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2007-08-21, 13:01

Cute picture tori.

I like the ants too.
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2007-08-21, 14:40

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2007-08-21, 22:44

Guess I'll join the fray...


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2007-08-21, 23:24

I think we should all dig up our oldest digital cameras and shoot with them just for the sake of amusement. I found my D-320L (from 1998) in a storage box the other day...just need to find the SmartMedia cards...

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2007-08-21, 23:26

We had an old one sitting in a cabinet at my other job. It was dark grey, bulky, etc. Don't remember the actual model (there weren't that many, right?).
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2007-08-21, 23:38

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We had an old one sitting in a cabinet at my other job. It was dark grey, bulky, etc. Don't remember the actual model (there weren't that many, right?).
There's at least three. The two Kodak made ones which are kinda square and flat...you hold them like binoculars. There's also a Fuji rebranded one that looks more conventional. There's probably no way to download photos on the cams to OS X though.
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2007-08-22, 05:18

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Cute picture tori.

I like the ants too.
Thanks.

Does the color look alright in that shot? I ask because in the iLife thread, I posted a comparison of Aperture's compression (this shot) and iWeb's compression and several people commented on the "orange" (well, to use Is it 1981?'s term: fake tan) color of the Aperture export.
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2007-08-22, 10:36

Well, it's a little soft but the color is off too. (Now mind you, I haven't seen your little one personally.) It seems that the white point is being set by the bright spots on the head and shoulder causing the rest to shift a little. I wouldn't say the color cast is horrible, it's not a bad overall effect IMO. But to answer the question, yes there's a color cast.

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2007-08-22, 10:58

Have I not posted here? I could have sworn... Ok, well anyway, here goes:





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2007-08-22, 11:34

Nice shots BR. I keep thinking of your fireworks tips and am looking forward to trying them out myself one day. But, first, as you know, my money is heading toward a film scanner.

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2007-08-22, 15:58

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Thanks.

Does the color look alright in that shot? I ask because in the iLife thread, I posted a comparison of Aperture's compression (this shot) and iWeb's compression and several people commented on the "orange" (well, to use Is it 1981?'s term: fake tan) color of the Aperture export.
Like turtle2472 said, the over-all effect isn't bad...along with the soft focus, it makes the image feel warmer. But yeah, there's definitely a weak amber cast typical of indoor photos shot under incandescent light. The easiest way to correct this is to use the White Balance adjustment tool. Pinpoint something on the photo that you know is supposed to be white. In this case I would use the dropper on the blurred diaper in the background. If that isn't enough you can try another area or use the slider knock down the color temperature in 100 degree steps.

As far as I know, Aperture doesn't add a strong color cast to its photos. If you see a color discrepancy, it's probably the result of viewing the photo in an app that recognizes the embedded color profile, and then seeing it in a browser like Firefox which doesn't... To me, it looks like the newborn pic and the one you took after you got your new lens are more tinted than your latest photo.

Film geeks will lament the lost art of having to get the perfect shot then and there, but subtle post-processing of digital photos is standard fare now. It's why GSpotter's photos look so good. He has a good eye for setting just the right black/white levels, contrast, saturation and sharpening...the end result is a photo that is punchier than real life, but still believable.

EDIT: If you check back to page 6, there is a sub-thread revolving around a photo Ryan took of some tallgrass and adjustments which could be made. In this case I actually preferred Ryan's original because I think it more actually depicted to darkening of a dusk sky. Making the sky bluer had the detrimental effect of making the grass less golden while also giving the sky an overpowering presence. The end effect has me shifting attention back and forth between the grass and sky, whereas in the original I was more naturally viewing the photograph as a whole.

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2007-08-22, 16:24

Eugene, BR, I like your shots guys. I'm not a fan of seagulls personally, but it is a nice shot nonetheless. I love the waterfall and the rocks, it reminds me of a hiking trip I went on a couple of years ago.

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2007-08-22, 16:30

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Eugene, BR, I like your shots guys. I'm not a fan of seagulls personally, but it is a nice shot nonetheless. I love the waterfall and the rocks, it reminds me of a hiking trip I went on a couple of years ago.
It's a seabird of some sort, but I don't think it's actually in the gull family. I don't like them either, but aside from pigeons, they dominate the skys here... Occasionally I see some hawks and carrion birds, but they are far more elusive (weary of humans).
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2007-08-22, 16:54

For the sake of comparison, this is what the original photo looked like:

http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~ceugene/seabird-raw.png

I scaled it down slightly, but everything else was left unprocessed.
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2007-08-22, 18:57

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To me, it looks like the newborn pic and the one you took after you got your new lens are more tinted than your latest photo.
For some reason, ALL of my indoor photos have a strong yellowish cast so what you're seeing are after some white balance adjustments. I don't know what's up with my auto white balance on my camera, but it's nearly never right indoors. I should do some bracketing or metering or whatever, but I haven't had a chance to learn how on my camera (a 300D in case anyone knows offhand).

I'm also still learning the program/adjustments and on that one I toyed with some of the other adjustment levels to get some more warmth. I'll see if I can do better after reading that sub-thread.

The other issue is that I use Aperture on my iMac and my MBP and I'm reasonably certain they're not both calibrated properly much less to each other so it's really hard to tell what is "real". They're close to calibrated, but I'm sure they're not perfect. These LED MBPs are even harder to calibrate than usual.

But we did print that photo and the output is very close to what I was expecting, so that's something.

Thanks for the feedback, turtle and Eugene.
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2007-08-22, 19:21

Found the culprit:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS350D/page20.asp
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS30D/page22.asp
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/Cano...kII/page20.asp
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/EXT/EXTPICS.HTM

Just create a custom WB setting in your camera for use indoors because even Canon's Incandescent preset is too conservative. You'd think WB would be pretty easy to calibrate.
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2007-08-22, 20:36

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Found the culprit:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS350D/page20.asp
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS30D/page22.asp
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/Cano...kII/page20.asp
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/EXT/EXTPICS.HTM

Just create a custom WB setting in your camera for use indoors because even Canon's Incandescent preset is too conservative. You'd think WB would be pretty easy to calibrate.
Honestly, that's more reassuring than troubling. I thought it was something *I* was doing wrong that made all my incandescent shots yellow. Thanks for the links. I'll look into making a custom profile.
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2007-08-22, 22:54

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For the sake of comparison, this is what the original photo looked like:

http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~ceugene/seabird-raw.png

I scaled it down slightly, but everything else was left unprocessed.
What's the lens you used Eugene? There's a fair bit of vignetting in the original - cropping it served you well. I do like the intensity of the blue in the sky though.

tori - a custom WB setting will help and it shouldn't be too hard to work out the bracketing. If you're having trouble let us know and I'll borrow my friend's 350D and post some instructions. (I do find it ironic/quaint in this day and age of reverting to this film-based technique when we have the power to correct our shots in post-processing.)

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What's the lens you used Eugene? There's a fair bit of vignetting in the original - cropping it served you well. I do like the intensity of the blue in the sky though.
That would be the kit 18-200mm. The OEM software could have dealt with the vignetting (or Photoshop's heal tool), but the photo needed to be reframed anyway. There's also additional fall-off because I was at a sandy beach and stuck a UV filter on top to protect the front element.
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2007-08-23, 06:15

What's wrong with vignetting?



This was taken with the 18-135 "wide open" (5.6) at 135. Converted to b&w and increased the contrast to make the bird completely black. Works well, IMHO, though it's not your typical bird porn, of course

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2007-08-23, 06:22

ghoti - I believe you take good pics, but hosting on flickr means that I can't see what you have posted from here in China.

To be sure, I have nothing against vignetting when it is used as a desired effect.

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2007-08-23, 06:46

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What's wrong with vignetting?



This was taken with the 18-135 "wide open" (5.6) at 135. Converted to b&w and increased the contrast to make the bird completely black. Works well, IMHO, though it's not your typical bird porn, of course
Porn would be better. But still looks good to me.
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2007-08-23, 07:00

Mac+, sorry, I had no idea. Actually I guess I heard about that but wasn't making the connection. I've put the picture on my own host, so now I hope it'll be visible. Don't know if I can still edit the ants picture message, but I'll try that too.

geriatric, thanks!
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2007-08-23, 07:02

I also just realized that this is a color photography sharing thread, so sorry for being off-topic. We also need a Kodachrome sharing thread for Dorian Gray, perhaps there is a way to tape a slide to a message.
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2007-08-23, 08:16

ghoti - cheers. Nice shot.

Something odd just happened though. For the first time I was able to see abb's photos on the previous page.

I also went to GSpotter's and your flickr accounts and I can see the thumbnails, but the main image loads for half and then blanks out. Odd.

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2007-08-23, 08:58

Here's two of mine I have on Deviantart:






Got this one on the way into the Gold Coast:



^ Other ones I took on the way down that look like this are Here.

jm.

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2007-08-23, 09:28

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What's wrong with vignetting?



This was taken with the 18-135 "wide open" (5.6) at 135. Converted to b&w and increased the contrast to make the bird completely black. Works well, IMHO, though it's not your typical bird porn, of course
What part of "color photography" do you not understand?!




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2007-08-23, 09:33

Grayscale is the new colorful!
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2007-08-23, 12:03

Our recent family addition, a couple of days ago, at 3 months

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2007-08-24, 01:12

A view of the Univ of Texas Tower:

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