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2021-05-09, 05:04

Congrats turtle - what a tremendous effort. Big congrats!
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turtle
Lord of the Rant.
Formerly turtle2472
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Upstate South Carolina
 
2021-06-01, 15:15

I never did thank you guys but truly, thank you! It was not easy but I have been maintaining my "weight" while still shrinking. I've had to start wearing a belt again. Funny enough, it is a belt I wore when I was in my 20's. It is a special belt (buckle) from when I was an active volunteer fireman. It feels so good to fit in this belt again. I also had to switch my Watch band to the S/M strap because the M/L doesn't fit anymore!

I've upped my consumption to around 2200 a day average and have maintained right at 162 with ups and downs but trending at that. My pants are getting more and more loose and my tone is getting sharper. The veins in my arms are unreal at this point to me! I don't know that I've ever had visible veins like this. I'm not devoid of fat, and my biceps only measure 13.5" on flex but the veins when working out just blow my mind. I had to get measure by Mrs T because she was buying me a new shirt for outdoor work. I was also shocked to read my other measurements:
Neck: 15.5"
Chest: 43"
Waist (at belly button): 28.5"



I still have more fat to burn and will likely begin implementing 500 calorie fasting (intermittent) again on my strength days with that being all protein. For now though, it is nice to feel like I can eat all I want and still be burning fat!

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2021-06-01, 15:20

Oh, I also have to throw out there that Mrs T hit her intermediate weightless goal too! I'm going to not give specifics other than to say she was able to enjoy this long weekend without having to watch what she ate really. She is back to cutting again to get down where she wants to be, but I'm really proud of what she's accomplished too!

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kscherer
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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2021-06-01, 15:27

I've been alternating 4-week cycles of cutting/bulking and maintaining 175-180. I'm with you on the veins, though. When I'm lifting, those suckers pop! Never had that before.

I think I'm going to focus mostly on bulking until September, and then do a hard cut before I go on vacation first of October. Then bulk again through the fall and do a soft-cut headed into next spring and summer. Since my goal is muscle mass, I have a long road to travel and have decided to stay on that road. My goals remain the same:

1) Bench 200 pounds (I'm up to 135 from 75 6 months ago)
2) Do 10 unassisted pull-ups (I am now doing pull-ups with a band-assist)
3) Find my six-pack (It is starting to press out through my belly fat)
4) Look good in the mirror

And all of this needs to happen in a sustainable manner, so developing good eating habits, sleep habits, and workout habits is key. And that takes time.

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kscherer
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2021-06-01, 15:28

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Oh, I also have to throw out there that Mrs T hit her intermediate weightless goal too! I'm going to not give specifics other than to say she was able to enjoy this long weekend without having to watch what she ate really. She is back to cutting again to get down where she wants to be, but I'm really proud of what she's accomplished too!
This is very good news. Congratulate her for us.
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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2021-06-15, 15:28

I started cutting again. I did a great job maintaining ~162. Now I'm cutting down to 150. I'll be willing to stop short if I get rid of the fat but I still have a healthy coating on my gut and back of my arms.

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kscherer
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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2021-06-15, 15:37

I'm bulking through July, and then cutting hard August/September before I go on vacation end of September.

I haven't weighed in a while, and am focusing on how I fit in my clothes. So far, all is good, and the extra weight I seem to be gaining is all muscle, or mostly.

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kscherer
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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2021-06-22, 15:15

** Caution: Rant ahead **

Well, poop!

So, when I first started doing this I told myself there's no way I'll join a gym. Too many show-offs, ego-lifters, and do-gooders looking down their noses at you. Then, I joined a gym because I wanted access to equipment I needed but couldn't afford. All was going well, with no negative interactions with people.

So, I'm working on the incline bench doing reverse-loaded crunches (50 pounds carried on the way down, you strain against the weight and try to lower yourself gently to the bench, which makes your abs feel like they're in a paper shredder). Anyway, it's not a common exercise, because most people show up and do the same things over and over and over and … bench press, biceps curls, bench press, biceps curls.

So, this lady and her giant boyfriend are next to me on the back-lift bench and I hear him whisper, "look at this guy. What an idiot." Or something to that effect. And she says, "Yeah, I know," and then something unintelligible. They clearly have no idea what I'm doing, but being "experts" have decided that I'm doing it wrong.



I see people every day who are doing their exercises wrong, or ego-lifting, or straining themselves to look good for whoever, but I say nothing. To each their own. That's how I work at the gym. I do my thing, you do yours.

But!

It did make me want to work harder, so I've decided to start my cut now instead of waiting for August. That means it's back to suffering for the next 6-8 weeks while I try to burn off the last useless 10 to 15 pounds of body fat I'm carrying around. Meanwhile, the giant boyfriend still needs to drop 30 pounds.

So, moral of the story: Mock me if you want, because that's just gonna make me press harder.

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turtle
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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2021-06-22, 21:42

The military gyms were worse. There the pressure to be a gym rat was greater than anything else. I mean, if you were active duty but not working out drinking out of gallon jugs you sucked.

I don't envision I'll ever join a gym. Maybe buy a new home gym machine but that is about it.

I'm really hating the cut session. My body is not enjoying this cutting at all. I'm losing weight, but not as fast as I want and I'm so ready to be done with this. I'm still in the 150's again, but only just barely. Still, less than I've weighed in 25 years at least.

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kscherer
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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2021-06-23, 10:40

Yeah, I hear you, Tony. The hardest thing for me is date-night (which is tonight this week), because I fast on that day so I can enjoy a nice meal with my wife. So, I go to the gym at 6:30, work out like hells-bells for an hour, and then don't eat for 12 hours.



And then I have to contend with the weekends, when the family wants to bake this and deep-fry that. There's a lot of pressure to "eat what's for dinner", but it's usually not in line with my diet. I have to train myself to eat less on the weekends, but then so much food winds up going to waste, and that makes me not only mad, but feel guilty. There's just too much damn food in this country!

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turtle
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2021-06-23, 16:03

We are at the point where my kids eat differently than Mrs T and I. They aren't on a limited diet like we are so we always end up eating separately.

We don't have waste, but we are also not doing the big family meal right now.

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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Yesterday, 10:31

So I finally got an Apple Watch a couple of weeks ago. I particularly like that the "goals" are based on Calories burned rather than "Steps" like my old Fitbit - it would frequently nag me despite me doing multiple hours of cycling.

The Apple Watch comes with a free trial of Fitness+, which I really wanted to like...but...unfortunately, it appears that all fitness instructors, of which I've tried a few, grate on me. I don't think it's for me.
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kscherer
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Yesterday, 11:06

I have no desire for choreographed TV "fitness" instructors, since they mostly remind me of those '70's-era fitness tapes where some pretty girls in tights gyrated for the camera for hours on end, with little old men hoping their wives would watch one of them and suddenly be a pole-dancer.

I can't stand them. Physically fit "health" instructors (for me that means well-built men who have climbed around in that space and have something to teach me) are my go-to.

Find some good YouTube folks (I watch Max Posternak of Gravity Transformations; He's sharp, fit, and doesn't use "bro science"), learn what your body needs, and do a lot of it! Proper diet, proper weight training, proper cardio. Learn to do it right, and then focus on small daily goals, mid-term weekly goals, and long-term health goals. It doesn't happen overnight, nor does it happen in 6 months. It takes years. Unfortunately I only learned this last year, so I have a very long ways to go. I don't suspect I will reach my long-term goals for at least another two years*, especially considering I am still—over a year later—struggling to meet even my daily goals.

Bad habits take minutes, good habits take years. It's a lot of work, especially in the mind.

* Bench 200lbs 10x3; Perform 10 pull-ups 10x3; Build 6-pack abs; Consume a consistent 1700-calorie maintenance diet; Get my family onboard.

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Yesterday, 15:00

I think Fitness+ isn't even available here.

I get that Apple wants to make sure they have translations, but… why not just let me watch it in English?
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turtle
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Yesterday, 15:10

Aren't German laws pretty tight in health related things? I take for granted so many things that we can have online/on-air here in the States.

I'm to where I only do one HIIT a week with Fitness+ but I do like it when they aren't trying to force an awareness special down my throat. I'm here to workout, not anything else. That being said I like just about all of the HIIT trainers. I don't think I've disliked one of them yet. I haven't done treadmill or core yet. I do "Mindful Cool Down" and those aren't bad even though they could easily push a religious belief at me but they don't.

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kscherer
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Yesterday, 15:30

I was gonna say, Deutschlanders get a whole new set of regs, don't they?

Might be something in there about getting shot if you aren't perfectly lined up?


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