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Formerly turtle2472 Join Date: Mar 2005
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Louis L'Amour, “To make democracy work, we must be a nation of participants, not simply observers. One who does not vote has no right to complain.” Visit our archived Minecraft world! | Maybe someday I'll proof read, until then deal with it. |
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Which way is up?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Boyzeee
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Just think. If Ford would just stop spending resources on missiles, and cars and such, they could focus all of their manpower on the F450 SuperDuty!
I mean, there are almost 12 people in line for that thing. Jerks! Apple picked exactly the right computers to start with. They're sailing out of our shop like crazy, and the line is growing. Oh, by the way: SOC engineers and audio engineers are not the same field. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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Mr. Vieira
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Things are exciting/interesting on the Mac side again. |
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Which way is up?
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True, but Apple have tech engineers working on stuff regardless what products get launched. The Apple Silicon SOC guys are not getting cancelled, nor is their work dependent on the launch of headphones, and nor are audio engineers going to have much impact on what is happening in the Apple Silicon labs, short of sharing their needs with the SOC design team.
- AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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I am worthless beyond hope. Join Date: Dec 2005
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Used an M1 MacBook Air briefly this evening. Holy shit. The speed increase in everything is incredible.
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If I was using a ton of VMs I might be concerned, but even that might not be a big deal from the sounds of things. |
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*AD SPACE FOR SALE*
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Just ordered myself a Mac Mini 16GB RAM/256GB SSD as a new work computer. My 2012 MBP that I had be using as a desktop for the last few years is starting to show it's age.
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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I would think so. I know the feeling, with my 2007, and as of last year, 2013 Macs.
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Which way is up?
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Apple is crushing itself with the M1, and now they're crushing Windows on ARM, and by no small margin.
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No surprise, Window is poorly optimized for ARM based chips, even the native version.
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Lord of the Rant.
Formerly turtle2472 Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Upstate South Carolina
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Well, they already have Office native to M1 so they know how to do it... even if it is with Xcode.
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I don't know if Microsoft messed up or Qualcomm did or both of them, but hopefully, all these M1 headlines "inspire" someone at Microsoft and/or Qualcomm to put the foot on the gas again. The M1 and SQ2 are actually amusingly simple to compare: they draw similar amounts of power, they both run at roughly 3.2 GHz, and they're both a 4+4 core setup. (edit) Oh, and both use TSMC as the manufacturer*. (Side note: I hope some future Geekbench update will take these heterogenous setups into account. Even Intel is moving towards them, so listing cores as a singular integer number of "8 cores" just doesn't make sense any more.) Core by core, the M1 is roughly 2.1 times as fast: it scores around in single-core on Geekbench, whereas the SQ2 scores around 800. On top of that, Apple's core scheduler seems to be more efficient (or their use of efficiency cores in addition to performance ones is more aggressive), as the factor is even higher for multiple cores, at about 2.4. Qualcomm's phone CPUs are actually about 10% faster, which is not nothing, and they have to accomplish that with less thermal headroom, so I'm not sure why they do so poorly on the tablet CPU front. The explanation I come away with is they're not trying. *) to be fair, the SQ2 is still 7nm, not 5nm. So that does give Apple some gains, but it doesn't come close to explaining the discrepancy. |
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https://mspoweruser.com/apple-m1-vs-...2-geekbench-5/ It's the SQ2 that's the shitshow here, not Windows. |
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Given that the M1 is far better than Qualcomm's best ARM stuff, no surprise. Let's face it Qualcomm is getting to be like Intel, AX chips have been pounding the Snapdragon chips for how long now? Apple is basically a generation or maybe two ahead of the other ARM based CPUs on the market.
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Here's a strange one.
The only thing stopping me pulling the trigger on a couple of M1 Macs (Mini and Air) is my seemingly antiquated Adobe software. I own (outright, who'd a thunk it) the last non-rental Creative Suite. It doesn't work on Catalina, let alone Big Sur, so I'm currently stranded on Mojave. I will one day no doubt be wrestled in to taking a CS plan for Photoshop, but I also use Illustrator and In Design a few times a year - not a lot, but vital - but not going to rent the full CS suite no matter what. Stubborn see. Long winded introduction, to a very short question... With the new M1 Macs only running 64bit, my CS is toast, would I be able to run a Windows version of old CS Illustrator and in Design in Parallels or something, on the M1 Macs? And of course, Is the old licence valid for Windows as well as OS X? |
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Parallels in beta only runs ARM versions of the OS. So far no x86 emulation support for M1 Macs.
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There have been rumblings that Windows for ARM could solve the problem, but Microsoft has not yet licensed it so it is a non-starter. Basically, the answer is "no". At least not yet. If Microsoft is smart, Windows for ARM will be license-able (is that a word?) by the end of 2021. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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Mr. Vieira
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Graculus, I don't know your specific needs and compatibility concerns, but I can expand on Frank777's suggestions a bit. I ditched Adobe nearly two years ago and I bought both Affinity Designer and Affinity Photo 12-18 months ago and I've yet to run into anything that I couldn't do before with the Adobe versions.
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Sorry, didn't mean to turn this into an Affinity infomercial. But I'll do the "off-topic" tags so folks don't have to look at it if they don't want. |
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And as the Creative Suites in question have the same issues in Windows 10 as they do in Catalina, looks like it is indeed a non-starter. M$ won't be porting Vista or ME over to ARM will they! Oh well, thanks for the clarifications. Merry Christmas everybody! |
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Yeah, I know Affinity offers a full suite.
But I like Pixelmator a bit more than Photo, and I don't want to be held captive to another software behemoth ever again. |
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But it's the legacy and collaboration issues mean I have to have Adobe stuffs somewhere, sometimes. To be fair, I use Photoshop a great deal, and will likely plumb for that at some point, but the yearly need for Illustrator and In Design won't be handled by other software without a great deal of transitional work at my end - and frankly - I'm too lazy, and it's not financially worthy of it :-) |
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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Pixelmator is nice. I still have the non-pro version. I don't really use it anymore, but it was my go-to app of that type for years. It's a good, solid choice too. That was my first experience with new, modern (designed from the ground-up for OS X/Macs) "Adobe killer" titles and it's really good! Probably even better now than when I was using it a lot, a few years ago.
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Mr. Vieira
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I don't use them in anger either. I just like them, and at this point I'm just not looking/needing to spend Adobe-level money to do what I do. I'm lucky. Many aren't, I realize. But, so far, I've been able to do just fine!
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(All figures in Canadian Dollars.) So you could test them all out for a little over the cost of one month on Creative Cloud. Edit: Okay, I see you already have the Affinity suite and still need the legacy stuff. |
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