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HOM · 2005-01-25, 00:00

This isn't a random thing tonight. It's happened to me at least a dozen times. This is just the latest incarnation.

Brad · 2005-01-25, 00:05

Your computer = teh suck?

It looks like our CSS isn't loading in that image. I have no idea why. Nothing has changed on our end in several weeks and I never experience that.

The next time that happens, hit cmd-opt-A and see if there are any errors or incomplete transfers.

Paul · 2005-01-25, 00:07

yeah, I have been getting page loads like that intermittently as well... possible regional glitch?!?

I just now completely cleaned safari of all 3rd party additions and cache files and I haven't seen anything weird since--I thought that was the culprit. But if HOM is seeing this behavior has well... just a coincidence?

scratt · 2005-01-25, 00:18

Sounds like a cache problem somewhere outside of your locations...
Try the site through a proxy server a long way away to check.

In Thailand some of our international sites are held on a local cache at the ISP and we can't even get up to date news without going through a proxxy in the US, or UK!!

Makes web dev. very hard here as you cannot see changes when you upload them internationally for up to a day!!!

Brad · 2005-01-25, 00:27

One thing worth noting that I just remembered is that Safari apparently sometimes refuses to cache our CSS page. I don't know why; it's probably just a Safari bug because we're not doing anything out of the ordinary.

I'm going to modify our htaccess file to try to force a later expire time on our CSS files.

Brad · 2005-01-25, 00:41

Apparently Apache is set up on this server so we can't change the expires parameters in our .htaccess files.

*shrug*

usurp · 2005-01-25, 01:04

it happens to me sometimes. its when the connection on my side becomes really slow or fucks up. If you reload it should work fine.

IonYz · 2005-01-25, 01:15

Looking fine here (using OmniWeb). But I have similar problems when making changes to our company site from home. Either Safari is messing with my CSS or the squid proxy dealy at work is pulling some mojo.

torifile · 2005-01-25, 07:26

I had the same problem yesterday. But the intarweb was slow for me all day. :/

LoCash · 2005-01-25, 10:14

Actually, the interesting thing in the screenshot above is that main.css is loading, but the forum specific stylesheet is not.

Brad · 2005-01-25, 12:53

Good observation, LoCash.

Curiously enough, I experienced this problem this morning too. So, I'll definitely look into the forum stylesheet on Friday and try to pinpoint any weirdness.

Paul · 2005-01-25, 13:05

I see you use the javascript confirmation for PMs there brad... any chance that could be looked at as well

I hate that popup that comes up after every sent message! Ok Cancel? FUCK YOU!

Maciej · 2005-01-25, 14:18

This definitely wasn't happening to me before yesterday. Now its happening about every other pageload. :'(

Paul · 2005-01-25, 16:01

In the Apple Store Roosevelt Field....

So its definitely not a problem with software... unless it is a serious bug in Safari...

alcimedes · 2005-01-25, 16:04

i can tell you i've never seen this problem once in Firefox.

709 · 2005-01-25, 16:32

Nor in Camino.

nomorewindows · 2005-01-25, 17:10

This has happened to me a few times the last couple of days, but I just reload and it goes away. I thought y'all didn't like me or something...

thuh Freak · 2005-01-25, 17:11

i've never seen the problem with firefox on windows, GNU/Linux or Mac OS X. i also use safari sometimes on macosx, and i've never seen it there neither.

Brad · 2005-01-25, 17:12

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Originally Posted by alcimedes

i can tell you i've never seen this problem once in Firefox.

Right. As I mentioned above, I believe it's a problem with Safari specifically not keeping the file cached and, for some reason, for fetching it properly.

nomorewindows · 2005-01-25, 17:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad

Right. As I mentioned above, I believe it's a problem with Safari specifically not keeping the file cached and, for some reason, for fetching it properly.

Hmmm. I've been thinking of trying Camino. This might push me in that direction, 'cause this is butt-ugly.

torifile · 2005-01-25, 20:51

If I'm not mistaken, HOM's screenshot up above is using FF.

Brad · 2005-01-25, 21:09

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Originally Posted by nomorewindows

Hmmm. I've been thinking of trying Camino. This might push me in that direction, 'cause this is butt-ugly.

Are you really experiencing it that often?

I do nearly all of my browsing in Safari and I've only seen this happen once.

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Originally Posted by torifile

If I'm not mistaken, HOM's screenshot up above is using FF.

Nope, that's just Safari in Aqua instead of metal. See the joined buttons, the SnapBack button, and the resize nub for the Google bar?

torifile · 2005-01-25, 21:15

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Originally Posted by Brad

Nope, that's just Safari in Aqua instead of metal. See the joined buttons, the SnapBack button, and the resize nub for the Google bar?

Well, I'll be!

I didn't even know you could add buttons to the toolbar! I saw the home and resize buttons and thought, "That must be firefox because you don't get those buttons in Safari." Learn something new everyday....

Brad · 2005-01-25, 21:17

Yeah, hit the View menu to toggle buttons. Not very intuitive, huh? Fortunately, Safari 2.0 should finally bring us a standard customizable toolbar.

LudwigVan · 2005-01-25, 22:49

Just for the record, the "blackout" issue occurred just now for me on IE 6 (Windows 2000).

Brad · 2005-01-25, 22:50

It just happened to you a few minutes ago because you caught it as I was swapping files.

I split up the mammoth forums.aipro.css file into two smaller files. Maybe that'll help a bit... it's still pretty odd.

To anyone who has been experiencing this glitch, please post here again if you are still experiencing problems now.

johnq · 2005-01-25, 23:01

I did 30 seconds ago. But it's normal now.

LudwigVan · 2005-01-25, 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad

It just happened to you a few minutes ago because you caught it as I was swapping files.

You wily bastard!

(j/k)

Thanks for letting me (us) know. I'll keep my eyes posted for any future anamolies.

torifile · 2005-01-25, 23:28

Got some funky border things going on. Right now, there the left and right borders aren't around the "main" part of the page. Earlier the main part of the page was the width of the window rather than the 80-90% it usually is.

torifile · 2005-01-25, 23:31

What it's been looking like recently.

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Brad Selfish Heathen administrator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Zone of Pain	2005-01-25, 00:41 Apparently Apache is set up on this server so we can't change the expires parameters in our .htaccess files. shrug
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usurp High Monarch of MacDebate Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kuwait	2005-01-25, 01:04 it happens to me sometimes. its when the connection on my side becomes really slow or fucks up. If you reload it should work fine.
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IonYz Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Chicagoland	2005-01-25, 01:15 Looking fine here (using OmniWeb). But I have similar problems when making changes to our company site from home. Either Safari is messing with my CSS or the squid proxy dealy at work is pulling some mojo. /* styling for my posts */ .intelligence {display: none;}
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torifile Less than Stellar Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Durham, NC	2005-01-25, 07:26 I had the same problem yesterday. But the intarweb was slow for me all day. :/
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LoCash Rest In Peace administrator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Atlanta	2005-01-25, 10:14 Actually, the interesting thing in the screenshot above is that main.css is loading, but the forum specific stylesheet is not.
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Paul Veteran Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: New York City	2005-01-25, 13:05 I see you use the javascript confirmation for PMs there brad... any chance that could be looked at as well I hate that popup that comes up after every sent message! Ok Cancel? FUCK YOU! 1215/234215 (top .51875%) People really have got to stop thinking there is only one operating system, one economic system, one religion, and one business model. -EvilTwinSkippy (/.)
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Maciej M AH - ch ain saw Join Date: May 2004	2005-01-25, 14:18 This definitely wasn't happening to me before yesterday. Now its happening about every other pageload. :'(
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Paul Veteran Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: New York City	2005-01-25, 16:01 In the Apple Store Roosevelt Field.... So its definitely not a problem with software... unless it is a serious bug in Safari... 1215/234215 (top .51875%) People really have got to stop thinking there is only one operating system, one economic system, one religion, and one business model. -EvilTwinSkippy (/.)
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alcimedes I shot the sherrif. administrator Join Date: May 2004	2005-01-25, 16:04 i can tell you i've never seen this problem once in Firefox.
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709 ¡Damned! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Purgatory	2005-01-25, 16:32 Nor in Camino.
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nomorewindows Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Rockie Mountains	2005-01-25, 17:10 This has happened to me a few times the last couple of days, but I just reload and it goes away. I thought y'all didn't like me or something... "A synonym is a word you use when you can't spell the other." Baltasar Gracian
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thuh Freak Finally broke the seal Join Date: May 2004	2005-01-25, 17:11 i've never seen the problem with firefox on windows, GNU/Linux or Mac OS X. i also use safari sometimes on macosx, and i've never seen it there neither.
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torifile Less than Stellar Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Durham, NC	2005-01-25, 20:51 If I'm not mistaken, HOM's screenshot up above is using FF.
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Brad Selfish Heathen administrator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Zone of Pain	2005-01-25, 21:17 Yeah, hit the View menu to toggle buttons. Not very intuitive, huh? Fortunately, Safari 2.0 should finally bring us a standard customizable toolbar.
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LudwigVan Veteran Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Minnesota	2005-01-25, 22:49 Just for the record, the "blackout" issue occurred just now for me on IE 6 (Windows 2000).
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johnq Multi-touch Piñata Join Date: May 2004	2005-01-25, 23:01 I did 30 seconds ago. But it's normal now.
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torifile Less than Stellar Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Durham, NC	2005-01-25, 23:28 Got some funky border things going on. Right now, there the left and right borders aren't around the "main" part of the page. Earlier the main part of the page was the width of the window rather than the 80-90% it usually is.
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torifile Less than Stellar Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Durham, NC	2005-01-25, 23:31 What it's been looking like recently.
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