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Great post Rock... good information is what this debate needs, and you're trumping the uh, cynics' arguments (no pun intended) pretty well. The volcanism bit and "oh btw Mr. skewed statistics gets funding from Exxon" are good examples. It's amazing to me how consistently the scientists who are nay-sayers, all have relation to or some funding from a giant oil or energy company. It's uncanny and frankly a little surprising. I thought I would at least read about a small group of scientists who had no ties to big energy companies but so far I have not encountered such a group in my readings. Every single scientist who says "it's a myth" or "it's out of our control, we have no effect" -that I've seen- has ties to big energy companies.
I mean frankly, if I were a scientist, knowing how important impartiality is, and my workgroup was funded by a big oil company, I would simply remove myself from the running in that field because how could anyone who doesn't know me personally, not question my motives? It's like a lawyer recusing themselves from a trial. They may in fact have no ill motive, but the mere connection they have to the case that could lead a person to logically question their motives, is enough. These scientists who have access to energy company funding, should recuse themselves and/or be very up front in every public rebuttal they make, that their working group or whatever, gets funding from oil / energy companies. ...into the light of a dark black night. |
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Well we're due for our first snow since early Decemeber, this weekend... good news for farmers if it actually materiliazes, but whatever it ends up being, we'll still be way below avg.
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Light wintry mix this weekend with temps around 35ºF. Some snow showers and highs in the teens next week!
I just left a foot of snow in Syracuse, there had better be some here soon. Formerly known as cynical_rock censeo tentatio victum There is no snooze button on a cat. |
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Yep. We had the european equivalent of a hurricane today. The strongest storm in 4 years in mid-winter (this is not normal . The strongest gusts were over 130 km/h which is pretty exceptional over here.
In Holland al train traffic was suspended and despite warnings we had a total of over 400 km of traffic jams. Most people were sent home early by their employers (me included). When I came home, I found one of my windows blown out. I work in a very modern 15 storey building. On the upper floors one could easily feel the wind moving the entire building. |
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Join Date: May 2005
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Quite mad weather: the highest winds in the UK since 1990. Winds were gusting to 99 mph (159 km/hr) in some places, and almost 80 mph in London. Emergency service sirens battled with the shrieking wind for supremacy all day. My street (I live on a hill in East London) looks like a war zone: debris everywhere, bins in the middle of the road, bits of roofing and signposts leaning against cars.
I guess this was a particularly severe European windstorm. … engrossed in such factional acts as dreaming different dreams. |
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Join Date: May 2004
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Car crashes on icy streets. I wanted to find a clip of that one car on the news last night, that just kept sliding and crashing into cars, streetlights, more cars... just endlessly. Omg! It was pretty effing incredible! The news kept replaying it over and over... because no one could believe what they were seeing.
But this is what I found - with a few people desperately hanging out of their car, digging their heels in, trying to keep the crash from happening... http://video.google.com/videoplay?do... on+ice&hl=en Cop car crash in bad weather. Yikes!!! http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...s+on+ice&hl=en Okay, this looks like part of what I was looking for: http://youtube.com/watch?v=fL1eh9FbnKw |
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How about this one:
Current temperature: 23ºF 24 hour temperature shift: +30ºF! OMG!!!!1!!! TEH GLOBLE WArMINg!!!11! |
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More... from BBC
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Not just about temperature and melting ice, but the re-distribution of seasonal precipitation patterns in various parts of the world... of course any one of them could be pointed to as an aberration. But once you start collecting enough aberrations in a short time period, one begins to wonder. Note to self: scratch any vacation plans to Australia in the near future. ...into the light of a dark black night. |
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So, you're saying I should buy stocks in snakebite kit industry?
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I didn't know there was a snakebite kit industry, but if you're going to watch the Thunder down Under, at least buy a kit.
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I am constantly amazed at the number of people in this country who somehow get the concept that they cannot walk safely on ice, but who nonetheless try to drive on ice. Every time I see something like this -especially in places other than the deep south, where I expect people to drive like numbskulls when it's icy or snowy- I want to stamp a big "WTF is wrong with me?" on their forehead. YOU CAN'T DRIVE ON ICE. ICE ≠ SNOW! HAVING 4WD DOESN'T HELP. DON'T TRY TO DRIVE ON ICE, OR YOU WILL DAMAGE YOUR CAR AND PROBABLY WORSE. SLEEP AT THE OFFICE IF YOU HAVE TO, PHOTOCOPY YOUR BUTT AND HAVE FUN, BUT DON'T DRIVE! This concludes today's PSA. ...into the light of a dark black night. |
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Ruling teh World
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... Unless you have one of these bad boys:
Oh yeah! (Note my Apple Sticker) |
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Yeah, I can kick snows ass with my Trooper, as long as it's in it's version of 4WD, because if it's not, I have about as much control as I would after driving it off of a cliff. I am not too confident in it's ability to control on a surface with super low friction
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Eats snow for breakfast ^ ... ice... if you go like 3 mph, and there are no hills, maybe. SUVs? Not so much. ...into the light of a dark black night. |
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It Is Finally Snowing Here!!!!!!!!!
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It's picked up in intensity over the last hour here. Should be a fun game. Not looking forward to driving though. There's always some idiot who isn't paying attention / spinning his wheels in the middle of an intersection. Which brings me to today's PSA:
IF YOU'RE DRIVING ON SNOW-COVERED ROADS, EVEN WITH AN UBER-4WD VEHICLE, ACCELERATE *SLOWLY*, AND BREAK *EARLY* AND *SLOWLY* WHEN YOU COME TO A STOP SIGN. SLAMMING ACCELERATOR / BREAK PEDAL IN SNOW = NOT TEH WIN. Thank you, that is all. ...into the light of a dark black night. |
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We got our first snow of the winter overnight. I walked for a bit earlier, and it looks like we got about four inches total at the most. It looks very pretty, but the roads are kind of a mess, which brings me to...
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I have a "Winter" button on my car, do any of any of YOU?
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My ever-so-accurate thermometer is reading 2.3°F (-16.5°C) outside my window right now. Wind chill tonight is supposed to reach -10-20°F.
Dear School District, Snow day tomorrow. plzthx Love, abb You ask me for a hamburger. |
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: New York
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Yep, right now, 2 degrees F outside (feels like -13F).
Not cool. I have to wear a stupid suit tomorrow for a 9AM presentation and it's going to be a cold ass walk through campus. |
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