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drewprops
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2009-11-01, 21:48

How about a thread for discussing typefaces?

A client is entertaining the idea of switching his company's wordmark to that wonderful, yet highly overused typeface Copperplate. I want to err on the side of caution on how to explain the downside of using it, as he's quite fond of the look his company had in the 1980s... but would enjoy hearing your thoughts.


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Robo
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2009-11-02, 00:20

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How about a thread for discussing typefaces?

A client is entertaining the idea of switching his company's wordmark to that wonderful, yet highly overused typeface Copperplate.
NO NO NO NO NO!

Copperplate eats my soul.
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Brad
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2009-11-02, 00:58

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YES YES YES YES YES!

Copperplate rules.
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2009-11-02, 01:13

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O HAI IZ GRATE LOGO lol
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Robo
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2009-11-02, 02:02

*dies*
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drewprops
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2009-11-02, 15:35

you're making baby pirates cry!

I have to tell them that the design they want looks straight out of the 80s, but the 80s were their golden years... I fear that we're going back to the future...

wait, is that PAPYRUS for the links???!!!


GAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!



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709
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2009-11-02, 15:38

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wait, is that PAPYRUS for the links???!!!
Copperplate, Papyrus and Comic Sans all in one place.

Or, as us font geeks like to refer to that: the ninth circle of hell.

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Is it 1981?
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2009-11-02, 16:11

Gimme Comic Sans!

A bookmarklet to, well... you get the idea.
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Bryson
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2009-11-02, 16:14

Awesome link!

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Is it 1981?
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2009-11-02, 16:30

Somehow the Daily Mail and Fox become ever so slightly more credible...


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Unch
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2009-11-02, 16:33

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I have to tell them that the design they want looks straight out of the 80s, but the 80s were their golden years... I fear that we're going back to the future...


Crockett and Tubbs approve of this redesign.
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screensaver400
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2009-11-03, 12:27

On a more serious note, what does everyone use as a "serious" font for academic essays and the like? Some professors absolutely require Times New Roman, which annoys me, but others merely require a traditional serif font.

I like Adobe Jenson Pro and Adobe Caslon Pro a lot. I used to like the various Garamonds a lot, but I've kind of gotten tired of them.

I'm particularly fond of HTF's Requiem, which I got from a friend, but I'm not sure it's appropriate for essays (the Q's tail is quite long, for instance), and for some reason the OTF version he had doesn't produce ligatures automatically (though it has them—they need to be added manually, which is a pain).

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SpecMode
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2009-11-03, 13:16

I'm rather fond of the Myriad family, myself - I find myself using Myriad Set Text a lot for stuff on my machine.

I don't use my Macs for anything work-related, so I pretty much am stuck with whatever the Windows machines in the office have installed when it comes to that. Bleargh.

Tangent: I wonder if Adobe still includes copies of the Myriad Pro and Minion Pro fonts with the latest Adobe Reader installs?
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Robo
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2009-11-03, 15:15

Bembo, Garamond, & Cochin. Probably in that order. I don't really use Times, unless it's required (if the only allowed alternative is Arial, that counts as "required.")

But I use sans fonts, mostly. It saddens me that Gotham and Myriad are becoming cliche.
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2009-11-03, 15:18

I'm a sucker for Hoefler Text.
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2009-11-03, 15:28

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But I use sans fonts, mostly. It saddens me that Gotham and Myriad are becoming cliche.
The Democratic gubernatorial candidate in Virginia (can't for the life of me remember his name...) is using Gotham. His stuff looks almost exactly like Obama's last year.
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Is it 1981?
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2009-11-03, 16:04

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Bembo, Garamond, & Cochin. Probably in that order.

But I use sans fonts, mostly. It saddens me that Gotham and Myriad are becoming cliche.
Bembo and Garamond are SEX. Very true about Gotham and Myriad – Gotham caps look stunning, but I've never been a fan of the lowercase characters.

Helvetica for me, though. Overused, yes, but god does it looks sexy if used well.

Helvetica is my bitch.
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ezkcdude
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2009-11-03, 16:15

The best web font is Verdana. The best font for reading long articles is Times New Roman or Palatino.
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709
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2009-11-03, 16:22

Palatino FTW. It's about as perfect a serif typeface that there is (that's widely distributed).
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billybobsky
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2009-11-05, 01:15

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The best web font is Verdana. The best font for reading long articles is Times New Roman or Palatino.
If by long articles, you mean by slowing readers down, then sure.

Sans serif fonts are better for faster reading; probably because there is more distinction/distance between letters.

I have used comic sans in a science talk recently...

I think I have chosen the font combination for my dissertation: titles, section heads and number in times, body text in arial.

as for those science talks, one wants an informal font -- any suggestions?
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2009-11-05, 01:32

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Sans serif fonts are better for faster reading;
[citation needed]

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I think I have chosen the font combination for my dissertation: titles, section heads and number in times, body text in arial.

as for those science talks, one wants an informal font -- any suggestions?
Arial?

ARIAL‽

Yes, I find the use of Arial even more outrageous than that of Comic Sans. So sue me.
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2009-11-05, 03:31

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ARIAL‽
You really love using that interrobang, don't you?
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2009-11-05, 03:46

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You really love using that interrobang, don't you?
Why yes, glad you asked.
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ezkcdude
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2009-11-05, 06:13

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Arial?

ARIAL‽

Yes, I find the use of Arial even more outrageous than that of Comic Sans. So sue me.
Totally agree. Maybe he's joking.
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2009-11-05, 06:16

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I have used comic sans in a science talk recently...
I used it when I was a first year grad student. Once. The most "informal" font I use these days, and rarely, would be Georgia or Garamond.

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I think I have chosen the font combination for my dissertation: titles, section heads and number in times, body text in arial.

as for those science talks, one wants an informal font -- any suggestions?
I wrote my thesis using LaTex and used the default computer modern font. Now for all my proposals I am using Palatino. I got bored with Times New Roman. I don't know why in the world you would choose Arial unless you want to blind your committee.
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2009-11-05, 07:31

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Totally agree. Maybe he's joking.
Yeah. Made the mistake of reading that just after waking up. It's clearly sarcastic.
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Robo
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2009-11-05, 10:08

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Yes, I find the use of Arial even more outrageous than that of Comic Sans. So sue me.
I do too. Comic Sans is bad because it's cliche, and because it's used inappropriately ("I'll change the font to Comic Sans to make this sexual harassment poster look FUN! Ooh, do they have sexual harassment Screen Beans?"). It could, theoretically, be appropriate sometime. Maybe.

But there is no reason to ever use Arial. Ever. It basically says, "I can't afford Helvetica."

and i guess i've known it all along / the truth is, you have to be soft to be strong
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2009-11-05, 10:43

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I do too. Comic Sans is bad because it's cliche, and because it's used inappropriately ("I'll change the font to Comic Sans to make this sexual harassment poster look FUN! Ooh, do they have sexual harassment Screen Beans?"). It could, theoretically, be appropriate sometime. Maybe.

But there is no reason to ever use Arial. Ever. It basically says, "I can't afford Helvetica."
QFT.
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2009-11-05, 11:21

An oldie but still brings a smile to the designer in me.
Font Conference.
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2009-11-05, 16:08

Oh sweet Lord. I've just seen Comic Sans used in a Scottish Government ran site.

Make it go away!
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