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WWDC2019 Write code. Blow minds. This is not an invitation. It’s a challenge. This is your chance to join thousands of coders, creators, and crazy ones this summer to do the insanely great. San Jose, CA, June 3–7 What an interesting logo. Neon sign style. Anyway, it will be interesting to see what comes out with this one. Louis L'Amour, “To make democracy work, we must be a nation of participants, not simply observers. One who does not vote has no right to complain.” Visit our archived Minecraft world! | Maybe someday I'll proof read, until then deal with it. |
Lord of the Rant.
Formerly turtle2472 Join Date: Mar 2005
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Different graphics are out there too. This is one posted online linked by one of the tech blogs:
You know, I hope they bring life back into the app icons and such. This phase of "flat" bland styling sucks and doesn't do well IMO. I know some like it, but I'd rather have back the full textured icons that had lots of info to convey and looked good. Louis L'Amour, “To make democracy work, we must be a nation of participants, not simply observers. One who does not vote has no right to complain.” Visit our archived Minecraft world! | Maybe someday I'll proof read, until then deal with it. |
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Formerly turtle2472 Join Date: Mar 2005
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And yet one more:
So we are neon monkeys who will die watching the explosion. As skeletons we will have things blown out of our head and then become robots. Maybe LEGO mini figures instead. Louis L'Amour, “To make democracy work, we must be a nation of participants, not simply observers. One who does not vote has no right to complain.” Visit our archived Minecraft world! | Maybe someday I'll proof read, until then deal with it. |
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Formerly turtle2472 Join Date: Mar 2005
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I think going into dark mode is the biggest thing they have talked about. also killing 32bit apps. That doesn't really make a whole lot of difference to most users other than they have to find new apps for the ones that no longer work.
I saw mention of new media app from Apple for macOS expected to be announced. Screen shots are boring. Hardware, I'd be shocked if they do any hardware. They haven't done hardware are WWDC in a long time that I recall. I mean, they might have, but I really can't specifically recall the last time they did so for anything memorable. Louis L'Amour, “To make democracy work, we must be a nation of participants, not simply observers. One who does not vote has no right to complain.” Visit our archived Minecraft world! | Maybe someday I'll proof read, until then deal with it. |
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I hope you're right. Any announcement for a piece of hardware would be nice. The thing I don't get is why they won't build a solid tower that is easily upgradable. I understand they see computers as consumables but they really are more durables than consumables. Especially in the Pro arena. This is why I'm still building and using hackintosh machines for my heavy lifting. I was going to dock my MBP and use it, but it just isn't the same at all.
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See, I get that they can't make as much cash by forcing every user into buying every upgrade through Apple directly. The thing about many Mac users is they are willing to pay the premium to not have to mess with it. That's part of the whole "just works" mindset. And the concept that we aren't already overpaying just to have the Apple logo on our hardware is laughable. I mean, yeah people like me and PB PM aren't going to pay Apple's tax for RAM or other components. I'm sure we would be limited by a CPU and accompanying chipset though. So we are back to something like the mini where we can upgrade the RAM, storage and now graphics. They will say CPU is off limits even though it's not different than any other Intel based system. I helped out an old church I went to long ago with a power supply for an early Intel Mac Pro. Apple said the PSU wasn't user serviceable/replaceable. It was, just more complicated to do than changing out one in a PC tower. I think I had to pull the logic board out to get the PSU out. It's that kind of design that will keep Apple controlling as much as possible and thus the follow on income of servicing out of warranty service on otherwise good machines. This of course brings up Apple's real income maker, service and services. The hardware is icing on the cake. They make their money keeping us on the hook with paid iCloud upgrades, Apple Music, iTunes in the Cloud and soon even a credit card. Louis L'Amour, “To make democracy work, we must be a nation of participants, not simply observers. One who does not vote has no right to complain.” Visit our archived Minecraft world! | Maybe someday I'll proof read, until then deal with it. |
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Moral of the story: It's about more than money. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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It is about the money, Apple would rather you just buy a new machine than fix or upgrade what you got. That's the bottom line.
Example, the 2018 Mac Mini has soldered storage, no way to upgrade or replace it if it fails, without replacing the entire logicboard anyway. The entire machine, which could be working just fine, would be a write off because they couldn't be bothered to put in a 4x PCI-E M.2 slot. Of course, Apple wouldn't want users to know that third party NVMe drives are way faster and cheaper than what they are shipping, so I can see why. |
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What you say is based entirely on opinion, and not on fact.
… is not fact, but opinion. We get it. The soldered storage can be a pain. Yet, it is more reliable. Our service department sees this on a regular basis. We make more money on old hardware with removable, replaceable bits, than we do on new hardware without. Far more! Our bread-and-butter is in replacing removable hard drives and RAM that have failed, not on selling new computers. Take out the moving-parts HDD and replace it with SSD. No moving bits = increased reliability = increased customer satisfaction. You may not like it because you want to open the box, twist a screwdriver, and see what jiggles loose, but most customers do not care. And by "most", I mean "almost all". But, hey, you keep dragging that 2007 iMac along with its slow RAM bus and slow-as-hell SATA drive-interface. We're happy to keep charging you money to sell a dream. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) Last edited by kscherer : 2019-06-01 at 01:10. |
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The speed and price difference between what Apple offers and what third parties (who are the OEM's anyway, Samsung, Crucial/Micron, WD/Toshiba/SD, are Apple's suppliers after all) offer is a fact, not an opinion. The 500GB SSD in my 2018 Mac Mini is way slower than the WD Black 500GB NVMe SSD in my desktop PC. The Mini caps out at 1800MB/s read, 1000MB/s write, the desktop over 3000MB/s read and 2300MB/s write. No question which is faster. The WB black was $139 Cdn for 500GB, the Mini upgrade from a 256GB drive to a 500GB drive was $240 Cdn. If that's not Apple gouging, I don't know what is. Now it could be the Apple is opting for slower MLC based drives for better longevity, but my guess is they are just massively over pricing the upgrades to increase profits. So as I said, it's all about the money. I like Apple products, but I will not be an apologist for them.
Wouldn't hang onto a machine with a Core 2 Duo, although my sister has that 2007 iMac, they hardly use a desktop computer so they don't care. I don't keep a machine for than 5-8 years. Do I upgrade them? Of course, I'm not going to buy a new machine just because I need more storage or RAM, that's just stupid and waste of money. Of course I do it myself, not have some hack making $10 an hour in a back of a mom and pop computer shop that chargers $100 an hour do it. I have a custom PC (2018 parts), 2018 Mac Mini, and a 2012 Mac Mini (media centre use only). Never had a hardware failure on any Mac I've bought, other than a Gigabit Ethernet G4 that had a power supply die. Stuck it into a G4 I picked up for $20, swapped parts over (the old one was better), and still boot it up for some legacy OS9 stuff once every few years, and that has nothing on our 1980's Mac. Old stuff is old, but I don't mind my little museum pieces. Last edited by PB PM : 2019-06-01 at 12:56. |
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Hack? Seriously? They’re people. With jobs. You know, trying to support families. And those “mom and pop” shops represent real people who take real risks to provide jobs and services that other people want and/or need!
They’re no more hacks than you are! Reign it in and try to show at least a little respect. And even if Apple provides the world with the ultimate, super easily upgradeable computer (cheese grater Mac Pro?) there will still be people who will want/need those “hacks” to help them. Edit: sheesh! Doing this on an iPhone just flat out sucks! - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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— Ok. What's coming, today? Mac OS 10.15 iOS 13 TV OS 13 or 6 or whatever it's called Watch OS 6 More Swift things that will blow somebody's mind One more thing … Mac Pro tower, and Phil Schiller will urinate on the tech media. I am guessing that Craig Federighi will make some jokes about the new Mac OS name, certainly something about pot or getting stoned somewhere in the mountains and having a "vision" or something crazy. I am guessing there will be no less than 15 different types of humans shown at the exhibit. Most of them will be woefully unprepared, but they will definitely drone on and on about their little nugget of software excellence. iTunes will get dissected, decimated, trimmed, and deleted and we will all wonder what is going to happen to our respective media servers. Podcasts, Apple TV, and Music will arrive in the hands of some random presenter we have never heard of before. Federighi will take a funky picture of himself and giggle. That Watch OS dude will drive me bats. There will be additional chatter about Apple's vision for Apple TV+. Hopefully, Oprah will not make an appearance. The Mac Pro will be awesome, but tech nerds worldwide will stomp their feet because they cannot install their SCSI drives or Radeon 7200 GPU. I mean, their old PC can do it! Finally, a random singer/songwriter will sing a song I have never heard before, and will never hear again. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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