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http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Ni...5444/D700.html
Basically a D3 without the vertical grip, ISO range stops at 6400, and it has the self-cleaning sensor of the D300 which is nice. For anyone who isn't a sports or fashion photographer the D700 is a clear win. Will be interesting to see if they have cleaned up the ISO performance even more than the D3, up to 6400. Good stuff. Way to stay ahead of the game, Nikon. ...into the light of a dark black night. |
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Based on the D3 it should have very good dynamic range; with the grip, it shoots pretty darn fast (8fps); and of course industry leading high ISO performance. It should do extremely well with wedding and PJ shooters.
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Aw hell, I was hoping it'd be, ya know, affordable or something. I just wanna spend $500, tops, not $3k.
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Nice!
This camera is presumably tied with the D3 for the best low-light performance on the market, is built to flat-out pro standards (full weather sealing, Nikon's famous (and beautiful!) circular viewfinder window, etc.), and actually shoots very quickly, particularly with the grip option. It'll cannibalise a lot of D3 sales, but realistically it will also put serious pressure on Canon's 1D-series cameras. Price is important even for pros, and 8 fps (with the grip, which of course does cost money too) is nothing to sneeze at, even for sports. Here's a few sample images from Nikon. They don't tell us anything new, but check out the fourth image (woman in church) to remind yourself just how good that sensor is. (The flare resistance of that Nano-coated zoom is quite special too.) Interestingly, the viewfinder is of slightly higher magnification than the D3's (0.72x versus 0.70x). They undoubtedly use the same prism. This places the D700 in second place on the DSLR viewfinder magnification list (after the 1Ds Mark III with 0.76x). Much larger than the 1D Mark III (0.59x). Now, will Canon be brave and put a non-"pro" $2k full-frame DSLR on the market, or release another excellent but strictly me-too product at $3k? If the former, things will get interesting! |
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The D700 mini site is up! This is really an impressive camera. Man those three photographers must feel pretty honored.
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I shoot Canon but Nikon cameras are making me jealous. They have such a strong lineup of SLRs.
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Well the current 5D is <$2000, so that's always an option. My guess is the 5DII will be more of the same for Canon, 16mp in a glorified EOS 40D body for $2500+. |
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...and yes to be chosen as Nikon's photographer in these new camera exposes is pretty much an honor I'd say. |
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I liked some of the photos from all three photographers featured, though I thought Doug Menuez' work was the most consistent. But watching him work and talk in the movie of him was downright cringe-worthy! And Cherie Steinberg Coté and her partner are a strange duo.
Looking at the big picture, Nikon has extracted itself with astonishing aplomb from the dire straits of trying to sell DX-format pro cameras for $5k. The line-up of D300, D700, D3 and soon-to-arrive D3x is unbeatable. The two already here are attractive cameras that have been released almost flawlessly, to near universal acclaim, and fantastic sales have resulted. The D700 will certainly follow in those footsteps, and likely the D3x too. In contrast, Canon is now stuck with the expensive niche-market 1Ds Mark III, a soundly trumped 1.3x-crop-factor 1D Mark III with lingering problems that seriously dented pro confidence in the Canon brand, and a deeply discounted geriatric 5D that shares nothing with the pro cameras (and therefore isn't very attractive as a secondary or backup camera). The 1.6x crop-factor cameras are competitive, but the pro line-up is in a tricky spot. Canon does still have a lens-range advantage in the pro market, with plenty of unique choices (particularly fast primes with ultra-sonic focusing motors). And their lenses are widely available. According to a recent post on The Online Photographer, fully 18 out of Nikon's 20 most expensive lenses are backordered or out of stock at B&H Photo. Nikon must strike now while the iron is hot, which means getting more high-end Nikkors out of the factory pronto. But it's amazing how much things have changed in a single year. I noticed an awful lot of Nikons on the side-lines of the Euro 2008 football games. Last year you'd have been lucky to spot one among the white cannons. |
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Nikons, but Canon still overpowers them at sports events with their on-site support staff. |
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The D80 and D200 have one of the best viewfinders of all crop-sensor DSLRs, with good magnification, generous eye-relief, and a proper penta-prism. The only crop-sensor cameras with an [imperceptibly] larger viewfinder are the Pentax K10D/K20D, and the D300 (the latter due only to larger coverage rather than greater magnification). The D70 had a terribly small viewfinder, even smaller than that of the D40/D40x/D60. But it did have a prism rather than the penta-mirror that the new low-end cameras have, so it was brighter. I haven't paid much attention to the focus screens in these cameras, though I did find manual focus very difficult with the D70s I used for a couple of weeks. |
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I think the D700 is pretty exciting stuff. Considering that an F6 costs about $2000, a $3000 D700 is only about a $1K premium for the sensor and associated goodies. Granted it is a different body/AF module, but they're in a comparable class (high-end) SLRs (albeit one film and the other digital)
It sort of puts the lie to the whole, "OMG, 35mm sensors are always going to cost too much" school of thought. Yeah, they still cost a lot, but they're dropping enough to make a D700 possible for less than half of what it would have cost 5 years ago. Interesting thing about the entry level Nikons, they're dropping the focus motor drive as they work their way up the model line-up. First with the D40, now the D40x and D60. Will the D90 successor be next? Could be an interesting way of distinguishing it from the D300, if it ends up inheriting most of the electronic bits. I guess we're going to lose the focus motor entirely at some point, though I think it will be years before pros relinquish their screw-driven lenses. ......................................... |
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I'm just imagining casual users + 3-area autofocus resulting in many, many blurry faces.
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So glad I never "made the switch" to sub-35mm DSLRs. I'm a Nikon fanboy and always held out hope that at some point they would see the light and realize how many of us actually were waiting until full-size sensors came out so we could actually use our 35-mm lenses properly. Namely, my prized 24-mm would be completely worthless on those DX sensors. So, now they've taken one step further to tempt me to make the switch to DSLR.
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I'd love to know how much the FX sensor in the D3 and D700 costs Nikon. I find it hard to believe that it costs even $1k, but I don't know much about how they're made. |
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Have the zooms all been updated to AFS more or less? The 70-200VR, 200-400, 24-70 and 14-24, and one prime, I think, the 200 f/2.
The 85's could use an update. (I think the 50 as well) Most have little need of primes, but an 85 and a 50 are nice things to have, and don't need to cost a lot. ......................................... |
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The following AF-S lenses are listed on the Nikon UK website.
DX lenses: 12-24mm f/4G ED-IF AF-S DX NIKKOROnly one DX lens is not AF-S: the 10.5mm f/2.8G ED DX Fisheye-NIKKOR. FX lenses: Zooms:14-24mm f/2.8G ED AF-S NIKKOR Micro lenses (macro to everyone but Nikon):60mm f/2.8G ED AF-S Micro NIKKOR Telephotos:So basically the three f/2.8 pro zooms from 14 to 200 mm, the super-telephoto lenses that need AF-S for fast focusing, the new macro lenses (that will probably be around for many years), and the consumer DX lenses are all AF-S. So Nikon's probably putting AF-S in lenses in roughly the right order.200mm f/2G ED-IF AF-S VR NIKKOR The three new Perspective Control lenses, which will probably stay in the system for a decade or more, are manual-focus. So yes, the glaring hole at the moment is short AF-S primes. I'm sure they will arrive in the near future, and if Nikon's recent lens-design form is anything to go by (the Nano-Coat era), they'll probably be stellar! Considering they're arriving late, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Nikon decides to one-up the competition and put optical image-stabilisation (VR) in some of them too. |
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I never really pay attention to the tele end of things. I hadn't realized that so many of the lenses had been updated. I think the focus motor is not long for this world then. Another ten years or so, maybe...
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Just ordered mine. I hate myself for ordering so late. I am leaving the country for good Sept 8th and fear that it won't arrive in time...
Any ideas as to how to get it sooner? |
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It's a terrible thing to hate yourself. Maybe the worst thing.
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Oh baby yes! My D700 was shipped today!
I realise you guys probably couldn't care less, and probably hate me for bumping this thread, but hey, I'll promise to share my thoughts once I get it. 17-35 f/2.8 has been my favourite lens. I'm really hoping it'll be just as good on the D700. |
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Nice... let us know how you like it Steve-o. Uber-jealous!
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