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While everyone is wondering about other apple products, I read off a rumour from a Taiwan apple forum. The basic idea is that a magazine stated, "In a room crowded with Japanese technicians and engineers, discussing about the new apple display....", and a special deal happens to take place in an apple reseller in Taiwan. The magazine said the new product will be possible announced in October. Anyone got any idea?
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As much as I would love to see a 17" ACD, I highly doubt it. And on those lines, Apple just refreshed their display line a little more than a year ago. The line is awesome and their is little else to do, other than continue to bring down the prices.
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While I'd like to think there's something new coming out for the displays this October, I have no idea how likely it is. However, there's a forum about a new technology (SED) over on AppleInsider that might be related:
SED - The next technology for HD displays? Now, it sounds great, and I'd love to see it in displays... but the chances that someone's got this stuff to market? Slim to less than none. I'll probably be checking back up on it in the next year or two, though. Because it'll basically be a CRT-quality display with the size and power benefits of an LCD. Now how awesome would that be? And hopefully this thread is safe, since I didn't see anything else related here on AN |
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Wiki that, with a link...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SED-tv Sounds interesting, but I have read two different places now that they are going to charge a premium because of the display quality being that much better and I have heard no talks about smaller screens with this technology just big ones. That said SED Inc. hasn't even developed a plan for releasing them in the states as of yet. Mile 1 |
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If that awesome 20" display (IMO, the perfect size/resolution for the kind of things I do and the way I work and play) hit $499...
I'd HAVE to buy. No, I don't really see this happening (perhaps $599?), but it's something nice to think about. |
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I hit up eBay, found a 20 incher of the pinstripe style. I got it for $407, then there was the converter for $50. Overall though, a steal and the display is great, I love it.
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I know Apple commands a price premium over Dells and the like, but if Apple matched HP's price before... Just remember how much the original 21" "Cinema" display was. Even around a year ago, the $799 display in question was $1,299. Do you really think it'll only get $100 cheaper? |
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Has Apple finally resolved that pink-hue issue which seemed to dog those new displays? And, just out of curiosity, why isn't the 20" model HD?
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I don't know what pricing is like on the 30" ACD to comment on a price reduction there. |
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The 20" and 23" continue to sell well, even with their current prices. I would expect them to drop a little more, but not much. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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I think they can get what they ask for the monitors... at least for now. It is sad that I can get 2 dell 24" after coupons and rebates for about $300 more than one apple 23".
For comparison: http://www.barefeats.com/lcd.html I wish the 30" would come down in price! I'd be all over that... I've been looking at a panasonic commercial 50" plasma for my home theater... it's around 3k... seems odd that the 30" wouldn't come down. The really sad part is the Apple 20" and the Dell 20" have the same lcd screen. I've been into apple since before it was kewl... paying the premium prices... but there is a common sense thing... and if you say it's the design of the apple lcd that is worth the price... maybe??? I'd rather have more viewable space for the money! |
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Well, namachtag, you're comparing a plasma TV to an LCD screen. LCDs cost more, which is why only small flat-panel televisions usually use LCDs, while the larger ones use plasma. There's some large LCD TVs, but they're really expensive.
Moving away from the speculation on a price drop, let's explore the other side of the equation for a minute. Does anyone think that Apple's displays will get any bigger? The 21" was huge when it first came out, the 23" was even huger, and then it jumped to 30" - that's massive. 30" is larger than many companies even offer, and it is definitely much larger than most monitors. Will Apple ever come out with something bigger? I wouldn't think so, but then again, I think I doubted we'd ever see an Apple screen bigger than 23", so... |
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I've got a Sharp that I love. It's a 19" and I got it for $500 two years ago. Runs great, never has a problem.
I just bought my mominlaw a beautiful 17" screen for $150 at Fry's. Apple's displays are overpriced. I'm not saying they should get into the bargain market, but there's no way I could justify $800 for a 20-inch screen. And yes, I've used ACDs, and yes, they're very nice. But not THAT nice. |
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Roboman..."Well, namachtag, you're comparing a plasma TV to an LCD screen. LCDs cost more, which is why only small flat-panel televisions usually use LCDs, while the larger ones use plasma. There's some large LCD TVs, but they're really expensive."
I know the LCD/Plasma size/price differences...I was making the point that every flat-panel type no matter what it is has come down in price, TV's esp. All prices are falling and apple has little price drops.... |
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The costs of ensuring that such a panel is free of pixel defects (or just a handful) is much higher - thus the discrepancy in price between HD LCD TVs and the 30" ACD. Also, it's economies of scale... many companies produce HD LCD TVs, so price comes down as quantity of fabricated LCD screens increases. As Roboman pointed out, there's no competition using similar panels to the 30" ACD. |
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every flat-panel type no matter what it is has come down in price......
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The 20" has a resolution of "1680 x 1050 optimal resolution". This monitor is more than capable of displaying HD content in 720p (1280X720). What is very scary to me is HD-TV's in the 30"+ range that can't show true 1080i/p resolutions and actually have a lower resolution than Apple's 20". Mile 1 |
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I know what you mean, the store by me had a refreshed 20" for $499 the other week and my credit card company is thanking me right now. |
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Is that a widescreen and what is the native resolution? |
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I have both the Apple 20 and the Dell 20 and other than the cases, there appears to be no difference. If I had to spend my own money it would be on the Dell to save a few bucks.
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The 23" has a horrible color/viewing angle problem. It needs complete redesign.
The 20" is obviously the most competetive display Apple has but needs a price drop. I wonder if the new 23"-24" are eating into 30" ACD sales. If so, then a price drop is in order; otherwise the 30" is fine till there is direct competition out. On the next iteration of the basic display design they could put in *easy* pivoting. My Dell has pivot but I'm not using it because it is too difficult, with all the wiring restricting the display movement. Apple has a track record for cleaning things up. If someone can make it work well, it's them. They must have a good reason for not having a 17" or equivalent display in the lineup. My guess is everyone already has at least that. |
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Because it can't do 1080i or 1080p at native, while both the 23" and 30" can.
While TV manufacturers call a 720p native set HD, I guess Apple is being slightly more intellectually honest...? |
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I would certainly like to see an update to the Apple LCD. From what I've heard the more important thing may be the proposed price decrease. My wife is more that willing for a purchase, usually it's me that holds back.
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