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kscherer
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2019-12-09, 15:48

It does to a point. Most people who suffer from epilepsy know they do and know what triggers seizures, so they don't need to be told (or maybe they prefer to be so they can make wise decisions?)

Those who are more severely disabled and rely on a caregiver don't usually get to make that choice and need an informed person to make it for them. Thus, the warning does serve a useful purpose beyond just CYA. However, I have seen at least one person react to the most basic and otherwise subtle change and we simply learned not to take him to any movies.

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2019-12-09, 16:02

I'm guessing it's pointing to some sort of Sith Lightning sequence, where - wait for it - Palpatine is zapping Rey (because she won't join him) as Kylo stands by his side. Kylo eventually takes pity on Rey, realizes he's become a monster, yells "noooooooo", picks up Palpatine and throws him down a reactor shaft thingie, again, and killing himself in the process. On their way out, he'll ask Rey to help him take off his ultimately pointless emo/poser helmet (unlike Vader's, it provides no life support or enhanced sensory capabilities, so yeah...pointless and poser-y) so he can look on her with his own eyes.*

Because it rhymes.

Or...

Rey, Just Because™, is suddenly, out of nowhere, blessed with Force Lightning abilities herself, and proceeds to take on the entire First Order, Palpatine, Snoke's ghost and whoever else shows up (Maul, bounty hunters, Hutts, Jawas, Greedo's grandson, Dooku's side piece, grouchy bartenders, etc.), single-handedly. And the entire third act of the thing is just her zapping the sauce out of people for about 45 minutes straight.

I can see either one of those scenarios playing out...






*I swear, if they do anything remotely close to that, my eyes will roll completely out of my head and I'll just have to pick them up off the floor, get up and leave. Sadly, you really can't even say the above in a joking/haha way because, deep down, part of you knows there's a solid 50/50 shot that's what J.J. has come up with.
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2019-12-09, 16:05

Hey, you forgot the big family reveal on where Rey came from. It's going to be like a gender reveal but with more lightning.

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2019-12-09, 16:12

At this point, I can't imagine what they'll come up regarding Rey's lineage that isn't either a) the biggest "well, no kidding...the entire planet already assumed this in 2015" letdown in ever, OR b) the Stupidest, Most-Out-Of-Left-Field and Intelligence-Insulting 'Gotcha!' That Has Ever Occurred In Cinematic History™.

Again, with this bunch, I figure it's gotta be one of the two.

The obvious thing - that she's Han and Leia's daughter, sensibly accounting for her Force sensitivity and mechanical/piloting aptitude - apparently just made too much sense.

"No, we gotta Mystery Box it up, and drag it out for three movies!" - J.J.
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2019-12-09, 16:38

Or Luke and Leia's daughter. I mean, you're Force Twins and you never even thought about it?


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kscherer
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2019-12-09, 16:47

If you start inserting lightsaber jokes, I'm locking this thread!




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kscherer
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2019-12-09, 16:49

Aaaaaaaand back to the movie.

Or …

Maybe baby Yoda from The Mandalorian is Yoda's long lost offspring and will show up to avenge his father or grandfather or something and have a dueling lightning battle with Palpatine?

Hey, could happen.

Hmm … maybe I should just merge the two threads and something something something …

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2019-12-09, 17:00

At this point, being the final outing and with the people involved (Abrams, Kennedy, etc.), I can wholeheartedly believe the "hey, could happen" stance. There's no telling what off-the-wall, out-of-nowhere approach they'll attempt with this thing.

If we get out of this movie without time travel, clones, dual-alternate timelines or universes, bad dreams, major fake-outs (Han IS alive - he survived the stab, the fall and the planet exploding! - and he throws Rey his blaster when she needs it most!!), I'll eat my hat.

I don't trust these people...I just don't

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2019-12-09, 17:03

There was a Yoda species female on the council in the prequels. Maybe they were banging green uglies and we just haven't put the two together until now?
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2019-12-09, 17:13

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Hmm … maybe I should just merge the two threads and something something something …
Please no. The Mando thread is staying on topic nicely. This thread is bound to go off on, ahem, tangents.
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2019-12-09, 17:17

Well, all of those things you just mentioned could happen and still follow "canon" or "legends" or whatever Disney wants to call the old stuff.

I mean, my favorite all-time Star Wars character is Ahsoka Tano and the only reason she is "still around" is some time-travel/parallel universe thing.

So those weird ideas have already been inserted. I mean, time travel gives lazy story tellers a way to fix complex problems that should never have been problems. You killed off a popular character and now the fans are angry, so you want that character back? Time travel*! Or maybe you could just realize that you either need to keep the character around, or kill them off for permanently reasons!

I mean, just deal with your story telling already. Please don't Star Trek Star Wars! Time travel has long been established canon within the Star Trek universe, but it was only inserted into Star Wars within the halls of Star Wars Rebels to save an obviously outmatched Tano from the vastly superior Vader. She either should not have been written into the part, or she should have died at the hands of her master (just another reason to hate evil!). To use Time Travel™ is just a lazy way to save a very popular character lazy writer from his/her mistakes.

*Coming soon to a Walking Dead near you!

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2019-12-09, 17:17

Yeah, please keep these threads separate. So far I've not had to hate The Mandalorian, and I'd prefer to confine/limit those particular thoughts and emotions to this thread. Favreau and Filoni seem to be in a different league, and I've yet to have the urge to choke anyone involved with the show. You know, the complete opposite of Episode IX.
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2019-12-09, 17:23

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Please no. The Mando thread is staying on topic nicely. This thread is bound to go off on, ahem, tangents.
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Yeah, please keep these threads separate.
Silly children. I'm not going to merge Teh Awesome with the, um, Wait-And-See-Wasteland, Episode Umpty-Million, Return of the Skywalker-Palpatine Love Child
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2019-12-11, 23:01

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Well this is interesting. If the effects are so over the top that it will trigger seizures then I'm not sure what to think of this one. I'm not epileptic, but that just screams of over-the-top-because-we-can effects.
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Nah, nothing new to see here. That warning is published by every studio any time there are sudden or flashing changes in light. It's a "protect our asses from lawsuits" thing that has been around for years. This is just getting attention because it's Star Wars. Epilepsy is a real thing and the industry knows that their movies can cause issues, so they all warn about it.
So I have an epileptic parent and have been just been evaluated for epilepsy myself. Yes, there are some movies that are warned for just as a CYA. However, Disney tends to only warn for theirs this publicly when it's substantial risk. Note that the Incredibles 2 epilepsy warning happened after public awareness outcry for how significant the scenes there were. So this warning coming out beforehand makes me think it's gonna be more an Incredibles style issue than the other SW movies. And that concerns me, because one of the incidents I had that looked like an absence seizure happened during the red Maw sequence in Solo...so I'm feeling nervy about going. I'm still going, I'm just hissy.

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2019-12-11, 23:14

As someone without epilepsy and zero experience (no friends or relatives afflicted), do you know if a situation is coming on? If you were watching TROS and some flashing or whatever started, do you have time to avert your gaze or close your eyes or whatever, or is the response immediate? In other words, if you see Palpatine raise his hands and some flashing lightning (I'm assuming this is the sort of stuff those warnings are about?) start coming out, is there time to protect yourself from any flashing type effects/stimuli if you do it quick enough? Or is it "once it starts, too late"?

Sorry for a stupid question, but I have no background in this.

I remember a notice posted on the box office window for Cloverfield back in 2008, warning about possible motion sickness/nausea from all the handheld, "amateur" camera footage capturing the event. I think that was the first time I'd ever seen such a notice posted at a movie theater. I kinda went into it a little edgy only because I get car sick like nobody's business (if I'm not driving, I have to sit in the passenger seat and concentrate 100% on the road, otherwise... ). To my surprise, the movie didn't bother me (I actually saw it twice in the theater, with no negative effects). But I do know people who get very queasy/puke-prone at shaky, quick-cut footage in some movies and they always take those warnings seriously (my Dad got sick as a dog during one of those Bourne movies years ago, during some chase/fight sequence; he wasn't right for an hour or two afterwards).
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Yesterday, 12:48

I was thinking about this earlier today and I was just wondering if...

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...based on the frequency in which I see both of these two on commercial breaks lately, I assume Kristen Bell and Anna Kendrick will have roles in Episode IX? Everyone seems to be hiring them, so why would Disney/Lucasfilm be any different? I'd love to get through a day without seeing/hearing either of these dingbats, but it's simply not possible.
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Yesterday, 19:05

I can't talk for everyone, scates. For my mother it's usually too late. For me, I've only had a few suspected ones and I have enough time to tug a hoodie down over my eyes if I need. I've got the ammo in my pocket of an Australian friend who should be seeing it a few hours before me who's promised to text me context clues of where in the movie it'll happen so I can have some prewarn.

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Yesterday, 19:13

That’s good.
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Yesterday, 19:20

It is definitely a good public service to announce these things. Also, there are people out there who are just plain bothered by lots of motion effects and flashy stuff who can take warning that this may not be for them, or to wait until it comes out on DVD so they can watch in a lit room.

My guess is they have an expert watch the film and make the call.

From the trailers, it appears there are lots of dark regions in the movie that likely have blasters and light sabers and force lightning and big BOOM! I have to wait and see, but I don't see hwo that bit is any different from any other SW movie. BUT! It is JJ Abrams, so expect lens flares out the wazoo!

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