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Bryson
Rocket Surgeon
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Whitby
 
2020-08-25, 16:05

I worked at home before, so not that much difference for me. Well, except my wife and kid are here too. Usually it's just me during the day.

Most of my friends, however, work in live performance and so they're in the middle of what's going to be an involuntary year off. That sucks. At least we're in Canada where they're getting CERB. ($2k/month)
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Anonymous Coward
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Join Date: May 2004
 
2020-08-27, 02:04

Here in the 90% Democratic, no Trump allowed part, science-based of California, not much seems to have changed. I don't get out much, but when I drive around (mostly to feed the chickens, water the garden, dog-sit or house-sit at my sister's house in the southern San Francisco Bay Area) traffic is just as heavy as pre-COVID (except for maybe the first few weeks of the "shelter-in-place" order), the only exception being that rush hour traffic has disappeared (or did, until recently). I read about how no one cares in Florida, but I don't see how the beaches there could be any more crowded than the beaches, lakes, and other recreation areas here.

I take advantage of being retired from the military to only shop at military facilities. They are not stocked any more than regular grocery stores, but there are fewer people around.

Gardening is not new for me, but in the past I grew seeds mostly to plant at my relatives' houses. Now I grow vegetables in those big COSTCO/Home Depot 27 gallon bins. Plants don't grow as well there as in the ground, but I'm still in California drought mode and the yard is covered with landscape cloth.

If I had no family obligations, I would stay home much more than I do, but as it is, I am out more than I am comfortable with, but it seems that most others are trying to get back to "normal". Given that there is almost no communication from the governor or local leaders, I suppose it is not surprising that people are starting to test the boundaries. Quite different from the national leadership that has no filter, no self-restraint, and says the first thing that comes to mind, but still ineffective.
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drewprops
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Atlanta
 
2020-08-27, 08:03

I am "in jail" with my mom, who will turn 90 soon. Thankfully, I can work from home. The most human contact I have is during pick ups of food from restaurants. Our little church can hold 120-130 people but on any given Sunday only draws 12 people. It was down until late June. When it came back I had a front row seat to people who don't understand how to be safe. Lots of improper mask use, which turned out to be Kabuki theater anyway since they would all go out to eat together afterwards (including the pastor, who didn't get it anymore than they did). When I notified the congregation that the Conference had put out a call for churches in counties experiencing the summer surge to return to quarantine, they didn't do anything. Kept going. I wasn't willing to make mom stop going, but we would arrive early enough to sit well away from others. The Superintendent finally found out that we were still meeting (the only church in his district to do so) and thankfully put pressure on our pastor to shut down again.

The thing I have learned during this time is that people are simply not engineered for pandemics. Unless you are a hypochondriac, or super good at THE FLOOR IS LAVA, you're going to do something that defies a strict protocol. I'm a stickler for staying the heck away from people and find myself taking chances that make me feel uncomfortable.

I learned early on that it isn't useful to bitch at other people. People are going to do what they want. I just have to take care of me and mine. If I was on my own I might very well take more chances and go out to eat at restaurants and meet up with my friends in person.

There are at least three components to this pandemic: physical health, financial health, and mental health. The first two are often pitted against each other, debilitating the third.

People in the film industry have been VERY OUT OF WORK and it's been rough because the state was overwhelmed by the volume of unemployment claims. Some have yet to receive the first dollar of assistance. Things are beginning to come back slowly, and strangely, with levels of access, pods, multiple tests throughout the week. Such a strange new world.

I'm programming the pirate pubcrawl to be virtual this year, which should be interesting.


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PB PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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2020-08-27, 09:20

Speaking of pirates, I was starting to think about what’s going to happen at Halloween this year. You know that stubborn people are still going to send the kids out door to door. My personal stance is, nope not this year, since people tend to drive their kids into the middle to upper class neighbourhoods. I just don’t see a safe way of doing it, without going overboard. People might just have to settle for trick or treat at home.
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Ryan
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Join Date: May 2004
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2020-08-27, 10:07

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The thing I have learned during this time is that people are simply not engineered for pandemics. Unless you are a hypochondriac, or super good at THE FLOOR IS LAVA, you're going to do something that defies a strict protocol. I'm a stickler for staying the heck away from people and find myself taking chances that make me feel uncomfortable.

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Dr. Bobsky
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Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: UK's most densely packed city. It's not London...
 
2020-08-27, 17:37

I'm not really sure that's true. A lot of scientists are trained towards an intuition about risky behaviors when it comes to spreading microbial and viral contaminants. The public can learn...
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Anonymous Coward
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2020-08-28, 02:19

I must add that I was incorrect about the California governor. While helping my aunt with automobile and computer stuff, she mentioned that the governor has a daily briefing that she watches. (Although, when she tried to find it, there did not seem to be a briefing today.) What is curious is that supposedly it is broadcast on the FOX affiliate, and I thought that (at least around this area) FOX is considered to be the Republican mouthpiece not to be trusted. I always used to listen mainly to the CBS radio affiliate (Walter Cronkite and all that) and their website doesn't say anything about daily briefings. But if it is true about frequent communications, then the situation is much worse since it seems he is being ignored. The San Francisco Bay Area was one of the first to mandate a "shelter-in-place" and seemed on the way to getting control of the situation, but since then, California has risen to the highest case load, keeping ahead of Texas and Florida. And we are still relaxing restrictions. But, I would not be surprised if Governor Newsom is not eventually a Democratic presidential candidate, joining his former District Attorney as mayor and Attorney General as governor (Kamala Harris).

I just checked the local FOX website, and it does not mention anything about daily briefings, so I guess it is only on the television. I rarely watch broadcast television, and never in the middle of the day, and wonder how well known such briefings are.

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Dr. Bobsky
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Join Date: Feb 2015
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2020-09-09, 17:35

How anyone still supports world leaders who were informed and knew the risks of this disease well before the public, and continued to minimize these risks over the last nine months, just boggles my mind. In the US alone, over 190,000 dead, for what? A bit of braggadocio? 190,000 lives.
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Brad
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Zone of Pain
 
2020-09-09, 19:32

We're up to at least seventy 9/11s at this point. Maybe we should throw a party and set off some firecrackers in the woods at 100! 🔥

I've been trying to use that 9/11s metric since at least March. For a while I switched to "your entire home town/city of X wiped out" as a metric, but that was too hard to keep in my head.

I haven't been around the forums much this year, but I guess it's not too late to chime in with my own depressing anecdotes.

The second week of March, shortly after the US case count broke 1000, my employer (Red Hat) announced that effective immediately all employees would work remotely/from home. The following day, all US offices were closed to anyone that who didn't have business-critical on-site work like manning a data center. By that point, a few of my friends/coworkers had already started WFH, one of whom I think had switched to hoarder mode for about a week. We all, at least the people in my close circles, started taking this growing Covid thing very seriously very quickly. I've been working from home ever since. I only go out to pick up groceries, and I always try to do that during unusual low-traffic times to minimize exposure. Early or mid morning Mondays seem to be the best for avoiding filthy humans.

I have several conditions that put me at high risk for severe complications or death of I were to be infected. I have the usual asthma and slew of allergies to airborne particulates, of course, but I also have several other auto-immune conditions including a sometimes dangerously low leukocyte (white blood cell) count (aka "leukopenia"). I went through a scary phase seeing a hematologist-oncologist over the previous year or two ending last autumn. No official diagnosis of the big C, but I'm to keep a close eye on things. Did I talk about that here? I don't think I did. My wife and I kept that mostly to ourselves.

I was fortunate to start this catastrophe with a mostly-full box of real 3M N95 masks; I was lucky to have these leftover from some painting work I did more than a year ago. Whenever I need to go out (ditto for my wife), I put on my well-fitted N95 mask and wear mechanics gloves to make sure I don't accidentally touch something contaminated and then my face and usually I wear a hat and long-sleeved buttoned shirt that I can toss aside when I return. Upon removing the mask back at home, I often look like I've spent all night as a hospital RN in triage; a tight well-fitting mask not only passes the pressure check but also tends to leave a ring around your face where it makes contact.

Whenever we have a package delivered, which like many people is more frequent nowadays, we bring it inside off the porch but leave it on the floor by the door to "decontaminate" for a couple days. I know the chance of transmission from delivery guy to box to us is probably pretty low, but I'd rather not take the chance.

My inner introvert has mostly been fine with staying at home all of the time now. I do miss my coworker friends, but I think they share a similar mindset of gladly suffering in isolation today knowing that it means maybe some time next year we can meet up again.

Suddenly stopping eating out, even if it's just usually the office cafeteria and snacks and coffee dispensers, had an almost immediate effect on my weight. When I realized I was approaching an unhealthy BMI a couple months ago, I took some deliberate steps to plan my meals and eat more. I know that's a problem a lot of Americans probably wish they had, but I'll just say that forcing yourself to gain weight is about as fun as forcing yourself to lose it.



Oh yeah… and a week ago I had a nosebleed that, being the third in three days and refusing to stop fowing after two hours of constant pinching, was continuing to back-wash so much down my throat that I was starting to choke and gurgle and gag. At that point I gave up and let my wife drive me to the ER. At 3am on a Sunday night. The good news there is that despite the general cesspools that hospitals can be, my understanding is that ER patients like me are treated in a completely different opposite end of the hospital from the Covid cases. They didn't test me for Covid. I wasn't showing any signs. I just have awful luck.

Health sucks.

Fuck. I lost my train of thought.

Oh yeah, Covid stuff. Several months ago a friend/colleague of my wife was diagnosed with Covid. They volunteered at our local arboretum for years. She died from Covid. Just another statistic at this point. I don't want to be another statistic. I WANT TO GET OFF MR. BONES' WILD RIDE.

Also, as far as we're concerned, this year's Halloween is cancelled, and that's more than a little heart-breaking for us because we love the season and love going over-the-top with costumes. I should dig up some photos to share somewhere from my last couple of years. Last year, I won the Red Hat company costume contest and shared a conversation and handshake on-stage with our CEO. It was pretty cool.

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drewprops
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Join Date: May 2004
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2020-09-10, 02:52

Thanks for the update Brad. We all have our seasons here. A lot to unpack from your update. It's late/early here now. I'll do an update of my own later.


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