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I don’t believe Apple has a boost mode. They have heterogeneous cores, yes, but I don’t think they temporarily clock a core higher.
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One could argue that using fast (high draw) and slow (low draw) cores kind of is a boost mode of sorts. It basically works the same way. Seems to be a common solution in ARM SOC to deal with demanding tasks, but also reducing power use. I know it isn’t the same, the the active function isn’t too far off.
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Kind of. Intel will soon do that as well, though — Alder Lake will have heterogenous cores, like ARM's big.LITTLE or Apple's Fusion.
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It's one thing to talk about what you're doing, it's another thing to deliver it.
I have no doubt that Intel will deliver. I also have no doubt that Apple will deliver. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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The doom and gloom sayers for Intel are no different than when they were stuck with the Pentium 4/D. AMD Athlon 64 and the G5 PPC were out performing them and it looked bad. Then Conroe (Core Duo... 2006 MBP anyone) came out of nowhere, then the C2D, and then the Core i5/i7 Series launched and put them back on top. Don’t count your geese before they are cooked!
Apple would switch again to something else if it was beneficial, they’ve done it many times. I wouldn’t be surprised if they have iOS and Mac OS running on all kinds of stuff behind closed doors. In 2006 Intel was the way to go, 2020, ARM Apple silicon. 2030? Who knows. |
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Quantum baby!
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Yes, I forgot Core Duo was Yonah, not Conroe, the latter was the name that stuck in my mind though. Intel was really counting on the Atom platform going head to head with ARM. They put a lot into Atom, knowing that low power stuff was the future, but it was a flop. They had no meaningful competition in the x86/x64 space for 10-12 years and now it’s all backfired on them at once. It’s likely why they are investing in SSD and compute GPU spaces.
Indeed, I could see Apple wanting to switch to a totally open source, licence free architecture if the performance was there. RISC has a long way to go, even to catch ARM, but given that it has some big name backers from all over the industry there is potential for sure. turtle, I cannot see quantum computing going main stream, even in ten years. At best it’s a specialty server platform, given the cooling needs. Maybe as a totally cloud based system that uses other traditional hardware as an interface, but not as personal computers. |
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Given the push to make everything SaaS I wouldn't be shocked if that really is the route they go. Why have a computer when "the cloud" can do all the work?
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I can totally see Apple going cloud based. Apple makes more money on the services they provide than hardware, so that would just be the next step. They've already done it will Apple Music, why not the works? Apple want to increase profits, and that's the way to do it.
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If Apple ever goes the cloud-only route, it will be with an EDU-only product like the eMate 300.
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iMac rumors, rumors, rumors. This one supports an Apple-designed GPU.
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