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kscherer
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Boyzeee
 
2020-07-23, 16:02

We have a Pilot and love it. Very good cars and very reliable. Tow capacity is in the 3000lb range, so you should be good. Look for one with a tow package already installed.

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Join Date: Oct 2005
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2020-07-23, 19:02

My sisters family tows their tent trailer with a Pilot. The trailer they have is one from the early 2000s, so not as light as the modern ones. It’s okay, but real slow going on the big hills though. I think their Pilot is a 2009, seems like a good vehicle.
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Ryan
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Promise Land of Trustafarians
 
2020-07-24, 22:57

I found a 2006 Jeep Liberty for sale in the area that already has the tow package installed. 76k miles, $9900. Gonna try to check it out this weekend. Also looking at two 2014/15 Pilots for around $18k.

Fortunately I've know a reliable mechanic so hopefully I can get an inspection from them.

The Jeep may be older but it's also a better choice for getting into the backcountry. Not to mention saving eight grand sounds pretty good.
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2020-07-24, 23:08

Just watch out for stuff from Jeep, reliability is an issue. I think that’s more post 2007 model year though. There is a reason they are cheap compared to similar Honda’s and Toyota’s.
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Ryan
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2020-07-24, 23:21

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Just watch out for stuff from Jeep, reliability is an issue. I think that’s more post 2007 model year though. There is a reason they are cheap compared to similar Honda’s and Toyota’s.
Yeah, that's definitely a fear with a Jeep. I've been reading reports of people pushing the 2006 Liberty to 200k miles, so this model may be old enough to avoid Jeep's modern issues.

If I go for the Jeep I'll probably keep my current Honda Fit and limit the Jeep to camping trips.

Still kinda leaning towards the Pilot though. If I end up getting really into this maybe I upgrade to a new(ish) Toyota 4Runner down the road.

I'm also fighting my built-in aversion to buying cars. It's pretty deeply ingrained at this point.

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2020-07-25, 12:02

Buying a vehicle is not my favorite activity either, so I don't do it often. If I wanted something small I think I'd be more inclined to just get a camper van, rather than a small trailer, but they aren't cheap even on the used market.
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Ryan
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2020-07-25, 13:59

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Buying a vehicle is not my favorite activity either, so I don't do it often. If I wanted something small I think I'd be more inclined to just get a camper van, rather than a small trailer, but they aren't cheap even on the used market.
Indeed. Plus, you have to break camp to drive anywhere.
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2020-07-25, 16:51

Breaking camp has never bothered me, we have a motorhome. It's a bit of a hassle I suppose, but far less so than hooking up trailers and added driving issues that come along with them.
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Ryan
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2020-07-25, 17:55

Maybe I should rent a campervan to test this out rather than diving straight in to buying a car + trailer.
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2020-07-27, 14:08

If you get a chance try both and see what you are more comfortable driving. That can make a huge difference in the enjoyment of a holiday.
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Ryan
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2020-07-27, 18:16

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If you get a chance try both and see what you are more comfortable driving. That can make a huge difference in the enjoyment of a holiday.
That's a good idea. Just need to find a way to rent something I can tow with.
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Kickaha
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2020-07-27, 19:16

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Yeah, that's definitely a fear with a Jeep. I've been reading reports of people pushing the 2006 Liberty to 200k miles, so this model may be old enough to avoid Jeep's modern issues.
My '95 Cherokee Sport is juuuuuuust under 250k and still kicking. Needs a new throttle position sensor, but that's the first repair I've had to make since the brakes locked up and caught on fire on the interstate.

Good times.
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2020-07-27, 19:56

Sounds like a blast... I'm guessing it was either a master cylinder failure, or a problem with the ABS system?
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Kickaha
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2020-07-27, 22:15

No idea! Both front brakes locked up, brake specialist shop said they were too far destroyed to be able to tell what happened. Rest of system checked out fine.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That Jeep has been through hell and back. Tree landed on it in hurricane, bounced off of hood leaving a dent. Big chunk of concrete thrown by kids hit the hood, bounced, hit the top of windshield frame and bounced over top, left divots at each contact point. Brakes caught on fire coming down a pass in Utah. Went >1000mi without oil once on a cross country trip (oops). The front left fender got run *over* by a semi trailer, after it got caught on the rear driver door trim and dragged the Jeep through an intersection, and into a minivan.

It started life as a chop shop special, the front half is a '95, the rear half is a '96. It's been a zombie since day 1 and will. not. die.
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kscherer
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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2020-07-28, 10:40

Dang, Kick! Perhaps you should consider donating to a museum?
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Kickaha
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2020-07-28, 13:12

I'm sure my wife would enjoy having it out of the driveway. XD It's been sitting long enough that I had to remove a mouse nest from the air filter.
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kscherer
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2020-07-28, 14:02



Move it along, son! Move it along.
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2020-07-28, 14:43

It doesn’t take long to get critters. I joined family camping one weekend, drove up in my car, and I think on the Saturday something built a nest in the cabin air intake. Found tons of crap in there when I next cleaned the cabin air filter.
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kscherer
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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2020-07-28, 15:17

OIh, I'm telling you! Here, if you let your yard/car/house go unattended for anything more than a few weeks, the desert eats it! One season and the yard is gone, two and the house is cornered by weeds 4 feet high, 3 and you won't find your car.

A few years ago a family member died and the rest of the family asked me to remodel his dilapidated home. One night I was stepping out onto the back step with a shovel, walking like it was a walking stick. When I stepped off the step and stabbed the shovel into the weeds, it went *CLANK*! After some exploration, I found a 10x15 concrete patio beneath roughly 1 inch of composted weeds/grass. He never, ever mowed the lawn and the desert reclaimed it year after year. The weeds grew every spring, died each summer, fell over onto the concrete in the fall, and broke down during the winter. This went on for years until enough dead weeds had piled up that seeds could take root and grow over the concrete. 12 years. That was how long it took for the desert to *eat* a 150sf, six-inch slab of concrete!

Moral of the story: Leave your stuff out and the critters will consume it!

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Ryan
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2020-07-30, 09:48

I just reserved a converted camper van for two weeks this September to give this a try before I lay down the money to buy.

Thinking I'll head down towards the Collegiate Peaks, across Cottonwood Pass to Crested Butte, then over Kebler Pass to Paonia. Down through the Black Canyon of the Gunnison towards the Ridgway and Silverton for some time in the San Juans, then turn around and head back. The Grand Mesa should be beautiful that time of year with the fall colors, then meander through Aspen and Leadville back towards home.
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2020-07-30, 11:01

Outstanding! Sounds like a fun trip.
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