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Fortunately, catastrophic failure of a single component (in peacetime conditions) is not likely to cause the loss of a submarine. At least, that is my opinion, having spent over 10 years on them. Submarine designers must be very confident because today's boats are less compartmentalized than the earlier designs.
That does not lessen the gravity of her actions, though. Although it happens much too often, the military generally tries to make it such that a single point of failure will not have disastrous consequences. This is so serious, though, because it attacks the root of a system which is supposed to guarantee, as much as possible, that these failures do not occur, and one can only hope that this is a singular occurrence. |
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Which way is up?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Boyzeee
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Irregardless the possibility of failure, this person's traitorous actions should be treated as such. Our front-line defenses must stand against the very best efforts of a potential enemy, and this kind of foolishness could lead to the loss of billions of dollars worth of hardware, and hundreds — if not thousands — of lives.
This woman is a coward willing to stand behind the sacrifice of her own children in order to make a little money. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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Syfy is just mad they didn’t think of this, denying us all an awesome Sharkobra (Great White Diamondback? MakoMamba?) flick or three.
ViperShark vs. MantaPus…don’t even act like you wouldn’t watch it. To be clear, the venom is secreted by their fins and not via a bite (which, face it, would’ve been 10x cooler). |
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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Good grief.
Nothing says "I'm a perv on a budget" quite like rubber bands. I take it the $479 Hermès Ankle Band: CooterScope™ Edition was never going to be an option for gramps here. Quote:
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Miss Observant. On a separate note, I guess I should take some sort of comfort in knowing the wheels of justice turn as slowly in other places as they seem to here. She filed a report well over a year ago and he's just now going to jail. Take your time, fellas...no hurry. This is in Singapore...the man is lucky they didn't cane the shit out of him. I remember they (finally) gave that American teenager twat a few lashes for theft/vandalism years ago. If they'll cane a (deserving) foreigner, I'm sure they'd love nothing more than beating on one of their own. Last edited by psmith2.0 : 2021-11-11 at 10:40. |
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Chances are they’ll beat him in prison.
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Which way is up?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Boyzeee
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Yeah, well, our people can be as stupid as your people!
Hey, Coolaid! I'm gonna put up some metal rails along my fence. That should fix the problem. But, I'll probably get sued. So maybe I'll just keep a rabid dog in the yard? No, that'll get me sued, too. Feed them some birdshot? That's always an option. I'm pretty sure the only thing I can do without getting sued is call the police and wait for them to not call me back. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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TikTok seems to be an endless fount of cuntery, with so many of their "challenges" that seem to center around screwing with/messing up the property/privacy/peace of others. I'd hold these little pisspots - and their oblivious, useless parents - accountable for every dime of repair to my fence. And then I'd squeeze another $500 (I know some people ) or so from them just for a PITA fee/compensation.
Yeah, I'm "old"...but even in my youth it never occurred to me to destroy things of others for "fun". Maybe I was raised better than to ever think that way. What if that fence held in a beloved dog that the family truly cared about, and it got out and got hit/killed by a car? Just because some TikTards had to participate in one of their fuckwit "challenges" and knock a hole in someone's fence, trying to be funny/cute? That's the kind of thing these jackals never think about. Their actions could go far beyond some fence repair, and completely break some family's heart because their dog(s) got loose in a way that they could've never reasonably expected. Who would ever think some moron is going to crash through their fence like this? If you want to be an attention-whoring assbag on social media, fine...it's all the rage, apparently. But leave everyone else - and their property/presence - out of it. Destroy/damage your fence (and then do everyone a huge favor and be sure to film your dad beating your ass over it). Last edited by psmith2.0 : 2021-11-11 at 12:52. |
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Which way is up?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Boyzeee
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I actually think we should track down and hold accountable those who start the nonsense. The Tik-Tok "challenge" has its roots in someone, somewhere, and they should be charged for inciting violence and or menacing behavior. And believe me, they can be tracked down!
- AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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Ninja Editor
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Ninja Editor
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Yeah, seeing the date stamp was a bit jarring. I vaguely remember when the thread was started, and simply refuse to believe that much time has passed since then.
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Promise Land of Trustafarians
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Another (less tragic) incident on the set of "Rust".
'Rust' crew member hospitalized after bitten by brown recluse spider 1) Didn't think there would be anything going on at that set after the shooting. 2) Really sucks to be that guy. Losing your arm to a spider bite? Yikes. 3) Rule of threes says we're clearly going to see one more awful incident on this set. |
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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Wow. Yeah, I had no idea production had kicked back up on this thing. All I read/heard a few weeks ago is that it had shut down (obviously) and likely wasn't coming back, or would ever get finished.
And now this. It might've happened a few weeks ago (the article says following the shooting, so anytime between three weeks ago and yesterday is possible), and we're just now learning about it? Yeah...no way a third awful thing doesn't happen at this point. If I'm on that crew, I turn in my notice tonight. Not sticking around, waiting for that other shoe to drop! I'd be afraid the ghost of Judge Roy Bean would show up and hang someone or something. When cornered by TMZ morons, a visibly relieved Alec Baldwin stated "Thank God. Now maybe you jackals can go hound that fucking spider for 2-3 weeks - camp out on his doorstep 24/7 - and climb off my ass." Okay, not really. But he should. If/when this thing ever gets released - home video/streaming, certainly not theatrically - it'll probably enjoy a week or so of strong viewing, just the curiosity/coverage surrounding the thing. Much like a 2 Live Crew album, it'll wind up being more popular than it ever deserved/warranted, just from the negative publicity/coverage surrounding it. Last edited by psmith2.0 : 2021-11-13 at 21:02. |
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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Hey, you get what you pay for!
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"Hey, let's not post anything we can't stick to...it might happen again tomorrow night!" Imagine piss-boy's day-after conversation with friends... "Dude, how was the show last night? Have a good time?" "Oh, man...it was awesome. The singer pissed all over me!" "Wait...what? Was this like some sort of fetish thing after you managed to hook up with her in her hotel room after the show?!" "No, man...on stage, during the show!" "So she was kinda that whole subversive Sex Pistols 'spit on the audience'/GG Allin 'shit on stage' thing and you just happened to be on the front row and catch the worst?" "No, man...she said she really had to pee and asked for a volunteer to come up on stage and...". "We can't be friends." Quote:
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Lord of the Rant.
Formerly turtle2472 Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Upstate South Carolina
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Wow. I can't say I would have ever expected that to happen.
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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But...but...they're artists. Peeing on stuff is just part of it!
Remember that time Patsy Cline hiked her leg at the Ryman and pissed all over Roy Acuff? No, I don't either. |
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Again, while the implications of this person's actions are not in dispute, there was no monetary or idealogical gain from this person's actions, other than the normal pay and promotions associated with her job. In this case, it was more of the person believing that they knew what the customer needed rather than giving what was asked. So, I am now just trying to put a further perspective on the news as I read it, which may alter perceptions for the worse, or possibly better than first impressions. The vendor in cases like these only knows that it is providing material according to military specifications and not the end use. A person in this position would only know that the Navy specified that the part be tested at -100°F and not that, perhaps, the temperature was specified so as not to reveal the pressure rating for which the part would be used. Not as an excuse but more a clue to the state of mind is that this started sometime after the press sensationalized excesses in military spending and specifications that required $600 toilet seats and $100 hammers. This person started employment in 1977, and pled guilty to falsifying test results from 1985 to 2017. I would maintain that the person had no clue as to the possible results of her actions. Irresponsible, yes, but not conspiratorial or traitorous. I believe those who have been in the Navy know that particular branch of service is not known for leniency. However, it is interesting to note that almost every reported version of the story includes that the Justice Department stated that they would be pursuing the minimum sentence allowed for this transgression (up to 10 years and a fine of up to $1 million). Also not clear, without reading several reported versions, is that the company was fined almost $11 million, which actually does not sound like much for over 30 years of supplying non-standard parts, with the provision that no criminal charges would be pressed if the company completed their corrective action plan within three years. What set me off initially, when describing the Subsafe program was the wording that the company was a vendor for high yield steel, which could imply pressure hull. But if this were true, I would expect the consequences to the company and the person to be stiffer. Just some other notes, not meaning to have anything to do with how this person should be treated, but things which might or might not be true because the articles did not provide context: This person's started when she was a lower level employee, 25 years before she was promoted to head of the department. She likely performed the actual testing before being promoted to a position to approve the test results. Some articles said that 50% of the items she was responsible for certifying failed. I would interpret that to mean that these were destructive tests, meaning that they were samples taken from a batch of castings to determine the suitability of the batch. I would expect that this testing would not be "go/no go", but would include the details of the parameters at which the components failed, allowing some analysis of whether or not the components were actually acceptable for use under the operational conditions with a safety margin. I found 5 pages of news articles linked by Yahoo! news, and it seems that no one story included all the facts, and sometimes they were combined. For instance, this person oversaw the production of 240 batches of steel, which was a majority of the steel produced for the Navy. At the same time, half of the samples she was responsible for testing failed. But some stories reported this as 240 batches, which was half the steel supplied to the Navy. Also, some stories said that the $10.9 million was charged to her personally. This happens for almost every news story, that there is some source document somewhere, but every news agency has to pick and choose which facts they report, and put their personal interpretations, which sometimes show that the writers don't really understand what they are reporting or just want to put some spin or agenda for what they want the reader to feel. |
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Mr. Vieira
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Location: Tennessee
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I guess all the equally old, past-their-prime British music icons are having a go at the Stones.
Now it's Roger Daltrey's turn! Quote:
"The fleet just came in, and your sister couldn't be happier! No disrespect." PS - He's right, BTW. But The Who - the Roger and Pete Show, anyway - hasn't done anything of note in 40 years, so they're all on equal footing in my eyes. How many lying-ass "farewell" tours have The Who staged for years to gullible fans who always choose to believe such things? Quote:
To be clear, I'm a fan of all three bands and have played their songs gazillions of times over the years. But my fandom also has its limits/sell-by date and I know none of these guys are ever going to do anything better than they did 45-55(!) years ago. I can say that every one of them should've seriously considered hanging it up a good 20 years ago. They're all a bit laughable - and just this side of pathetic - at this point, IMO. But it's kinda tough to feel bad for any of them...they've got more money than God and nobody expects anything new or meaningful from any of them at this point. They all peaked decades ago and nobody wants to hear anything any of them have done since about 1982 or so anyway. All these old dust-pooters are getting catty/snarky in their old age, huh? I guess they're trying to "keep it young" and act like everyone on those "popular" reality shows constantly slamming each other in public. "Is this what the young people like these days?" |
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Just put on Tommy and pretend everyone involved is already dead.
I get why these old acts keep touring, there's just too much money on the table, but it's gotten rather pathetic. I think I posted this upthread but someone once told me that as a rock act, you either die young or live long enough to become your own tribute band. I'm guilty of indulging in it too—I've been to the John Mayer/Grateful Dead show a couple times—but in general I don't understand the attraction to these shows. |
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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And at those prices!
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At least Dead and Co tickets were pretty reasonable. $40 I think? And the venue they use here is walkable from most of town so you don't have to deal with parking and traffic.
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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The Greatest Musical Artists of Our Time may be in a bit of trouble over their recent pissing-on-stage incident.
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"Hey, the tired-ass crucifix-in-a-jar thing has been done already. I'ma piss in this dude's face!" I expect a Grammy next year, guys. Maybe replicate the "incident" on live TV? It'll make Janet Jackson's titty flopping out at the Super Bowl look like an episode of Caillou. I do believe I see a Kennedy Center Honor looming on the distant horizon. They can sit up in that box in a few years and enjoy the tributes...John Mayer pissing on Carlos Santana, Herb Alpert taking a whiz on Jewel, etc. The possibilities/combinations are endless! |
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Whipping out the bits on stage is nothing new, and "art" has been used as an excuse to prevent prosecution with some success.
These are adults and … whatever. Stupid people gonna stupid. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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Yeah, everyone does it.
Jim Morrison, Wendy O. Williams and Iggy Pop. Hell, that's practically the entire damn music industry! A shame two of them are six feet under and unable to appreciate their contributions to the performing arts. Next comes the lawsuit from (sobered-up) pissboy*, over some VD-tinged eye infection. "Wait, I let some chick do what?!" *I'll wager $1,500 with anyone here this happens before Christmas. And nobody here will take the bet because, deep down, they know I'll win. We haven't heard the last of this idiot, I promise you. |
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Ninja Editor
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I used to work at a live music venue, and bands would sometimes let people up on stage to dance or whatever. After one show, I wrote a sign to put on the door to the stage… a sign I never thought I’d have to write… “If you’re going to invite your drunk friend up on stage, please ensure they keep their clothes on”.
I have no clue what sign I would’ve had to make if someone in one of the bands had tried to pee on-stage (with or without the face bucket). When I was a kid, people who did wrong were punished, restricted, and forbidden. Now, when someone does wrong, all of the rest of us are punished, restricted, and forbidden... and the one who did the wrong is counselled and "understood" and fed ice cream. |
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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I noticed that the other day.
“Well, the first three letters are right there!” Is her zodiac sign PISces? Quote:
“There are designated restrooms located throughout the venue. This stage isn’t one of them, screwheads.” I like to imagine the two people in this story getting together, falling in love. 40-50 years down the road, grandkids at their feet… “Grandpa, how did you and grandma meet?” “Well, Urinella, a long time ago, your grandma used to sing in a band. And I loved to go listen to her! So one night at a show in Daytona, Florida…”. There’s about two years of therapy waiting. Last edited by psmith2.0 : 2021-11-15 at 15:47. |
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Seriously, some people are so hung up on these "gods" that they will seriously do anything to get close to them. Being peed on by your idol is like hitting the lottery. I won't take your bet, because money talks. But, deep down, this dude thinks he's a living sacrifice and will be honored by his clown-friends for years to come*. And you also know that that is true! * Did I spell that right? Stage left is for #1, stage right is for #2. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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Space Pirate
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Location: Atlanta
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Mr. Vieira
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Kinda scared to at this point.
Are they all piss-happy there too? Am I the weird one in all this? |
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