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Brave Ulysses
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2015-04-17, 18:28

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The credit is held in the amount that will be charged. I am not on the hook for the bill until the item ships, but the credit is reserved. That's how my card works...if it is swiped or charged online, the credit is reserved. For example, if I had a $1,000 limit and charged $100 to the card for a product that won't ship for weeks, the card's new credit limit would drop to $900. I would not owe even a minimum payment on that $100 purchase until it was finally charged, but the credit available on the card would be reduced.

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kscherer
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2015-04-17, 18:34

It's called a credit hold, and it happens all the time. This is done as an agreement between the merchant and the card's issuer to ensure that the money will be available come time to ship the product. Otherwise, you might order a custom watch, then max your card out before the watch ships. Then, when the merchant goes to charge the card, it will get declined and the merchant is stuck with the product (not that Apple is going to be "stuck" with the watch, but you get the point).

Whenever I pump gus, as soon as I swipe my card a $100 hold is generated in [state] to insure that there are funds available for the merchant to collect for the product I am dumping into my car. This is done even if I only pump $1 worth of gas. Basically, it's a "good faith credit guarantee in the amount of x".

There is nothing uncommon or strange about it. It's a regular event with credit cards. Since holds disappear once the funds have moved, most people don't even notice.

So, yeah. If you want to order a product 6 weeks in advance, Apple will place a credit hold on your card to guarantee they are going to get paid when they ship your watch. Or you can just wait.

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Messiahtosh
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2015-04-17, 19:52

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It's called a credit hold, and it happens all the time. This is done as an agreement between the merchant and the card's issuer to ensure that the money will be available come time to ship the product. Otherwise, you might order a custom watch, then max your card out before the watch ships. Then, when the merchant goes to charge the card, it will get declined and the merchant is stuck with the product (not that Apple is going to be "stuck" with the watch, but you get the point).

Whenever I pump gus, as soon as I swipe my card a $100 hold is generated in [state] to insure that there are funds available for the merchant to collect for the product I am dumping into my car. This is done even if I only pump $1 worth of gas. Basically, it's a "good faith credit guarantee in the amount of x".

There is nothing uncommon or strange about it. It's a regular event with credit cards. Since holds disappear once the funds have moved, most people don't even notice.

So, yeah. If you want to order a product 6 weeks in advance, Apple will place a credit hold on your card to guarantee they are going to get paid when they ship your watch. Or you can just wait.
I understand, but I guess I'm not into preordering a $750 watch for my wife and a $400 watch for myself, 6 weeks out. I only have one credit card and am not going to hog up the credit on vaporware.

By the way, have you seen the "exclusive" sport band color options unveiled in Milan today? That Navy sport band should be an everyday option!

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Brave Ulysses
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2015-04-17, 20:28

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I understand, but I guess I'm not into preordering a $750 watch for my wife and a $400 watch for myself, 6 weeks out. I only have one credit card and am not going to hog up the credit on vaporware.

By the way, have you seen the "exclusive" sport band color options unveiled in Milan today? That Navy sport band should be an everyday option!
Not really wanting to get into financial situations but I'm surprised that you are looking at spending 1150 on watches yet you don't have a credit limit that could easily absorb that expense.

I'm far from rich, and never carry a credit card balance, but my limits are no where close to be a concern with the purchase of an Apple Watch

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Messiahtosh
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2015-04-17, 22:18

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Not really wanting to get into financial situations but I'm surprised that you are looking at spending 1150 on watches yet you don't have a credit limit that could easily absorb that expense.

I'm far from reach, and never carry a credit card balance, but my limits are no where close to be a concern with the purchase of an Apple Watch
I think credit cards are absurd. My limit is $4600 but I don't like putting much on it. The card is for emergencies as far as I'm concerned and two Apple watches are not emergent, unless I'm really sick. Lol

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2015-04-18, 12:09

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The credit is held in the amount that will be charged. I am not on the hook for the bill until the item ships, but the credit is reserved. That's how my card works...if it is swiped or charged online, the credit is reserved. For example, if I had a $1,000 limit and charged $100 to the card for a product that won't ship for weeks, the card's new credit limit would drop to $900. I would not owe even a minimum payment on that $100 purchase until it was finally charged, but the credit available on the card would be reduced.
Did you actually check to see if your credit limit is lower? Whenever I've had holds at places like hotels or car rentals they show up online. I'm sure Apple would do it if it was a debit card but I've never noticed them doing it on credit cards. I could be wrong of course.

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Whenever I pump gas, as soon as I swipe my card a $100 hold is generated in [state] to insure that there are funds available for the merchant to collect for the product I am dumping into my car. This is done even if I only pump $1 worth of gas. Basically, it's a "good faith credit guarantee in the amount of x".
That's a rather large hold. Here in NJ I am not allowed to pump my own gas so there is never a hold but whenever I am out of state the holds are usually for $1.00. By the way, it's always easy to pick out the people from Jersey (and I assume Oregon) at these places. They are the ones looking dumbfounded and taking forever to fuel up!
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2015-04-18, 12:45

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Did you actually check to see if your credit limit is lower? Whenever I've had holds at places like hotels or car rentals they show up online. I'm sure Apple would do it if it was a debit card but I've never noticed them doing it on credit cards. I could be wrong of course.



That's a rather large hold. Here in NJ I am not allowed to pump my own gas so there is never a hold but whenever I am out of state the holds are usually for $1.00. By the way, it's always easy to pick out the people from Jersey (and I assume Oregon) at these places. They are the ones looking dumbfounded and taking forever to fuel up!
IME the stations that have more travelers than locals are the ones with the large holds. I've rarely seen $100 holds but only at stations in the middle of nowhere. $50 seems common on the interstates out west but all the in-town stations, which are mostly just serving locals, only do a $1.00 hold to make sure the card is valid.

The worst hold I've had was when I rented a car while 22. Avis insisted on a $1000 hold. Fortunately I was on a corporate card so I didn't have a limit but I thought that was a little absurd, especially considering a) that would hardly cover the cost of a replacement car and b) we had a company insurance policy.
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2015-04-18, 16:19

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By the way, it's always easy to pick out the people from Jersey (and I assume Oregon) at these places. They are the ones looking dumbfounded and taking forever to fuel up!
Here in Idaho, we pump our own gas, and I've been through Oregon enough that I know the rules change. On a family trip not long ago, we were driving down highway 95 (Idaho, Oregon, and Nevada) and stopped in McDermitt for gas. The town sits right on the border between Oregon and Nevada (It's literally bisected by the border line). I had never been there before and missed the border sign as we drove into town. I pulled into the gas station and sat at the fuel pump thinking I was still in Oregon. Finally, I went into the store to find out what was taking so long. I bet that lady gives the same look every day! I'm more embarrassed that the casino across the street didn't tip me off than sitting at the pump.

Little did I know!

So, yeah. I know exactly what you're talking about!

Joint has a casino 50 feet south of the border. Yeah, 50 feet!

Looking down with satellite view on, you can see homes where it would be legal to play poker in the back bedroom, but not in the living room!

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Messiahtosh
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2015-04-21, 09:44

Is the blue leather loop band a unisex band? The black leather loop and the dark brown both seem very male, and the light tan seems more feminine. It's hard to say about the blue one. Opinions?

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2015-04-21, 10:05

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Is the blue leather loop band a unisex band? The black leather loop and the dark brown both seem very male, and the light tan seems more feminine. It's hard to say about the blue one. Opinions?
Unisex leaning toward feminine IMO. Wouldn't work for every guy, but it will definitely work for a lot. On the other hand, I think it would work on most women.
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2015-04-21, 10:45

Really? I think it's pretty clear that the leather loop (all colors) is primarily intended for men, and the modern buckle is primarily intended for women — hence why the leather loop is only in 42mm and the modern buckle is only in 38mm, and why they each come in a different hue of otherwise redundant colors (each in a black, a brown, a blue, and "stone"/soft pink). I don't think any of the leather loops look feminine.

Of course, they're all pretty understated, so I wouldn't worry too much about it and just get what you want. (I'm surprised how many men are getting the Milanese loop, which to my eyes is very feminine.) I got the modern buckle, and I would have even if the leather loop were available in 38mm. The modern buckle just looks dressier. And after playing around with it in-store, I think I definitely made the right choice. The leather loop is fine if you want something adjustable and easy but it's not as soft; you can definitely feel the magnets.

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2015-04-21, 11:06

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Really? I think it's pretty clear that the leather loop (all colors) is primarily intended for men, and the modern buckle is primarily intended for women — hence why the leather loop is only in 42mm and the modern buckle is only in 38mm, and why they each come in a different hue of otherwise redundant colors (each in a black, a brown, a blue, and "stone"/soft pink). I don't think any of the leather loops look feminine.

Of course, they're all pretty understated, so I wouldn't worry too much about it and just get what you want. (I'm surprised how many men are getting the Milanese loop, which to my eyes is very feminine.) I got the modern buckle, and I would have even if the leather loop were available in 38mm. The modern buckle just looks dressier. And after playing around with it in-store, I think I definitely made the right choice. The leather loop is fine if you want something adjustable and easy but it's not as soft; you can definitely feel the magnets.
See... now a bunch of tech nerds are talking about fashion and what is feminine or not.... mission accomplished Apple.


FWIW, my opinion should be taken with the finest grain of salt as I have zero style.




On another note....

As the mass release of iOS app updates supporting Apple watch continues I am left wondering how the Apple Watch interface is actually going to handle this. Particularly when it comes to Glances. It seems like the Glances interface is going to very quickly become overwhelmed with Glance sheets. Every app seems to offer one. And it seems like it will become a user curating nightmare to keep on top of which ones you want and which ones you don't. One app may offer a Glance that is most useful as a Glance but very rarely used. But how do you ensure that one rarely used Glance is easily available when you do need it?

Additionally, it seems like the app screen is going to become far more confusing once a user loads most of their third party apps on it. Apple's demos and marketing have really only had Apple's apps and a few chosen developers on the screen at any given time.
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2015-04-21, 11:46

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Really? I think it's pretty clear that the leather loop (all colors) is primarily intended for men, and the modern buckle is primarily intended for women — hence why the leather loop is only in 42mm and the modern buckle is only in 38mm, and why they each come in a different hue of otherwise redundant colors (each in a black, a brown, a blue, and "stone"/soft pink). I don't think any of the leather loops look feminine.

Of course, they're all pretty understated, so I wouldn't worry too much about it and just get what you want. (I'm surprised how many men are getting the Milanese loop, which to my eyes is very feminine.) I got the modern buckle, and I would have even if the leather loop were available in 38mm. The modern buckle just looks dressier. And after playing around with it in-store, I think I definitely made the right choice. The leather loop is fine if you want something adjustable and easy but it's not as soft; you can definitely feel the magnets.
Okay...i'm going with blue leather loop and the pink modern buckle for my wife.
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2015-04-21, 11:53

The design of the leather loop is traditionally masculine. It's bulging, muscular. It's only available in 42mm. Navy is also traditionally masculine. I liked that particular band a lot, though if I ever get one I'd have to get a black one too. Can't wear a blue band with the rest of your penguin suit.

I found the leather loop to be soft-feeling, though the design itself gives it some stiffness. The issue is I can only get a 90% perfect fit around my wrist rather than 100% fit with the Milanese loop. Also Robo, the Milanese loop has always been primarily featured on watches designed for men.

Speaking of case sizes, I've changed my position. The vast majority of people should be buying the 42mm models. It's better proportioned and works better with the more luxurious band options. Wrist size doesn't really matter at all here.

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2015-04-21, 12:01

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See... now a bunch of tech nerds are talking about fashion and what is feminine or not.... mission accomplished Apple.
Contrary to what high school would have you believe, being a tech nerd and knowing fashion aren't mutually exclusive. I don't consider myself particularly stylish (although I do get compliments on my dress sense!), but I do consider myself at least somewhat fashion-literate.

But I think you are onto something, with the divide between tech nerds and fashion. I think there is something very real there (otherwise how would you explain Android Wear?). In geeky circles it's almost a point of pride to say that you aren't fashionable, like that means you're above caring about how you look or something.

I've noticed in the geek world there's a widespread assumption* that fashionable people dress fashionably to impress other people, to flaunt their wealth and "hipness," but in my experience that's not true. All the fashionable people I know make their selections to please themselves, and they don't even really seem to think about what other people might think—they know when they look good. It's like having any other sort of taste, you seek things out that are just appealing to that sense. Being "into" fashion isn't that much different than being into fonts or design, or movies or comic books for that matter. People who are really fashionable are fashion geeks. They're like the rest of us, but they just have more refined, nuanced tastes, in the same way that somebody who's geeky about grindhouse horror movies can tell the difference between each director's oeuvre that might look the same to outsiders.

And then there's that general geek thing about distrusting anything that isn't easily broken down into objective stats. Fashion isn't engineered; it's somewhere between design and art. In this mindset, saying that a steel Apple watch is worth $300 extra because it feels nicer is silly; it has to have some sort of other technical benefit, like more megahertz or gigabytes. But some things are more than the some of their specs, some things can't be broken down and calculated, and when you try to do so you're apt to miss the forest for the trees. Geeks like to think that this objectivity makes them more rational and accurate, unswayed by things like feelings. But this is the same impulse that caused Consumer Reports to declare the Buick Regal the best sport sedan on the market, a conclusion almost nobody actually shopping for a sport sedan seems to agree with.

With this in mind, it's no wonder that there's such tension regarding the Apple Watch. It's not just Linuxy neckbeards who don't get it; I'm sure a lot of people who don't like it are actually died-in-the-wool Apple fans who view it as Apple going off to fashion la-la-land and selling snake oil like $500 bands that just look pretty. Why can't Apple just make computing appliances forever, they wonder. But Apple can't, because they already sell all the computing appliances in the world that make any money. Apple needs to grow elsewhere.

*) This isn't that much different from the common non-gearhead assumption that anyone who buys a fancy car must be showing off. It's a sort of projection; non-gearheads don't appreciate the finer points of performance engineering, so they assume that no one else does either. They have difficulty understanding how a fancy car could actually be worth it to somebody even if nobody ever saw them drive it.

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2015-04-21, 12:13

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Contrary to what high school would have you believe, being a tech nerd and knowing fashion aren't mutually exclusive. I don't consider myself particularly stylish (although I do get compliments on my dress sense!), but I do consider myself at least somewhat fashion-literate.

But I think you are onto something, with the divide between tech nerds and fashion. I think there is something very real there (otherwise how would you explain Android Wear?). In geeky circles it's almost a point of pride to say that you aren't fashionable, like that means you're above caring about how you look or something.

I've noticed in the geek world there's a widespread assumption* that fashionable people dress fashionably to impress other people, to flaunt their wealth and "hipness," but in my experience that's not true. All the fashionable people I know make their selections to please themselves, and they don't even really seem to think about what other people might think—they know when they look good. It's like having any other sort of taste, you seek things out that are just appealing to that sense. Being "into" fashion isn't that much different than being into fonts or design, or movies or comic books for that matter. People who are really fashionable are fashion geeks. They're like the rest of us, but they just have more refined, nuanced tastes, in the same way that somebody who's geeky about grindhouse horror movies can tell the difference between each director's oeuvre that might look the same to outsiders.

And then there's that general geek thing about distrusting anything that isn't easily broken down into objective stats. Fashion isn't engineered; it's somewhere between design and art. In this mindset, saying that a steel Apple watch is worth $300 extra because it feels nicer is silly; it has to have some sort of other technical benefit, like more megahertz or gigabytes. But some things are more than the some of their specs, some things can't be broken down and calculated, and when you try to do so you're apt to miss the forest for the trees. Geeks like to think that this objectivity makes them more rational and accurate, unswayed by things like feelings. But this is the same impulse that caused Consumer Reports to declare the Buick Regal the best sport sedan on the market, a conclusion almost nobody actually shopping for a sport sedan seems to agree with.

With this in mind, it's no wonder that there's such tension regarding the Apple Watch. It's not just Linuxy neckbeards who don't get it; I'm sure a lot of people who don't like it are actually died-in-the-wool Apple fans who view it as Apple going off to fashion la-la-land and selling snake oil like $500 bands that just look pretty. Why can't Apple just make computing appliances forever, they wonder. But Apple can't, because they already sell all the computing appliances in the world that make any money. Apple needs to grow elsewhere.

*) This isn't that much different from the common non-gearhead assumption that anyone who buys a fancy car must be showing off. It's a sort of projection; non-gearheads don't appreciate the finer points of performance engineering, so they assume that no one else does either. They have difficulty understanding how a fancy car could actually be worth it to somebody even if nobody ever saw them drive it.
I agree with this: "All the fashionable people I know make their selections to please themselves, and they don't even really seem to think about what other people might think"

Check out the AskAndyForum for examples of the exact people that you're referring to.

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2015-04-21, 12:27

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Speaking of case sizes, I've changed my position. The vast majority of people should be buying the 42mm models. It's better proportioned and works better with the more luxurious band options. Wrist size doesn't really matter at all here.
I tried both. Better proportioned, I'll give you—they're both equally thick, so the larger model looks a bit more slender when suspended in Jony Ive's white world and magnified a thousand times. The biggest accomplishment with the Apple Watch is that the sizes aren't small and large for a smartwatch, they're just small and large by watch standards (helped a bit of course by the current trend toward larger and larger watch faces in general). Neither looked as bulky as I feared them to be.

That said, I'm still glad I ordered the 38mm. It's not so much that I have tiny girly wrists (although I do) but because of two things: weight and band choice. I'm used to wearing a watch, but my non-dressy daily wear watches are much lighter than the Apple Watch—neither size is heavy enough to be fatiguing or anything but I was a little worried that the weight would be annoying, so I wanted to go with the lighter of the two options. (I actually considered buying a Sport instead, but that case...) Second, the modern buckle is my favorite of the three leather bands by far; the leather loop feels hard and the classic buckle "references traditional watch vocabulary" to the point of boringness.

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Messiahtosh
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2015-04-21, 13:44

By the way, all of these reviews mentioning the watch as the first post-Steve Apple adventure are wrong; Steve started this, too. In one of his keynotes he mentioned how board member Bill Campbell was wearing the iPod nano as a watch...

http://www.zdnet.com/article/your-ne...or-vice-versa/

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2015-04-24, 12:43

Something I thought about today:

On Apple's website, there are videos showcasing the alloys they are using for the Apple Watch. There is one for gold, stainless steel, and aluminium (for you brits ). As Apple doesn't always go into a lot of detail regarding their production techniques, they do like to brag a bit. Bragging about the materials in the Watch gives us some insight into production quality, but I also thought it might accomplish something else.

I have been reading a bit about watch materials, and it seems that every high-end watch manufacturer brags about their own "custom" alloys. While there do appear to be some genuine "custom" alloys, they are all seemingly similar to a certain extent, and no one talks about their own, in-house formulas all that much other than to say "we use x-blend of this and that to create the hardest, most durable alloys". Every watch manufacturer has a marketing tagline pretending that their alloy is teh awesome!

So along comes Apple and the big-time watch makers begin the poo-pooing similar to the phone industry, making all these claims that Apple can't just walk in here and enter this market and compete and blah blah blah. "We have more experience" and "we have better materials" and such.

So along comes Apple and releases these videos playing the same game. "We have this formula and that formula," they say.

It's almost like they're all playing a game of poker and Apple just went all in. The other players have only two choices: 1) Match Apple's bet and call their bluff; or 2) fold.

To match Apple's bet, they must show their own alloys to be superior, which might mean releasing some long-held corporate secrets. To fold would be to admit that Apple's watches are actually made from materials as good as — if not better than — their own custom alloys. Either way, they are forced to legitimize Apple's claims. Either prove their materials are better, or admit they aren't.

I think the watch industry is going to find itself in a bit of a paradox, and I'm not even talking about the Apple Watch's software. I'm only talking about the hardware. The fit and finish seems exceptional and the attention to detail is as robust as any swiss maker (excluding the tiny gears, of course). Truly, the customary swiss makers and Apple cannot be compared in terms of movements. The swiss maker's movements are all miniaturized mechanical masterpieces, while Apple's movement is a revolution in digital miniaturization. However, the thing the movement's sit in (the body) and that silly thing that wraps around your wrist can be compared.

What I'm getting at is that with Apple Watch 1.0, Apple appears to have nailed it in terms of the physical parts of the Watch. Expert craftsmanship, superb attention to detail, materials R&D, etc. And they've done this on a scale no other maker can match.

I'm no expert, but after some reading and video watching, I can't come up with a reason that Apple's watch body and bands aren't as good as anyone else in the industry. The software will need some tweaking, and I'm sure there are minor issues with the hardware, but for a 1.0 product, !

At the end of the day, I think a lot of really nice watches are going to be stuffed into a drawer, replaced by a new really nice watch that does things mechanical watches can't even fantasize about. And those new really nice watches are going to look and feel just as good as the old thing.

That's impressive!

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2015-04-25, 14:08

Would anyone recommend ordering online at this point or waiting to buy in a store?
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2015-04-25, 15:46

If you want it sooner I would think you should order online. I can't imagine it being available in stores before it would ship to new orders. If it does end up in stores first, you can just buy in the store and cancel your online order.

I'm disappointed that mine hasn't shipped yet. I'm not mad or any thing, it is slated for 4/24 - 5/8 delivery. I was just really hoping mine would be here Friday. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to read stuff like the user's guide until it gets here.

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2015-04-27, 02:24

Hi, I do have so much expectations about this Apple watch. I guess, no one will resist about any apple products and probably everyone strongly trust this brand. However, I have read here that its kinda expensive though it is surely worth the price!
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2015-04-29, 09:01

This might help people figure it out: http://9to5mac.com/2015/04/27/a-skep...e-watch-diary/
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2015-04-29, 10:53

So I'm wondering if anyone has gotten their Watch yet or at least a notification that it's shipping? I still haven't heard anything on mine and I'm really looking forward to it getting here.

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2015-04-29, 18:08

I got mine (38mm, steel, black modern buckle) on the 24th.
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2015-04-29, 21:06

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I got mine (38mm, steel, black modern buckle) on the 24th.
What are your impressions?
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2015-04-30, 16:15

Yeah, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. Right after I posted asking about mine I was sent a shipment notification and informed it would be delivered today. It isn't here yet but you can be assured I'm watching the camera feed from my front yard like a hawk!

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Robo
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2015-04-30, 18:27

I'll try to find time to post my thoughts later (Avengers!). I've been tweeting about it as much as I can without feeling like I'm being annoying. Gruber says about everything I'd want to.

The short version: It really is a watch first. Think of it like a "watch plus" or "watch with benefits" and you'll like it. Expect an all-purpose computing platform and you might not. I like watches, so I'm in love with the thing.

Edit: also, Apple Pay is awesome but sort of makes me feel like a tool.

Edit edit: not to say I don't use it like all the time

and i guess i've known it all along / the truth is, you have to be soft to be strong
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drewprops
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2015-04-30, 20:29

Where have you used Apple Pay?


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Robo
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2015-04-30, 20:31

i just used it at mcdonalds to get a milkshake

the drugstore on my corner has apple pay and i'm there all the time because i'm terrible at planning ahead

and i guess i've known it all along / the truth is, you have to be soft to be strong
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