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turtle
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2023-01-17, 13:50

Anyone watching Last of Us? Is it free of sex? I mean, it is HBO so I have assume it is about sex and zombies. Much like Thrones was about sex and dragons, West World about sex and robots.

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Brad
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2023-01-17, 14:20

I haven't started The Last of Us yet, but I was planning to this week. Considering the main characters from the game, unless they deviate pretty substantially from the source material, I can't imagine there's much room for sex and romance. I'll report back on the first episode, but the spoiler-free headlines and memes I've seen so far suggest that it's going to be good.

Character origin story spoiler in case you haven't played the game(s):
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The two lead characters are Joel and Ellie. Joel is a grizzled 40- or 50-something year old man who lost his daughter when the disaster struck 20 years ago. Ellie is a young teen girl, born post-disaster, who is carrying something plot-relevant. Joel effectively adopts Ellie and has a vaguely father-daughter relationship as they journey along to do a thing that might save humanity.

That is an oversimplification, for sure, but hopefully that explains why I doubt there will be sex and romance, at least not between the lead characters.

In other recent shows news, I just finished watching the new Willow series (8 episodes) and it was… fine. I was hoping to scratch the fantasy itch that Rings of Power only tickled. Willow is a nice enough romp through its fantasy world, and I feel like it stayed very true to the original movie. The pace is mostly good, with a couple of exceptions, but the writing quality wavers from good to wtf and back to good again.

Without getting into spoilers, there are some very strange and sudden tonal shifts and several points in the show that feel like plot holes, the writer ran out of time and had to rush something together, or the writing was handed over from one person to another mid-scene and blindfolded. Some of the characters are well written, but sometimes they're clearly "holding the idiot ball" (or "too stupid to live", as my wife calls it) in order to make plot happen more conveniently. I also get the feeling that the writers were leaning too hard into trying to be hip and cool to attract a young preteen/teen demographic. There's some seriously ham-fisted teenage romance angst and clumsy use of modern vernacular, which contrasts starkly against the pseudo-medieval backdrop. The actors all did a great job with the material they were given, though.

If you're just looking for a fun, family-friendly (no sex, just a kiss or two plus some dialog innuendo, and very little visual gore) fantasy romp without any major plot twists, it's a good way to spend about 8 hours. It wasn't terrible. It wasn't great. It was pleasantly entertaining, a decent middle-of-the-road fantasy adventure… much like the original film, now that I think about it.

edit: Oh! And importantly: it actually resolves the main plot thread by the end. There is a final scene to tease more for another season (not yet in development), but the conclusion is satisfying enough for me if that was all we got.

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2023-01-18, 19:28

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I haven't started The Last of Us yet, but I was planning to this week. Considering the main characters from the game, unless they deviate pretty substantially from the source material, I can't imagine there's much room for sex and romance. I'll report back on the first episode, but the spoiler-free headlines and memes I've seen so far suggest that it's going to be good.
I couldn't wait! I watched the first episode, and it was very good. I hope the rest of the series holds up as well.

And there were no HBO-mandated sexy times, either!

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2023-01-19, 10:10

Yay! Thanks Brad. My older kids are looking forward to seeing The Last of Us and I just didn't want to be blindsided by sex with them like I was with Westworld.

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2023-01-31, 22:31

I didn't intend to report in with episode-by-episode progress, but, damn. I did not expect The Last of Us to be so heart-wrenching. I figured we'd be getting a by-the-books zombie show. Episodes 1 and 2 were already pretty strong, but episode 3 took a slight detour and brought out some very bittersweet emotions. Its plot deviates a bit from the game, for those who have played it and care about that kind of thing, but it does so in a clever way that has a stronger emotional impact on the audience and possibly the protagonist.

Here's how Craig Mazin (writer/co-creator of the show) described his episode 3 idea to Neil Druckmann (writer/creative director of the games, and writer/co-creator of the show), heavily edited by me to avoid spoilers:
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I thought that maybe, since we could disconnect (spoiler) from Joel and Ellie, in terms of gameplay, we could expand on (spoiler), and maybe give it a slightly different, or actually a radically different, ending. That is when I pick up the phone and say, “Neil, I’ve got a radical idea. (spoiler…)”

So, I wrote it all, I sent it to Neil, and I was like, “Uh.” And he was like, “This is my new favorite.” And I was like, “Phew.” And that’s a credit to him. I completely wandered way off the reservation there, and he loved it."
Much like with Andor, I have been thoroughly impressed and pleasantly surprised by The Last of Us. Six more episodes from now through March 12th? Not sure if I prefer to watch it spread over two months or if I'd rather wait and binge it all, but it's too late for me now!

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turtle
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2023-02-01, 08:43

I'm looking forward to watching this series actually. I'm gonna let you watch it first though them go through them all at once I think. Maybe not one sitting, but one an evening or something. I'm really holding out so I don't get side doored by sex scenes in it because my teenagers want to watch it with me.

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2023-02-01, 10:09

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Six more episodes from now through March 12th? Not sure if I prefer to watch it spread over two months or if I'd rather wait and binge it all, but it's too late for me now!
I'm trying to wait until they're all up, but it's getting such hype I might have to give in. Maybe a 3/3/3 watch I could pull off.

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I'm really holding out so I don't get side doored by sex scenes in it because my teenagers want to watch it with me.
C'mon T. It's not porn, it's HBO.

So it goes.
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2023-02-01, 10:13

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That right there is exactly what I'm wanting to avoid! Thank you for sharing that video. I'm going to send that link to people.
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Brad
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2023-02-01, 23:21

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Genius.

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I'm really holding out so I don't get side doored by sex scenes in it because my teenagers want to watch it with me.
Since you're on the lookout, I'll give a heads-up about any salacious content. Using spoiler tags for people who want to enjoy the show going in cold. The spoiler-free summary is that I'm pretty sure you still have nothing to worry about.

Episode 2 has
Spoiler (click to toggle):
a brief scene with a nude corpse of a middle-aged woman on a medical/autopsy examining table, but it's entirely clinical and not at all titillating or objectifying. I'd even wager that the actor was chosen to be especially average so not to give any viewers the wrong impression here.

Episode 3 almost kind of technically has
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a sex scene, maybe? We see the first minute of a couple beginning to engage, if you catch my drift, but the scene cuts away before any real action happens, and what you do see on-screen would barely muster a PG-13 rating and could easily be aired on prime time broadcast TV. I think you might get a couple seconds of heavy breathing. Egads! No actual naughty bits are to be seen, though!

At most, I would imaging a teen in the room raising an eyebrow and smirking or making a brief sophomoric chuckle just long enough to be thoroughly disappointed that nothing exciting is actually coming up.

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2023-02-02, 10:32

Thank you!
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