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The most aptly named media event in Apple's history, and by far the most anticipated since the iPhone.
It is now official. Apple Silicon Macs will be announced one week from tomorrow. Be still my heart! I'm hoping for an iMac, but I'm not counting on one. I still suspect that is next year. A laptop and perhaps a new Mac Mini will make their debut next week, for sale immeidatley, but unobtainable until March. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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Formerly turtle2472 Join Date: Mar 2005
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I expect the mini simply because there is already one out as a devkit. Seems to be the easiest to put into mass production.
Then one of the smaller MacBook(Air) notebooks too. I wouldn't be shocked if they give a basic timeline for other machines. Of course, release of Big Sur too. Louis L'Amour, “To make democracy work, we must be a nation of participants, not simply observers. One who does not vote has no right to complain.” Visit our archived Minecraft world! | Maybe someday I'll proof read, until then deal with it. |
Which way is up?
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I won't be surprised if there is a new iPad Pro in 12.9", but not 11", since that size will suffer from iPad Air cannibalizing.
Edit: Also, the rumors are thickening quickly, and it looks like Apple may be shooting for the whole thing! All portables, including MB Air, 13" MB Pro, and 16" MB Pro. As Frank777 said, hitting the gates running would make a statement that Apple Silicon is just as good as Intel! If a 16" MB Pro drops, and the specs are on par with the current 16" MB Pro, then it will be no wonder why Apple is telling Intel to take a hike. "We're better than you!" And the really big rumor: The new Mac Pro is well under way. (Keep in mind that all this stuff is coming from Bloomberg, the world champion of citing "people familiar with the matter", i.e. themselves. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) Last edited by kscherer : 2020-11-02 at 16:54. |
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Really looking forward to this one.
I gave my wife my 2019 MBP a few months ago when she started her new job and I've been using my iMac and iPad Pro to get my work done. Really looking for a 13" MBP replacement out of this event. Just not sure how they're going to bring these new models to market. What order are they going to go with? Big machine to show power they're capable of or small machine to show massive battery life improvements? No more Twitter. It's Mastodon now. |
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The iMac was, y'know, identical to the iMac G5. The Mac mini was identical to the Mac mini G4. The MacBook, replacing the iBook G4, was a little different, but not that much. The Mac Pro and Xserve were virtually identical to the Power Mac G5 and Xserve G5. (Did I forget any Mac?) |
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Which way is up?
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The industrial designs did not change for a generation or two.
And then they changed completely. This first round could be all about same design, equivalent power, significant upgrade to battery life. New designs come later. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
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Hmmm.
In any case, next week will be the first Apple event I plan to watch with any genuine interest/curiosity in a loooong time. Sorry, but I can't get spun up about watch bands, iPhone updates, streaming TV fare I'll never watch, etc. But this stuff is interesting to me, even if I don't understand all the nitty-gritty and hardcore technical angles. For those who still see Apple as more than just a phone/services/lifestyle outfit, it's exciting stuff. I think about the lineup, a year from now...how it might look, the prices, etc. What will be around. What may not. It's just nice to see the Mac getting some focus/attention, and some big moves. |
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The device that will probably showcase bold new design language is the 24" iMac. But no-one knows if that's ready for tomorrow's announcement. |
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Which way is up?
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I care about laptops because we sell a ton of them, and I care about iMacs because I'm ready for a new one.
I care about price mostly because our customers do. I care about design because it drives excitement. I care about chip selection because Apple is held hostage. I'm so ready for this! - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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On the one hand, the iMac is still the quintessential design statement of a Mac.
On the other hand, desktops just don’t matter that much any more. They haven’t in a long time. So Apple could go the quirky way of the Surface Studio, but I don’t think they will. Maybe as a special Mac Draw or something (more likely, as a 20-inch iPad Pro). I think the days of the iMac having daring designs like the G3 and G4 are over, because at this point, whom would they be for? |
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And may as well do something. Although I feel like if Apple released a new Apple Thunderbolt Display for $500 it would likely kill a significant amount of iMac sales. |
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Maybe if they have a particular twist to add — such as touch. But then they'll want you to pay extra, whether you care about the feature or not. |
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I bought a new iMac in August and a 13” MBP for my son a couple of weeks ago, so new models of those should be a lock, LOL.
When I bought the MBP, I had to go to Best Buy, as none of the 5-6 Apple stores around me had any stock. I need the intel CPUs for application compatibility, so I’m not worried about these models being updated today. |
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But to answer your question directly, it's the halo effect. Apple doesn't throw a gazillion iMacs at Hollywood TV shows for nothing. It's the computer that gets the Mac noticed by the culture. A redesigned 30" iMac is worth its weight in marketing gold, even if they're outsold by the MacBook lineup. |
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Lord of the Rant.
Formerly turtle2472 Join Date: Mar 2005
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I was scrolling through my RSS feeds and saw where the Apple Store is down for the event. I brought back memories here where it was a highlight of the event coming and pushing the excitement... then is just got obnoxious.
At least my memory of it was the excitement of the pending event. I'm really hoping work leaves me alone so I can watch this. While I don't anticipate me buying anything being announced, it would be nice to see where the products are going. Louis L'Amour, “To make democracy work, we must be a nation of participants, not simply observers. One who does not vote has no right to complain.” Visit our archived Minecraft world! | Maybe someday I'll proof read, until then deal with it. |
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Best guesses where they'll move the Apple logo to on the front of the chinless iMac? Remove altogether? Embedded in the thin bezel behind the glass? Retain a thin aluminum strip at the bottom just for the logo? Asking the important questions here!
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Mr. Vieira
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As we've talked about there before, the iMac has been distilled down to about all it can really be...the very thing Steve poo-pooed during the introduction of the iMac G4 in January 2002 (a flat screen with the guts glommed onto the back). Materials/sizes aside, that's been pretty much the iMac we've had since September 2004 with the iMac G5 unveiling.
20 years ago, they had color, translucency, curves, etc. to work with. Nothing seemed "off limits" during that cool period (the iEra, I've always called it...1998-2001). For better or worse, things just aren't that way anymore. The aluminum iMac, as we've known it since about 2007, seems pretty dialed-in. Other than tweaking proportions and some chin removal (but that's never really bothered me the way it seems to others), I'm really not sure what they could do to the iMac that wouldn't come across as either "trying too hard" or "change for the sake of change"...neither of which I'm a big fan of. They're certainly not going to go back to colors and curves/swoops. All they're probably interested in doing at this point is removing more ports or "distractions" (although, that might've been Ive and his obsessions; with him gone, perhaps that mindset left with him and whoever's running that department now isn't so averse to functionality/utility). "We've distilled the iMac down to a single 28" hunk of aluminum, at only 4mm thick and with no ports whatsoever." - Jony Ive, 2024 (assuming he'd stuck around). The one thing I have wanted to see is some sort of adjustability. The nicest thing about the iMac G4 was that ability to put the display wherever/however you wanted. I used that feature/capability all the time, based on what I was doing at the moment. Sometimes I'd want it up, straight and eye level, and others I'd lower/tilt it. When someone came over and I wanted to show them something I was working on, I'd just rotate it over to them with a finger push. I don't know if others got into that feature as much, but it's the one part of that model that I miss. That crazy-ass $1,000 stand they have now provides much of that (up and down and forward/backward tilt), but they'd have to figure out a way do incorporate that into an AIO without adding some crazy sum to the price...so I'm not holding my breath on that. But I wouldn't mind seeing some sort of return to the iMac G4 philosophy...where the guts are in some compact, separate lower section that also serves as the base (it would have to be wide/heavy enough to securely support a 21.5"-27" display, of course), and then a "floating", infinitely-adjustable display - as thin/light as possible since it's no longer having to house the entire computer itself - above it. Although that that point, why not just sell the small base unit itself, as the mythical "headless iMac"? Some say that's what the Mac mini kinda already is. And if you BTO it enough, I suppose it is. Then, after dropping $1,500+ on a somewhat-tricked-out Mac mini, you're still on the hook for a decent display to pair with it. And it'll be third-party for most because I don't think many people are going to pair a $5,000+ Apple Display (and a $1,000 stand) with a sub-$2,000 computer. There just aren't that many brain-damaged lottery winners out there. PS - The online store is down. Yay... Last edited by psmith2.0 : 2020-11-10 at 12:27. |
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That's kind of along the lines of what I expect - basically a 23" iPad Pro/Air body on an adjustable stalk of some kind, much like the new displays (with swivel, if possible). An iPhone-thin display would be even sweeter, but then we run into the 'guts' problem, which your base idea would solve. Not sure they'll ever go that route again (since half the point of the sunflower base was the disc drive) but it's a fun thing to imagine.
Then again... there were all those patents around the beginning of the year showing off some weird dock-able single, curved sheet of glass concepts. So it goes. |
Which way is up?
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In our shop, 75-ish% of people buy laptops. Of those, the majority should be buying desktops. In general, students buy laptops because, well, duh; professionals buy laptops, some for portability and some because maybe portability; middle age regular folks buy laptops because they want to be seen as hip and cool; and older folks buy laptops because their kids tell them to.
In that pile, the majority buy laptops that never leave the desk. It's just silly, but it's the cool thing to do. I will be hard pressed to ever buy another laptop. Give me a new iMac, and we will sell the hell out of them, because I recommend people buy the computer they need, not the one their kids think is cool. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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