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AntaresMP - Dual Core AntaresSP - Single Core And if that's the case... the SP and MP would be available on/around the same time. ETA - 1Q 2005 Dave |
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Ok, lettme guess - (ante up please) a newly designed low power version of the 970 with many special features just for the new powerbook g5? What's your bet? Want any cards? or do you wanna show your hand?  -------- did that other shoe drop? - Michael Droste Itunes Link Stop By: TrumpetStudio.com or SaveThePlanetSong.org Some Main Gear: AT4050, Dual 1.8 G4, Logic, Waves Plat, Waves SSL, Tritone, URS, PSP, Zebra, BFD, RND, Sony Oxford, Altiverb... Last edited by DrGruv : 2004-08-29 at 14:47. |
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Article: http://www.midrangeserver.com/tfh/tf...3-story01.html [midway down the page you'll read] ---- That brings us to Power6 and a related project known as ECLipz. If you want to make IBM stop talking, start talking about ECLipz. A few months ago, I got my hands on some internal roadmaps from IBM about ECLipz, which, according to this documentation, is a Power6-generation project that was started in late 2001. The project name suggests a few things. First, "ipz" obviously refers to iSeries, pSeries, and zSeries, or so one might surmise. "ECL" is a little tougher to crack, but the "E" could be for eServer, the "C" could be for something like Consolidated, and the "L" could be for Linux. I showed this document to some IBM sources, and soon thereafter I got a denial (not attributable to anyone, mind you) that what this document clearly said--that the ECLipz processor, as Power6 was known, would be used across all non-Intel IBM servers--was not true, and that heads rolled because this roadmap said so. I'm not so sure I believe this. But IBM's top brass (including Bill Zeitler, who heads Systems Group) has been quoted in the trade press recently as saying that IBM will maintain distinct platforms for mainframes and other IBM Power-based machines. The roadmap mentioning ECLipz is from sometime in 2003 (date unknown), so it is not that outdated. But for all I know, IBM started this project to consolidate the zSeries line into the Power line and it did not work. This would not be the first time IBM tried this. The Fort Knox and Future Systems projects that tried to consolidate IBM's mainframe and midrange lines decades ago failed, too. This is hard stuff, which is why vendors don't do it. So ECLipz could be alive or dead. Only IBM knows. ---- Hmmm... now this was written back in November 2003 and here we are at the end of summer 2004 and ECLipz pops up again... I'd have to say that ECLipz isn't dead yet. but what does it hold for us?Dave Last edited by DaveGee : 2004-08-30 at 07:10. |
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No need to be a 'dikhed skeptic' (using your words) when it comes to Morph... If he's still bringing up eCLipz there's a good reason for him to do so. Most important, it means said project is very much alive, well and moving forward. The references I've found all seem to point to 2006/2007 for an ETA - Maybe, and I'm just guessing here... Has that ETA has since moved closer to 2005 perhaps even early 2005? This would be welcome news for the Power family but I'm still wondering how it connects together with the PPC family. e = eServer C = ??? (Converge) L = Linux ipz = i p z types of IBM servers. Are lines that are drawn between the 'Power' and 'PowerPC' going to 'thin' or even disappear all together? That would be HUGE news but not possible since (to my layman's eyes) Power = multicore, BIG MAMA CACHE and expensive iron in implementation (as compared to desktop hardware anyway) where PPC has usually equaled single-core (about to change) BABY CACHE and Altivec. Brother M... You know I love-ya but could ya help me out here? Am I getting warm (with the notion that PPC and Power are slowly becoming one) Dave |
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Mentioning eCLipz, Morpheus might have some new info on POWER6. I fail to see the immediate connection between POWER6 and Antares though. |
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 ok, I guess it is time for some ground rules... some know me, most don't... maybe this will help: 1. I'm not regular, here or anywhere. May be here today, may only return next month... questions may be ununswered for a long time or even not answered at all if I decide to ignore them. 2. Don't like the style, move over to other threads, or if you wanna bitch, go ahead, please yourself (see 1.) 3. Just because I hint at something, does not mean that full details will follow. Or they may take a long time to come. That's the nature of the beast. Otherwise I would have to kill you all. Don't like it? See 2. 4. I like to play games. Mind games, not bluffing games. Those that don't, see 2. 5. There is no 5. Morpheus |
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( just casual conversation during the game :smokey: ) with all the 970mp 970gx, 970fx, 970 et. al, what became of the powerpc 980 due q3 of 2004 based on the power 5? My guess, is the 980 got pushed back to next summer with the 970mp coming in early '05. (for me please) I am buying one computer that needs to last many years... Go for a quad 970mp at (guesstimate $3499) or wait for the 980?  Would the 980 be significantly better than the 970mp? The power5 has over 270 million transistors and the powerpc980 perhaps in the 90 million (or more range) The 980mp (dual core) or quad would definitely kick some serious numbers.. Jump in at the 970mp or wait for the 980?  thanx for the advice in advance... -mike (I'll take two cards)  - Michael Droste Itunes Link Stop By: TrumpetStudio.com or SaveThePlanetSong.org Some Main Gear: AT4050, Dual 1.8 G4, Logic, Waves Plat, Waves SSL, Tritone, URS, PSP, Zebra, BFD, RND, Sony Oxford, Altiverb... |
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Moki is the president of a software company which has a bundled software deal with Apple (Deimos Rising on the iMacs, eMacs and iBooks). I'm sure Moki wants to keep on Apple's good side. Notice how Moki never revealed what the GPUL was, making it meaningful only to those already "in the know."
ApplePI turned out to be real. (although Apple changed the acronym to API) DorsalM was a proven hoaxer. (damn) I miss Programmer and Eskimo.  Barto The sky was deep black; Jesus still loved me. I started down the alley, wailing in a ragged bass. |
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