around. The problem you would bump into is that the text messaging, etc. are linked to that phone, so those options would all have to be disabled. Honestly, i don't think the Watch without the phone is entirely … right?

She would not be able to message, email, etc. The health bits are tied to the Health app in the iPhone. So it really wouldn't offer a lot of Watch features. However, the current Series 3 is down to $199, so they have gotten cheap. Not sure that fixes things, but …
Yes, this is where we’re at.

The text messaging being tied to my wife’s phone is the deal breaker. We’ll keep investigating, but the irony is the day I was ready to jump off Fitbit, my daughter wants a wearable and would like to compete with Daddy.

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2019-11-04, 16:02

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Ken - we’re in the same boat right now for our daughter. We were thinking about an Apple Watch, but heard it requires an iPhone and don’t want to provide an iPhone now. Is it possible for a child to use an Apple Watch without an iPhone?
Apple Watch might one day be separated from the iPhone the same way the iPhone was separated from the Mac/PC in iOS 5, but today is not that day.

Virtually everything you do on the Watch is tied to the iPhone in some way.

That said, there are other options out there, especially if you only want to give her a fitness tracker.
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2019-11-05, 17:07

Thanks for the clarification chucker - I’m waiting for that day when the Apple Watch is either separated from the iPhone... and/or offered in a band type form factor.

We’re checking out other options, but it looks like she’ll end up with a Fitbit and we’ll set up a family account. It’s not ideal, as I don’t want my health data served to Google, but until Apple provides a solution that meets our needs, this will be the path.
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2019-11-10, 18:06

So it looks like if I want a WiFi scale I'll have to switch over to Withings. Thing is I'm not convinced they are a good option either. I have to sync my data over to them for it to go to my Apple Watch/HealthKit. Sure I can manually enter my data, but that would mean actually doing it. When getting up and going for the day it would get missed for certain more times than not.

Who owns Withings now?

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2019-11-11, 05:38

Withings was independent, then sold to Nokia, then became independent again.

(Nokia currently doesn't seem able or willing to run a consumer products division. They're basically only a network equipment / research company now. Nokia-branded phones are made under license.)
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2019-11-11, 19:51

I wonder how long they will stay that way until someone buys them again for their data.

For now, I'm going to buy one of their scales since I don't want FitBit giving my data to Google.

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2019-11-11, 19:56


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2019-11-12, 14:47

So I ordered a Withings scale in hope of being able to delete my FitBit data before it gets into the hands of Google.

Not sure who to give my Aria 2 too now either. Why would I want them to let Google own their data?

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2019-11-12, 14:51

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So I ordered a Withings scale in hope of being able to delete my FitBit data before it gets into the hands of Google.

Not sure who to give my Aria 2 too now either. Why would I want them to let Google own their data?
I'm a big fan of Withings stuff. I have been using their scale and their blood pressure monitor for a few years now.
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2019-11-13, 11:37

Thank you. I really hope they don't turn to the dark side.
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