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drewprops
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2020-10-30, 02:25

In that I have decided to wait another year to upgrade, I am not now collecting the current crop of iPhone 13 rumors here.

- top end memory goes to 1TB
- new Apple modem
- 120Hz refresh rate for screen
- fingerprint reader returns
- portless device


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kscherer
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2020-10-30, 10:39

- A15 will read your thoughts …

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Brave Ulysses
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2020-10-30, 13:23

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Originally Posted by drewprops View Post
In that I have decided to wait another year to upgrade, I am not now collecting the current crop of iPhone 13 rumors here.

- top end memory goes to 1TB
- new Apple modem
- 120Hz refresh rate for screen
- fingerprint reader returns
- portless device


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Think that is it.
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709
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2020-10-30, 17:40

There was some bit about the notch being smaller, but that's been a rumor every year since the X.
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kscherer
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2020-10-30, 17:47

I've gotten so used to the notch that I don't eve care anymore.
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drewprops
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2020-10-30, 19:07

I could not care one bit less about a notch. That is an industry-driven non-story kept alive by a bunch of prolls who have nothing, and I mean NOTHING, better to talk about.

That memory, and the promise of a fingerprint reader have captivated my attention.

GREY I AM NOT CALLING YOU OUT.

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709
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2020-10-30, 21:33

WELL YOU SHOULD BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME I AM FULL OF SHIT.


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That said, I was a bit miffed that the iPad Air got that nifty fingerprint reader and the iPhone didn't. Sure, maybe space issues yada yada, but still. Would've been perfect to have both options.

So it goes.
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drewprops
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2020-10-30, 23:15

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WELL YOU SHOULD BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME I AM FULL OF SHIT.


I’m just wondering if I can limp by with my 7 Plus for one more year. Because these 13 rumors describe my wants.


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2020-10-31, 07:18

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There was some bit about the notch being smaller, but that's been a rumor every year since the X.
It comes down to how much they can shrink the sensor array. And, if they can, how much they don't want to add further sensors. A front-facing LiDAR, say.

(OTOH, a good front-facing LiDAR might replace the need for the infrared camera, flood illuminator, proximity sensor, and dot projector!)

I don't understand what a smaller notch buys us, though. Either they make it that much smaller that it can just spread across the entire screen, bringing back a bezel, the way they did on the iPad Pro (but I don't think they want to do that, because the current notch is an iconic design). Or they… make it thinner and/or shorter, and… for what?

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an industry-driven non-story kept alive by a bunch of prolls who have nothing, and I mean NOTHING, better to talk about.
Yup. For the most part, I don't notice the notch at all. It looks a bit silly in landscape video, but that's about it.

Pundits gonna pundit.
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drewprops
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2020-10-31, 09:44

New thought: will Apple get superstitious about the number 13 and change the way they refer to these devices? I've never considered how a company might approach naming and numbering conventions to accommodate cultural pitfalls.


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PB PM
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2020-10-31, 10:41

Apple never worried about 13 with Mac OS or iOS, why worry about it with the phone name?

Of course the simple thing to do is switch to letters and drop the number all together. Each is simply followed by model year of introduction.

iPhone A & iPhone A+ (Replaces Pro & Max) 2021
iPhone B (Replaces the 12) 2021
iPhone M (Replaces 12 Mini) 2021
iPhone SE (continues with current name) 2021

Simple, and easy to remember, and having the model year attached makes it easy identify the generation.
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drewprops
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2020-10-31, 12:54

They probably won't worry about it, but it probably IS a consideration. I know that in China certain numbers are associated with luck, and when you're trying to sell a widget every little thing counts.

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2020-11-28, 08:15

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2020-11-28, 11:46

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Of course the simple thing to do is switch to letters and drop the number all together. Each is simply followed by model year of introduction.

iPhone A & iPhone A+ (Replaces Pro & Max) 2021
iPhone B (Replaces the 12) 2021
iPhone M (Replaces 12 Mini) 2021
iPhone SE (continues with current name) 2021

Simple, and easy to remember, and having the model year attached makes it easy identify the generation.
Why those letters at all, though?

The 2021 iPhone Pro / Pro Max
The 2021 iPhone
The 2021 iPhone mini
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drewprops
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2020-11-28, 14:48

While using the release year is cleaner, it introduces a marketing challenge... will it prompt consumers to be more or less apt to upgrade?

By attaching the year model to the product it reminds the user of the age of the machine for better or worse.

While I *feel* as if my iPhone 7 is 5 or 6 years old, in truth it's only 4 years old.

Knowing that it's still working at 4 years old (by having looked it up), I can decide to limp along for another year.

If it was just a number or a model name, reason is replaced with a dash more of desire.

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2020-11-28, 15:35

Definitely, but that stops working at some point. We likely won't have an iPhone 23.
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Yesterday, 00:45

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Why those letters at all, though?

The 2021 iPhone Pro / Pro Max
The 2021 iPhone
The 2021 iPhone mini
It's like marks on a test, A is best, etc. I just don't buy into the Pro/Max/Mini titles, but I suppose it works. It would be even better if Apple dropped the "iPhone" name altogether, and lines it up with the watch.

Apple Phone Max 2021
Apple Phone Pro 2021
Apple Phone 2021,
Apple Phone Mini 2021
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Yesterday, 05:33

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I am hoping the new iPhone 13 is made from Toledo steel.
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pscates2.0
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Yesterday, 16:49

I sometimes like to imagine what Steve would think about the iPhone at this point.

Did he ever expect them to get this popular and change the landscape so much? He hinted at it on that 2007 introduction at MWSF, so I think he might've believed they were truly on to something. But he died in October 2011, the day before the 4s was unveiled. Which means he was never around for the taller 5 models and all that came after.

I'd love to know his thoughts on it all - all the new (and larger) sizes, the pricepoints (especially the $999+ stuff), the cameras they have, etc.

Would he have imagined the accessory and add-on markets, and the presence of these phones everywhere, including all throughout entertainment in a way even the Mac never fully enjoyed, and just everything they've come to represent?

It's a shame he wasn't around to experience that explosion for a few more years. It's a shame he's not around, period, but he got robbed on the iPhone/iPad thing, only getting four years and under two years, respectively, in a world where they existed. He missed the true explosion/growth/acceptance since 2012 and the 5/5s (that's when I started seeing them everywhere, even in the hands of people like my Dad and his old fart friends who spent years poo-poohing them and saying they'd "never own one".

Yeah, bullshit...they've owned nothing but, since.

Naming-wise, there's no telling what Steve would've pushed for. Honestly, I think he would've dug around and come up with some more cat names for the Mac. "We're not done yet...I've got this Cats of the World coffee table book. Let's see what we can find...".
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Steve walks onto the stage. "I'd like to introduce Mac OSX Aegean. Yes, it's named after a Greek cat bread, get over it, it's awesome." Following year, Mac OSX Kinkalow.
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